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Ian
The sisters you refer to were they the ones that used to have the farm below the Partons hotel? I see recently there was a Sue Parton posting, was she any relation to Sue and Peter that used to run the Lake View hotel on the way down to Mpulungu and if not does anyone know where Sue and Peter finished up I will never forget her parrot it used to call all the staff stupid bastards as I remember she had to leave on very short notice and her parrot was deported with her bless her I would love to hear from them again. Regards Johnny.
Ps you have made a mistake with your spelling!.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 10:21:11 (PDT)
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PS
I should have made clear that it was Marian Gamwell who undertook the journey.
Ian
Ian Singer — Click here to contact me
Livingston, Scotland
Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 09:45:06 (PDT)
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Hi All
This is likely to be of interest to those who may be familiar with the Gamwell sisters of Abercorn (Mbala). Personally I don't know anyone who would have dared!
Both sisters were members of the FANY (Johnny - behave yourself!) - First Aid Nursing Yeomanry in WW1 and drove ambulances. In WW2 they both left their farm near Abercorn and took up senior positions in the FANY - Marian Gamwell as the Commandant. The FANY still exists and are building up a website on which I found an account of a 34 day journey overland from Damascus to Delhi.
http://fany.org.uk/html/cairo_to_delhi.html
Regards Ian
Ian Singer — Click here to contact me
Livingston, Scotland
Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 09:43:24 (PDT)
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Images on the "other" server
I seem to have sown confusion amongst the troops. Although the GNR images are now split between two physical servers, the integration is seamless and you don't need to go looking for them elsewhere. Every image available to you is linked through www.greatnorthroad.org or www.northernrhodesia.org.
In actual fact, it is only the images from previous months' message boards that have been archived on a different server. So, if you've been here a while you've already seen those pictures. If you want to see them again, they are still there -- you just have to browse the archives to see them.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 09:13:43 (PDT)
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Help,I'm trying to locate Lucille Cook nee Ball. I received one message from her, but lost her e-mail address when my computer went "Kaput" If anybody knows the where abouts of Lucille, PLEASE, ASK HER TO EMAIL ME.I would so much like to talk to her, & also about her husband Charlie.Thankyou so very much, have a happy day & KEEP SMILING. ----Jim Cash
Jim Cash — Click here to contact me
Btitish Columbia, Canada
Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 06:40:13 (PDT)
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I dont know whether this works all over the world but if it does it is worth trying, my Vodaphone put up 23 numbers when i put the code in but I suppose it will serve the same purpose this info came from SA.
THIS IS SOMETHING REALLY WORTH KNOWING!!!
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> To check your cellular phone's serial number, key in the
> following
> on
> your phone : star hash zero six hash as (*#06#)
> A 15-digit code will appear on the screen. This number is
> unique
> to
> your handset.
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> Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. Should your phone
> be
> stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them
> this
> code.
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> They in turn, will then be able to block your handset, so
> that
> even
> if
> the thief changes the Sim card, your phone will be totally
> useless.
> You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you
> know
> that
> whoever stole it, can't use/sell it either.
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> If everybody did this, there would be no point in stealing
> mobile
> phones anymore.
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> Send this to as many people with mobiles as possible, and
> let's
> make
> the
> thieves lives even more frustrating.
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john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 22:51:59 (PDT)
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Douggie Waybrush Quite an interesting piece about Graham Mason but all became rational to the mind when it stated he was educated in CHINGOLA as I think that at the time it was the drinking capital of the world with more beers per head consumed than any where else in the world, his sad mistake was I note drinking vodka, if he had stuck to whisky and kafue water or any water he would in all probability be still alive today like me, a lesson to be learned here for all the apprentice drinkers about to embark on there careers.
Regards Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 22:31:44 (PDT)
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A funny obit. from the Daily Telegraph . And Germaine when you read through it :
GRAHAM MASON, the journalist who has died aged 59, was in the 1980s the drunkest man in the Coach and Horses, the pub in Soho where, in the half century after the Second World War, a tragicomedy was played out nightly by its regulars.
His claim to a title in bibulous misbehaviour was staked against stiff competition from Jeffrey Bernard and a dedicated cast of less celebrated but formidable drinkers. Mason was a fearsome sight at his most drunkenly irascible. Seated at the bar, his thin shanks wrapped around the legs of a high stool, he would swivel his reptilian stare round behind him to any unfortunate stranger attempting to be served, and snap: "Who the f-- are you?" Sometimes this prompted a reaction, and on one occasion a powerful blow to the head sent Mason flying, with his stool, across the carpet. Painfully clawing himself upright, he set the stool in its place, reseated himself and, twisting his head round again, growled: "Don't you ever do that again."
Unlike his friend Jeffrey Bernard, though, Graham Mason did not make himself the hero of his own tragedy. His speciality was the extreme. In one drinking binge he went for nine days without food. At the height of his consumption, before he was frightened by epileptic fits into cutting back, he was managing two bottles of vodka a day. His face became in his own description that of a "rotten choirboy". At lunchtime he would walk through the door of the Coach and Horses still trembling with hangover, his nose and ears blue whatever the weather. On one cold day he complained of the noise that the snow made as it landed on his bald head.
His practice of "boozer's economics" meant dressing in the shabbiest of clothes, many of them inherited from the late husband of the woman with whom he lived. He wore a threadbare duffel coat with broken toggles. One day it was inexplicably stolen from the pub coathook. Jeffrey Bernard took the opportunity to combine kindness with condescension by buying a replacement of much grander design and cloth.
From the 1960s on, Mason was a friend of many of the painters as well as the writers, actors, layabouts, retired prostitutes, stagehands and hopeless cases that then gave Soho its flavour. He enjoyed talking to Francis Bacon in the Colony Room Club because Francis Bacon was very funny; and, until they finally had a row, Francis Bacon enjoyed talking to him.
Mason had a gift for contriving very telling nicknames. A failed actress who rode a bicycle and was addicted to tittle-tattle became "The Village Postmistress". Gordon Smith, a stage-door keeper of fussy temperament, was "Granny Gordon". One barman was "Princess Michael".
In a couple of hours one evening in February 1988 he had loud altercations with John Hurt ("You're just a bad actor"); with a law writer nicknamed The Red Baron, who was later murdered ("You know I don't like you. Go away and leave me alone."); and with Jeffrey Bernard (who stood up and shook him by the lapels). Michael Heath often featured Mason in his strip-cartoon The Regulars. In one episode he is shown apologising for being so rude the night before: "You see, I was sober."
Amid the violence of Soho arguments he became a friend of Elizabeth Smart, the Canadian author of By Grand Central Station I Sat Down and Wept, a book about her lover George Barker, the poet, who became another friend. Mason succeeded in liking Francis Bacon's final close friend, John Edwards, which some people did not; and the poet John Heath-Stubbs took a shine to him.
One of his first friends in Soho was John Deakin, the photographer, whom he defended against the charge, put about by Daniel Farson, of being cruel to everyone. "The only man John Deakin was unkind to was David Archer," Mason asserted. David Archer, who ran a bookshop at a loss, was the man Deakin lived with.
Mason felt at home in the Colony in the years before homosexuality was decriminalised because no one minded one way or the other.
Mason's own closest friendship was with Marsh Dunbar, the widow of an admired art director at The Economist. He lodged with her at first in a fine early-19th-century house in Canonbury Square, Islington, where she was bringing up three sons. She had herself fallen into Soho after the War, knowing everyone from John Minton to Lucian Freud. Though enthusiastically heterosexual, she lived with Mason until her death.
In the days before licensing liberalisation, he resorted in the afternoon when pubs were closed to drinking clubs such as the Kismet, a damp basement with a smell that wits identified as "failure"; it was known as The Iron Lung and Death in the Afternoon. Mason admired the diminutive but firm presence behind the bar, known as Maltese Mary. But his favourite resort remained the Colony.
Graham Edward Mason was born on July 19 1942 in Cape Town, South Africa. He had been conceived on a sand dune, and to this, as a devotee of Laurence Sterne's Tristram Shandy, he sometimes attributed his abrasive character. He was educated at Chingola, Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia), and then joined a local newspaper. From there, as a bright and promising 18-year-old, he was recruited for the American news agency UPI by its bureau chief in Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia (now Harare, Zimbabwe).
He learned fast as a reporter of the civil war in Congo, finding the veterans from the Algerian war among his colleagues both kind and helpful. He witnessed a line of prisoners executed with pistol shots to the head, and was himself injured in the thigh and chin by a mortar shell. Among those he interviewed in a Rhodesia moving towards UDI were Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe; he did not take to the latter.
Posted to the UPI office in London in 1963, he set off in a Land Rover with three friends and no proper map, through Tanganyika, Kenya, Ethiopia and Sudan to Port Sudan on the Red Sea, and thence on an East German ship via Trieste to Hull.
From UPI's London office in Bouverie Street, Mason soon discovered Soho, and, like many before him, felt he had come home. He continued as a foreign correspondent, taking a year out in 1968 to work for 20th-Century Fox on feature films, which he hated. With BBC Television News he reported from the Northern Ireland troubles, and in 1975 took another year out to run a bar in Nicosia. It happened to coincide with civil war, and he and Marsh Dunbar were lucky to be evacuated by the RAF. From then until 1980 he worked for ITN. One day he was found asleep under his desk, drunk. It was something of a low point.
He was living with Marsh Dunbar in a flat in Berwick Street, Soho. A fire there sent them, fleeing bills, to a run-down council tower-block on the Isle of Dogs. The compensation was a view of a sweep of the Thames towards Greenwich. He worked while he still could managing Bobby Hunt's photographic library.
Graham Mason cooked Mediterranean food well, liked Piero della Francesca and Fidelio, choral evensong on the Third Programme and fireworks. After Marsh Dunbar's death in 2001, with almost all his friends dead, he sat imprisoned by emphysema in his flat, with a cylinder of oxygen by his armchair and bottles of white wine by his elbow, looking out over the Thames, still very angry.
Reprinted in the entirety. Thank you to the Daily Telegraph.
Doug
Douggie Waybush — Click here to contact me
London
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 16:30:22 (PDT)
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WANTED
I`ve been let down by my SUDSA maker and if I make it , it`ll look more like porridge than sudsa. So I need a volunteer to make the SUDSA. The condition is that you must be fully qualified and be prepared to take any abuse if it anything less than perfect.
Also.
Will all attendees please do a rain dance in reverse. ( bloody British weather).
See you all on Saturday.
The LION tastes wonderful.
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 08:22:00 (PDT)
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Sheesh! I still have the use of my right arm at the moment, and all I see are typo's in my message below. Read "bagen" as "began", and "in" as "is"...
Linda Moult — Click here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 08:11:29 (PDT)
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Now I KNOW that the world in overrun by ex-NR/Z'ians! I was at my favourite coffee shop today, and bagen chatting to my neighbour at the table next to me... turns out he's from Kitwe! Grief!, these Zambians are really everywhere!
Anyone remember Robbie Pace?
Of course I told him about the GNR site, and he's more than likely, going to see this message - so hiya Robbie. I'll be in touch.
Linda Moult — Click here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 08:08:05 (PDT)
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To the voice from beyond if I keep the lights on in my hotel bedroom it will be for me to see what I am getting not what is getting me. love Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Monday, April 29, 2002 at 03:12:06 (PDT)
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Craig and Heather
Finally!!! I can access the photos from this month. Whatever you did, Craig, it has worked. Heather, the photos are fantastic! And anyone else who submitted photos, thanks very much.
Kevin Shone and Viv Raubenheimer
I know you two are out on the town in Ndola. Keep him in line, Kevin. And I'm still waiting for my ticket to come and work at the Lodge, Viv???
There is a noted absence of Moi Moo Five Cows these days?? No doubt you are building up your strength...
Has anyone heard how Miles and Sue Parton are doing since their move to Cape Town?
Bwana Grins
I have a message for you, from beyond. I am supposed to tell you that you should be alone in the hotel both nights or you will be haunted by an apparition in red who is quite a tap dancer herself. I would recommend sleeping with the lights on, myself. At least that way you will see what gets you... He! He!
Have a great week, all.
Linda (Dore) Hayes
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 20:31:44 (PDT)
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To the very kind person who sent me an em with Brian Joyce's em address thanks ever so much unfortunately I emailed him and it was sent back user unknown could you perhaps seeing you are in contact with him ask him to email me sorry about using the message board as a go between, but at this stage its the only way because unfortunately I deleted the message I received from the very kind person! Love and Hugs to all on the board Irene White (Barnard)
Irene White — Click here to contact me
Fergus,Ontario, Canada
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 12:13:07 (PDT)
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DES KENNY,
Des in the instructions that you posted on how to get to the hotel, you state that Leasowe Road is the first exit off the road that is the first exit off the roundabout at the bottom of the slip road from junction 1. But you dont say if this exit onto Leasowe road is to the left or the right?
please advize.
Thank you,
barribee.
Barrie Braidford — Click here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 10:34:42 (PDT)
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Linda
Good luck on your wing clipping for Tuesday, ..all the best..
oh and by the way I reiterate with Tina those magazines were tremendous..Leah just loves the horse magazine in fact has snaffled it...oh and I can tell you it is really looked after.treats it like it was gold ...
take care
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 09:15:49 (PDT)
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Dawie:
I know you are only 52, but I said 53 because it worked with my limerick. Luv ya!
Linda (Dore) Hayes
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 07:52:47 (PDT)
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Johnny & Doug
Thank you both for the best wishes for my wing clipping on Tuesday. This is really not going to be fun this time, as being my right arm (yup, I'm right-handed) I am not going to be of much use. Will HAVE to have husband do absolutely everything for me!!
Tina
Yes, me, my wing, and my Rhodesian Ridgebacks... Thanks for the wishes.
I am so glad you finally received the mags et al. We love doing them and passing on information, and teaching fellow Africans. HQ - Horse Quarterly - is wonderful to do, as I am simply nuts about horses. But then I am nuts about any animal for that matter. I managed to rescue a small snake yesterday from our gardeners who were about to kill it! They were simply amazed when I just reached down and picked it up - must be the Zambian upbringing I had... However, I do know my snakes, and I put this particular one near our dam amongst some shrubbery and 'tanning' rocks.
Ridgebacks' eyes? ... They are the best, and so full of character. They tell you whole stories just by looking into them! Enjoy the mags etc. And yes, we do overseas subscriptions... Speak to me - anyone on the GNR - and I will get you a good rate seeing that I have inroads and obvious "connections" to our magazines!"
Dawie
Great Birthday Dude! Ride those bikes sober now, you hear!
Linda Moult — Click here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 07:43:59 (PDT)
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Northerners!
I thought I was "hated by millions"... I reckon that it pretentious as hell to think that even millions know of me... nevermind then.
thanks to all for the sweet greetings... it touched my heart, ag nee, big ugly old horrible me is gonna cry...
but listen hey, on the day of birthday, my computer just stopped. i know what the problem is... it is hardware the dvd cd combo drive. it is naf. not the os or the mac.
but that means i had to lower myself to go to an internet cafe and use this stupid cheap rubbish NOT QA'd horrible OS you all use (Windows)
I make so many mistakes because the key is crap and you can't automatically enlarge the text for ancient old crumudgeons like me.
but hey i made it to 52 hey?
i also left my specs at home.
ag nee, ik ga na huis toe, ik is gatvol.
dankie vir alles. ik ben leif voor jou alles. well not everyone... but then i got no birthday greetings from THEM...
no don;t go there dawie on your birthday. tommorow is my mums.i will tell you a story about that one day... why i reckon i am the way i am.
i love ,y ma
i love my pa
thanks ma amd pa for having me in the most wonderful country in the world and the best continent in the universe.
ons vir jou suid-afrika!
DAWIE DIE BEDONDERED BLIKSEM
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 06:22:41 (PDT)
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Dawie
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO U MATE. HAVE A VAST NUMBER OF DUTCH BEERS AND AFTERWARDS WATCH OUT FOR THOSE CANALS WHEN STUMBLING IN TH DARK! HAVE A WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY.
The Brasso Clan.
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 03:52:20 (PDT)
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David Cooper
Dear Founder,
A very happy birthday to you, mate. May the mozzies in the swamps of the lowerlands never come up to your flat and may your age never stop you trolling the redlights.
If that is not too rude to wish for a semi-socialist bermpounder, then I dont know what is.
Cheers and many ore
Bill(William T.C.) Knott — Click here to contact me
8119 Bank Street, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K0A 2P0.
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 03:30:44 (PDT)
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Happy Birth day Dawie and keep away from the edge of the canals today.
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Deathly silence from Australian outback on the subject of misdemeanors in Chingola.
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To our buddy in Botswana you must have been a naughty boy like I was and not taken your anti tabs but be very careful I finished up with Blackwater fever after having seven cases of what the docs called neglected malaria and believe me you dont want that so get gulping those pills down you.
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To all you lurkers in the UK make an effort to come to the Bash next Saterday night I know there are a lot of you and would like to see you all there as would we all. Regards to all Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 03:14:19 (PDT)
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Dawie - you "ou doorn",
A belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you.
Regards
CJ
Charles Cartmill — Click here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 03:13:46 (PDT)
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Dawie
Veels geluk met jou verjaarsdag!
or
Van harte gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag!
or
Happy Birthday!
Take your choice - I never know what baladdy language you're talking in these days so just add old sod to the end of any lines above
Sark
Arthur Steevens — Click here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 02:03:31 (PDT)
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Dawie
Now what do you want me to say,
Fifty two years old today!!
And weren't you such a cute little boy
Your mum and dad's pride and joy
Growing up in Nkana East
Terrorising every man and beast
Always with a catapult or a gun
Yes, but it was lots of fun
For you, they just could not tame
the town has never been the same
En nou bly jy in Bloemstraat
But Dawie please, have a heart
When you really start to jol
Even the Dutch might get gatvol
For you of course, it's very easy
You're from just north o' the Zambezi.
'Cileekalipa apa' you will say
and also 'Nshileelaala' hey?
Don't get yourself into a rage
I'm afraid its something that comes with age.
Happy Birthday and tukamonana pali cine
Heather Chalcraft — Click here to contact me
Lusaka
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 01:02:54 (PDT)
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DAWIE
Wishing you a bright and beautiful day for your birthday, and may all your wishes in the world come true...
from Alix, Alice, Jade and Leah...
thanks for bringing the GNR to the world...
forever greatful
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 00:49:15 (PDT)
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Graham delighted that you are going to make it to Wallesey
is the old man coming up as well? see you there mate Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 00:09:54 (PDT)
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Note re. Malaria Cure:
Please note, I cannot vouch for or against the information I passed on. I have no special knowledge of it or of the purchase source nor do I have medical training. Hopefully Ian or his friends in Africa have a source they trust.
Having said that I would also want my people to check it out for me if I had malaria.
Let me know by email if I can help further. I'd like to if my help is needed.
Tina
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 22:46:10 (PDT)
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MALARIA CURE:
Arinate can be bought from the link with the Mosquito picture on it at www.malariacure.com also info at www.artesunate.com and www.dafra.be
Tina
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 22:23:45 (PDT)
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Linda Moult
So much has happened recently to us to intercept this message, started a couple of times before, but your package came, and thank you! I just love these magazines you and your hubby turn out. Animal Talk and HQ - South Africa's Horse Quarterly are beautiful quality, a treat for the eyes and full of really worthwhile information. There aren't many mags I'll bother to buy a subscription to but yours won't be passed up.
Re. the two articles on Ridgies working with Rangers in Kruger National Park and "The Hottentot Hunting Dog" - if you feel like it, I'm sure other GNR readers would also love you to write on this site about the often misunderstood role and current use of Ridgies. I loved your pin-up of Chibuluma Ugazi in the one mag. She is a glorious ridgeback. As I looked at her I remembered stroking (and smelling) the sun-warm short russet coat and broad head of my Moffat back at the farm and in our early years in Kabulonga and I saw again the expression in her brown eyes. Ridgeback eyes are something else aren't they?
Thanks hey!
...But now I am very confused. WHICH LINDA?
Is it Linda M who is getting the other wing operated on or Linda D who is getting something further done to her wing? I just don't know if it's the Bird in the hand (i.e. down the road in Austin) or the Bird in the Bush (i.e. S.A. - poetic licence used). Whichever of you it is, all the very best for a successful op and painfree recovery.
The Bird(brain) in Dallas.
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 21:55:49 (PDT)
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Dawie
To Linda perfect birthday poem I shall simply add:
When they made our Dawie
They cooked up a great batch
Good Dutch beer - there's some poetry
Quick Dave! Down the hatch!
Happy Birthday from the Magees
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 20:59:30 (PDT)
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Dawie
Happy Birthday!
Linda
Good luck with the op.
Everyone
Ian Meyrick in Botswana has just had an unpleasant bout of malaria. I have read a few months back of a new medicine that completely cures malaria, even the resistant strains, but I cannot remember the name or details. Does anyone have any info on this?
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar — Click here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 20:21:13 (PDT)
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Hi All:
I was sitting in a sports barber shop while my son had his hair cut today and I idly glanced over to the big screen TV just as the the word "Zambia" caught my attention. Most Americans have no idea what or where Zambia is. It turned out to be the Strongman of the World competion, being held right at the Livingstone side of the Vic Falls! I was mesmerized - as much by the incredible strength of the men as I was by the beauty of the scenery. It was being held right at the Falls, perhaps in the grounds of a hotel there? The camera man skillfully captured the Falls over and over in the background as men with bulging muscles pulled train engines up a slope with their bare hands, and held up steel pillars while grimacing in pain. I came away after watching for several minutes, totally breathless. A double bonus.. it doesn't get any better than that. He! He!
Message for Bugs Da Silva:
You are just posting mean things about me because I could eat a beer glass and you couldn't. And yes, I confess, it was me who stole your distributor from your engine.. Do you remember when you and I were in that stunt car that went around the rugby field on two wheeles at Kitwe Playing Fields when those dare devil drivers came to town? I think Lydia Lawlor was in the car with us. You were shaking so bad when we all got out, whispering desperately to me, "Hold me up so the buns can't see I'm about to flake out.." Luv ya!
Linda (Dore) Hayes
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 18:56:55 (PDT)
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Apologies up front if my html is messed up...
To Dawie van der Bliksem Cooper
There once was a young lad named Dave
Who never learned how to behave
He travelled afar, on his bike or by car
In search of the all-perfect rave
He sailed in a ship 'cross the sea
His case to the Dutch he did plea
Now he drinks so much grog, in the land of the clog
While he ushers in age 53
Happy Birthday, Dave!
From Linda and Beauteous the Departed
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 18:38:15 (PDT)
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SCARSCALP
I know I have let the side down but unfortunately there is nothing I can do about it. I can trust you to fight the NCHANGA corner on your own. Johnny Green will back you up he's an ex Chingola copper.
Cheers
Mark
MARK POWELL — Click here to contact me
TAUNTON SOMERSET UK
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 17:04:06 (PDT)
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June,
Were those Nigerian messages you received sent through the Names Directory, or were they regular e-mail? Messages sent through the Names Directory are very short and have tracking information at the bottom, as well as an e-mail address to forward them to if they are spam.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 14:03:48 (PDT)
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Dear Linda it is getting close to mending wing time I hope you are using it sensibly and getting as much down your neck as possible before Teusday morning as you will not get any in there for a while I think I speak for us all when we wish you a painless operation and a speedy recovery on the 30th Regards Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 13:14:41 (PDT)
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CHILUBA vs CHILUBA
An excellent way to get rich quick is to be the ex-wife of an ex-president. This is what Mrs Vera Chiluba is claiming from ex president Chiluba in her application to Ndola High Court:-
She wants US$2.5billion in a lump sum, and claims she can prove he has the funds available. She also requires maintenance for their nine children, none of whom are in gainful employment. She also needs a share in 6 properties in Ndola and a commercial farm in Chisamba. Also she needs a new executive Mercedes Benz 500 (or 600). a new Land Cruiser, a new Nissan Patrol, drivers as well and a court order for the return of 400 cattle, sheep and goats which are still at State Lodge.
This was taken from the Zambia Post and was also reported in The Zambia Society Newsletter compliled by the glamorous Maggie Currie.
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Are African presidents the only ones so clever in accumalating wealth so quickly? Even ex president Marcos of the Philipines didnt get hold of such huge amounts in such a short time.
Elias
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 12:52:22 (PDT)
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Alix my daddy used to say to me that smells are always different to a dwarf in a lift. Love Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 09:50:32 (PDT)
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Craig:
Thought you might like to know I have received 5 of those pleading e-mails from the Nigerians ( or whatever )this morning, so it seems they have not been blocked out...am I the only one targeted. Of course they went right into the garbage can..
June Bohl — Click here to contact me
Los Angeles County, California, USA
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 08:56:31 (PDT)
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Linda,et al...
Hello stranger, how are you??
I thought ALL of NR/Zambia was the centre of the KNOWN universe..at least that is how I see it..
beautiful, beloved NR/Zambia....
ciao
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 07:55:23 (PDT)
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Yeh! ... KALULUSHI ... my place!
My Kennel name for my Rhodesian Ridgebacks is 'Chibuluma'.
Yessssssssssssssss
Linda Moult — Click here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 07:48:36 (PDT)
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Elias
You know what thought did ??? giggles
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 04:44:27 (PDT)
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Brasso
Before I joined the army..way back when??..I always thought I was the dizzy, lofty, height of 5ft exactly....well sadly the army not only pushed me into shape so to say but also shrank me, I am officialy 4ft 11...and even now I measure that same height..I always hoped to have grown taller as I got older,unfortuneatly an old wives tale ...or maybe it was because I just wasn't given enough Kafue river water....one good thing for me though because I am not going to the bash you will still be the shortest there....or are there any other shorter people than you attending.....can someone enlighten me about that ....but I must say good things come in small packages...
cheers
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 04:40:43 (PDT)
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Garry Brasso
Alix is desperate to find an adult her own size. I think she is only 4 foot 9 inches. So be warned, although you may be safe as you are a bit on the tall side.
You are right about the advantages of being short. My wife had a childrens clothes shop that sold a lot of fancy imported clothes and a lot of her customers were small women. Mainly because the prices are much lower than adult clothes because you dont pay Value Added Tax on kids clothes.
Regards
Elias.
ps. Did you notice Des Kennys exellent play on words? "You look up to him"
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 04:38:28 (PDT)
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Kevin Stone.-- And all the other so-called geographers out there,
KALALUSHI IS THE CENTER OF THE KNOWN UNIVERSE and the correct spelling is KALULUSHI. I would appreciate it if you and all the others would spell it correctly. Remember -- KALULUSHI. If you can't handle that use Chibuluma or Chib.
Thank you for your time
Regards Gordon.
Gordon Garlick — Click here to contact me
Aberdeen, New Jersey. The United States of America
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 04:26:08 (PDT)
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Alex Key
Ohhh errrrrrr! Do I really want to disclose my height (or lack of it) in a public forum! Oh - what the hell - all of me is a meare 5 Ft 2 Ins - short but nice! Besides the air down here is cleaner (those taller folks breathe all that pollution and have their heads in clouds so can't see well) and I have the advantage of getting to the bar in a crowd quicker - I just walk between the bodies of those taller than me. High bars can be a problem though - I'm alright if there's a foot bar rail though - I just stand on that and can see over top!!!! Hee hee. Check back at the Bath Bash (Sept/Oct 2001) pictures of me and Des Kenny - the "tall & short" of it U might say! Now come clean and reveal your height Alex!
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 04:08:50 (PDT)
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Brasso
As a short person I am curious to know how tall or how short you are.....
Shorty Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 03:51:21 (PDT)
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Mark Powell - Taunton
Wot! Not comming to Wallasey!!!!!!!!! Grrrrrrrrrr. As Graham Nelson (Scarscalp) said in his posting - an ex-Nchanga rugger player not attending Wallasey is called a "WOOOSE". Please call Graham to obtain explanation of this term. We need the Powell clan at Wallasey as Graham may feel intimidated as he will probably be the only Nchanga attendee there!!!!!
Elias G
I only used the term MR for Kenny as I was in a polite mood! He calls me "Sir or Bwana" - as being younger than I he respects me age (I think)! Hee hee - if U believe that U believe anything! I look at him eye to eye as well - ONLY WHEN I STAND ON A CHAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moo Moo 5 Cows, Brenda, Fi Fi & Heather; Lydia & other Ladies (too many to mention).
Get your best "bib & tucker" on ladies! Wallasey Wallow is drawing nigh! We have lots of drinkies to consume and fun to participate in! Looking forward to seeing you all in person again & at last. Ohhhhhhhh! Just watch out for John Green & Elias - charmers the pair of them!
Ian/Lorraine Forbes & Pappy/Shirley Papier (an others) - looking forward to seeing you all at long last in Wallasey.
Ian Forbes - call me in week after 14.30 Hrs to advise what time U R expecting to arrive in Banbury from London on the Saturday morning May 4? I wonder if I should stock boot of car with Castle or Lion as stoppover refreshments(N Rhodie style)!
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 03:40:36 (PDT)
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LINDA DORE
Bugs was most upset that I didn't give you the "whole birthday message" but I'm sure you can imagine what he said! he wants to know do you still enjoy riding your bicycle without the seat on and no handle bars? Sounds like he was a very pleasant young lad!! I'm glad I got to know him in his early 20s, he's bad enough now!!
I am posting this on behalf of my sister Denise Mooney, as she broke her password and still can't get through. - (Hi Craig)
ELIAS GEORGOPOLOUS
I saw Jo and Clive last night, she has had a house full of "When we's" the past six weeks, so hasn't had a chance to visit the site. She is hoping to get a chance this weekend and will drop you a line.
Jacquie Ross
Jacquie Ross (Now van Belkum) — Click here to contact me
Durban, Westville, Kwazulu Natal, S.A.
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 02:54:50 (PDT)
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Dave,
Growing up in Kasama was great for us kids although we lived on a farm and didn’t have too much to do with the “townies.” As a Provincial Centre most of the people there were on a three year tour and so one never managed to keep friends for long before they moved on.
I have just read in today’s paper that my beloved Northern Province, the centre of the universe is going to be split into two with Mpika destined to become the Provincial Capital for the new North Eastern Province, what next, Kalalushi the capital of Western Copperbelt???
Look after Heather for us and don’t forget to send her back please, we are missing her already and she has not left yet.
Kevin
Kevin Shone — Click here to contact me
Ndola, Zambia
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 01:53:40 (PDT)
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ELIAS,
I don`t make Gary call me Mr. Des Kenny, it`s just that he does look up to me.
I have had a few people contacting me at the last minute , who are now coming to the Wallasey Bash, they have been catered for. If there are any others out there, we can cater for you too.
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 01:17:51 (PDT)
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This month's images... one more time.
I have moved this month's images back onto this server. For those that already managed to see them, you can ignore this message. For those that never managed to see this month's pictures for some reason, you should now be able to see them with no problems.
Sorry for the problems.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 01:09:56 (PDT)
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Hey Powell,
As an ex NCHANGA rugby player I officially declare you a "WOOOSE". Failure to attend reunions is unaceptable, especially when work is used as the excuse. Phone me if you want to fight about being called a WOOSE.
CHeersnbeersworsnbiltong
Graham Nelson — Click here to contact me
Bath UK
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 23:40:05 (PDT)
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Bad news about the Jesus Tree surely some one somewhere has got a photo of it, I am ashamed to say after nearly 20 years in Chingola and passing it just about every day I never took a pic of it, I know a great friend of mine had one but he unfortunately passed a way in Pine town many years ago, but I think maybe his daughter and her husband are still in Chingola his name was Cyril Wilcox and Maybe if she reads this she might just ask her Mother (if she is still with us) to send the pic so she can scan it to Arthur as it is well worth seeing, Fingers Crossed Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 23:14:27 (PDT)
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Northeners,
All those that were asking about the Jesus tree on the Bancroft road will be disappointed to learn that it has been chopped down. this caused outrage as there was a preservation order on it.
All those attending the Wallesey wing ding have yourselves a brilliant night. Sorry but the powell clan will not be able to attend as I am stacked out with work.
Brasso, youll have to find another cook to assist you with wors,steaks & pirri pirri chicken.
Make sure there are plenty of photos.
Craig,
how do people register for IDs & passwords??
Cheers for now
Mark Powell
MARK POWELL — Click here to contact me
TAUNTON SOMERSET UK
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 15:14:44 (PDT)
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Garry Brasso
Why does Des Kenny make you call him Mr Des Kenny?
I thought you were good friends?
Elias
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 14:38:12 (PDT)
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Lynne and Leslie,
Here's holding thumbs for you! My father had similar ops. when he was 78 - and has not looked back. The ops. were performed in a small hospital. Not state of the art, but in Bethlehem - in the Orange Free State South Africa, by an eye-specialist called Staple. Today, at the age of 83, he's got the eyes of a young man.
Sheelagh, Thelma Peters and/or Stuart Goodwin and/or Billy Wilson and/or A.N.Other,
When do we see photos of the Broken Hill reunion in Johannesburg? A group of 58+ people from BH should be newsworthy. Cape Town was the first City to have a GNR get-together, and the BH'ers never let us down - n'est ce pas -Peter Morris?
Regards
Charles Cartmill — Click here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 11:57:39 (PDT)
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Sitting here in sunny Edinburgh pissing it up with my old mate Robert 'the reprobate' Hamilton from Kitwe,missing for many years and found through these pages. Thanks Dawie for your vision; Craig, Arthur et al for the effort. See you all in Wallasey.
George Maxwell — Click here to contact me
Draughty Edwardian house in Edinburgh
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 10:31:02 (PDT)
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LYNN SZEFTEL
I trust all went well with the cataract operation, Leslie
had this morning.
Let it be a huge success and good health and the best of
luck to both of you.
Regards,
Nico Stapelberg
Nico Stapelberg — Click here to contact me
Perth Western Australia
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 08:55:39 (PDT)
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Gary,
Your wrong mate, there are no rooms available at the Leasowe Castle it is fully booked. But there are other hotels available.
For all attending the pre bash, visit ( alcohol tasting) on the friday night. Can I ask everyone attending to meet in the Leasowe Castle bar at precisely 7.30. ( not 7.29 and not 7.31). Why you may wonder, well be there at 7.30 and find out.
And bring your camera`sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
This is proving to be very hard, keeping my hands off this LION.
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 06:41:52 (PDT)
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Dave Cooper
Leasowe Castle Hotel, Wallasey, Merseyside telephone number is 0151 606 9191.
OTHERS
The Time is drawing nearer to the
GREAT NORTH ROAD EVENT !!!!!
You are invited to attend the ........
The Wallasey in The Wirral Wallow.
Saturday, May 4 2002
19.30 Hours till late !!!!
Wallasey Rugby Club, Wallasey, Merseyside.
Contact: Mr Des Kenny
Tel: 07762 754071
E. Mail: des_kenny18@hotmail.com
Braai, Beer, Wors, Biltong & Boerermusiek !
Only £ 20.00 per head.
Accommodation - Please Note!
There is limited room available at the Leasowe Castle Hotel, Wallasey at a GNR reduced rate.
For further information telephone the hotel on Tel.: 0151 606 9191(quote Des Kenny when booking).
Thank you!
Gary Brasso - for the GNR
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Friday, April 26, 2002 at 02:15:19 (PDT)
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Phew!
Had to use Craig' alternative method of inserting the password after what seems like ages to a computer dunce like me.
Just to say that can't make the bash on the 4th of May, much as I would love to, as it is my wife's second 25th birthday. You will understand that not to attend that takes more courage than even an ex-GNR can muster! Hope everyone there has a great time. Will be thinking of you as I tuck into my canepes and cheese & oninion on toothpicks!
Many kids went to Kingswood college and if anyone interested they have a great web-site which I believe is www.Kinswoodcollege.com. If not there, try asking Jeeves.
david
David Atkiss — Click here to contact me
Nottingham
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 15:08:35 (PDT)
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Northerners!
I don't get viruses and such on my computer (it's not a PC and it doesn't run Windows), but you should consider this...
If you have a lot of unprotected intercourse, and you are very promiscuous with your email (chain letters, forwarding listed posts, opening everything you get), then you are going to pick up lots of viruses.
Practice a little "safe email" exchange and don't be such an easy email shag and you will find you get less viruses.
Just a friendly reminder....
Dawie van der Bliksem
Bringing the Zambesi to Amsterdam!
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 12:37:03 (PDT)
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Graham
Nice to see a European presence on the GNR!!!
I have contacted you by e-pos, so check your queue.
I am in Amsterdam. Looking forward to making contact.
Tot ziens
Vriendelijke groeten...
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 12:27:48 (PDT)
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ANYBODY ATTENDING RIVERAIN PRIMARY SCHOOL EARLY 1960's
I was born in Nkana Kitwe and attended Riverain Primary School until around 1960 before departing for South Africa.
I have now lived in Europe for more than 20 years and would be interested to contact anybody who may have been at school with me at the time....
Please reply with details and perhaps we can make contact .
Graham Kresfelder — Click here to contact me
Monte Carlo, Monaco
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 12:20:50 (PDT)
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Hi Northerners,
Just a small request wishing us good health as Leslie is booked in to our ultra new modern Eye Hospital here in Lusaka for a cataract operation tomorrow morning.
Thanks all
Lynn
Lynn Szeftel — Click here to contact me
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 11:45:29 (PDT)
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I had a message from Glen Kotzen's wife Kathi last night.They have a big runner on Champion's day at Turfontein on Saturday in Race 4 called First World. The filly is a fantastic filly and though taking on strong company they rate her very highly. At 10/1 if she travels well she is a big runner.
Bet of the day though is Wolf Whistle in the Derby who has been backed to win both this race and the July.
At present you may be able to 40/1 or a stretch on both races.
Seems good value now with the work he has been putting in against his much vaunted world class Flight Alert.
Chris Swart — Click here to contact me
Kitwe
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:42:54 (PDT)
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Hi there to all on the message board. I don't know if I am correct but have I seen somewhere that Brian Joyce posted a message I have checked the names directory he is not there. So Brian if you read this could you contact me as John Howard your old pal wants to contact you. Love and Hugs to all Irene Barnard
Irene White — Click here to contact me
Fergus,Ontario, Canada
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:37:35 (PDT)
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Sad news to us all.
George Diakogeorgiou who some of you may remember at Kitwe Garage, Kawiko emerald mine or Kankoyo Breweries died last night after a very sudden heart attack.
I will remember George very fondly as a very close friend of my fathers and will not forget a moment of the bright shining face and laughter he leaves with us all.
A very keen fisherman and hunter George will be sadly missed.
Chris Swart — Click here to contact me
Kitwe
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:36:00 (PDT)
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This month's images
I am aware that some people have not been able to view this month's images. Today in particular there is a major problem and I can't even get to the server. When I can once again reach the secondary server, I will put the images on the main server and everyone will have no problem seeing them again. Sorry for the problems.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:11:58 (PDT)
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Sue,
The message that you apparently received from me is not from me and it is a virus. Please see my message a few back to Jill and Linda on the matter. Your anti-virus software should have caught it.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 09:29:10 (PDT)
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Dawie et al......
You were right about the quince belonging to the rose family, in fact the amazinging thing about the quince it comes from the class. Magnoliopsida ..the magnolia family...order. Rosales family. Rosaceae...
the flowering quince is the Japonica, which the hips are used to make jam...and the roots of the Quince are used for root stock for pears....I hope that little bit of information is helpful ...
ciao
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 08:36:51 (PDT)
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G'day ALL
Craig - I have today received a very strange e-mail from you from an address of yours that I don't recognise. The message contained a game. I hope it wasn't something nasty...
I also received a blank one from Des Kenny.
Neither of you are in my address book. I use Yahoo and scan and clean, so hopefully it's all OK. Does anyone have the email address MUKI? I received an email from that person too but didn't open it!
I do realise that none of this was intentional.
Sue Forde — Click here to contact me
Perth, Western Australia
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 08:30:38 (PDT)
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Northerners
Has everyone noticed the names that Dawie keeps on changing to bring to Amsterdam ?? Interesting game....I am learning a lot...
Ciao
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 07:47:34 (PDT)
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SOD THE EAGLE.........THE LION HAS LANDED.
It is safe in my shed.
Don`t forget the Auction, bring lots of money. Loads of Zambian items.
Anyone want direction on how to get to the Lighthouse pub, just ring me on 07762-754-071
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 06:52:20 (PDT)
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Kevin
You know all the braggardly talk by us boys about how many Six of the Best we took without a quince, wince or pinch reminds me of all the punishment meted out by my dad.
The things I did as a young lad. No wonder I am the horror I am today! But boys will be boys.
Has anyone on the site ever explained what it was like growing up in Kasama? To us Copperbelt xenophobes, NR was just the Copperbelt, we even excluded Lusaka as just a "bunch of civil servants" from England.
What can you tell us? (Sorry if I put you on the spot)...
Dawie van der Bliksem
Bringing the Miami to Amsterdam!
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 06:34:22 (PDT)
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Dave
We grew quinces on our farm in Kasama but the fruit was very sour and many a first tooth came out as a result of eating them raw.
It brings to mind a rather painful experience resulting from a whipping we got with a quince stick when we nearly burned down the garage with the tractor inside. The roof of this garage was thatched and as boys do we used to pull out a straw, light it, and play fire-fighters dousing the fire before it took hold. One day we misjudged our expertise and to our utter horror the roof caught light. Fortunately the fire was put out by the farm hands before too much damage was done but later we three boys had to choose the stick that we thought was the least painful, cut and trim it and then bend over. I must say that we never tried that stunt again.
Kevin Shone — Click here to contact me
Ndola, Zambia
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 06:22:16 (PDT)
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N o r t h e r n e r s!
I am unable to get into the archives to search for a telephone number once posted.
Email to Des Kenny is not answered.
Can someone please post the telephone number to me for the Leasowe Castle.
Northern Rhodesian content is assured. One of the reasons I created the Great North Road web site just reared her head after 30 years absence... as soon as she has a moment, I hope to make an introduction. This will be about the fifth person I have found with this web site, so I reckon it worked for me!
Dawie van der Bliksem
Bringing the Angwa to Amsterdam!
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 05:59:20 (PDT)
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Dear Amanda your mother is chicken tell her I said so,Now I have got the bit between my teeth come on you trackers who knows where the Breen family are now and can any one in Chingola remember an incident involving a Mcintosh and a Breen it canot have had any criminal association or I would have heard of it, perhaps a woman involved? this will stir mam into some sort of retort even if it is fffat chance of me telling him any more, tell your dad we never give up it will be better if he comes clean that way he may get a little symphathy for his misdameanor, regards to Mammy and Daddy love to you Johnny.
PS And to all you Quince munchers have a sexy weekend.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 03:38:23 (PDT)
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Northerners!
Quince are certainly part of the wonderful panorama of African fruits. Often my mother would prepare them by baking them in the oven with honey. Much like a baked apple.
Quince are related to roses. In fact, I believe the quince fruit is similar to a rosehip.
In Africa you will find quince growing quite well in South Africa. I remember seeing them on the Rand, and in the Cape.
The climate in Northern Rhodesia may have been too close to subtropical to be condusive to their growth.
Dawie van der Bliksem
Bringing the Hunyani to Amsterdam!
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 03:03:59 (PDT)
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Dear Johnny
Apparently my father visited Chingola with a Chap called Tom Breen from Ndola ..... My mother will not say anything else. Perhaps if anyone knows Tom, his wife or children who were last heard of in Hatfield, Herts, they could him what happened
Amanda
Amanda McIntosh — Click here to contact me
Auckland New Zealand
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 02:37:34 (PDT)
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Dear Amanda thank you for your explanation as to why I had never come across Quince in Africa so I did not miss anything, the twenty kgs I requested was just for me and on reflection as to my age I should have asked for 40kgs,I am sorry to hear that your dad never visited Chingola tell him he has never lived, but that little piece your mother slipped in was intriguing that he had visited,what is he trying to keep quiet? get your mam on the QT to let us know what transpired there sounds as if it could be interesting, the Mcintosh who was the the chief of police in Chingola around 64 was a real gentleman I wonder where he is now does anyone know? I will never forget his farewell to us all he finished his speech with the words Gentle men we need never have lost, very true.
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My dear Alix you suggest apples as a substitute for Quince but at my age I do not think they grow that many, Love to you both and regards to all Johnny.
Ps To my buddy Elias we are always in the wars, as our Chinsali friend would say Keep A Stiff Upper Lip, and wear a bullet proof vest at Wallesey.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 01:17:31 (PDT)
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Dear Johnny
sorry but the quinces I was talking about were from Hawkes Bay, a fruit growing area of New Zealand. They are very plentiful there and are now in season. I will investigate how to get them to Wallesy - for a price. As Alix says Do not eat them raw.
My father was not police chief in Chingola in fact he does not think he can remember visiting Chingola. Ma says he did but the least said about the vist the better. Sorry to disapoint you
amanda
Amanda McIntosh — Click here to contact me
Auckland New Zealand
Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 00:12:02 (PDT)
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Johnny
I have 1kg of the fruit in my fridge waiting to be baked, and I am afraid that I cannot share my quince with anyone, I am just lucky that I have children that do not like them..oh and by the way, quince is a large yellow fruit not unlike an apple but to eat raw they are very astringent, and are not very nice,they have a creamy flesh raw but go dark ruby colour when baked...oh and I forgot add a little lemon juice to them as well when cooking.lekker....oh and I beleive it is apples that are the fruit of love...
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 23:47:34 (PDT)
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Linda, Jill and everyone else regarding the latest virus outbreak,
This latest virus does something I haven't seen before. Not only does it send itself to all of the addresses it finds on your computer, but it also send itself from the addresses it finds on your computer. Therefore, even though the virus might appear to have come from Jill's e-mail address, it's quite possible it actually didn't originate on her computer (especially if, as she says, her anti-virus software is up-to-date), but on another computer that has Jill's e-mail address stored in its address book.
For example, my computer is not infected. However, I have even received copies of the virus apparently sent from one of my e-mail addresses. Therefore, it's quite possible somebody on this message board has received a copy of the virus which might have appeared to come from me because (believe it or not) some people out there actually have my e-mail address in their address book. A close examination of the full headers of an e-mail might help to determine from whose computer the virus was actually sent.
Elias,
Apology accepted. Thank-you for making it. I'll be expecting a round on your tab in Wallasey. :)
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 23:43:53 (PDT)
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Dear miss/mrs Mackintosh what a pity you will not be attending our bash at Wallesey you could have brought us about 20 KGs of Quince, for all I consider myself as an old Africa hand I canot ever remember quince ever mentioned in conversation anywhere and I certainly never had any to eat mores the pity if your description of its properties work.
Regards Johnny.
PS Was your father a one time Chief of police at Chingola
about 1964?
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 23:36:52 (PDT)
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Heather
Our Dutch next door neiboughs use to make something called quittenbrot which translates I think as quince bread. It was certainly stiffer than the quince paste Nanna used to give us, and could be sliced like a cake. By the way did you know that it was believed that only married couples should eat quince together as quinces were certain to spark off raging lust between men and women? Perhaps you should stick to guavas.
We used to call our grass cutter a "swisher" becuase you stood and swished it to and fro. We brought one to New Zealand and my Father was going to make his fortune selling them to Kiwi's. Unfortunately they were reluctant to give up their sheep, and swishing never caught on. Occassionaly he persuades one of the grandchildren to cut the lawn with it for him, and he stands and watches shaking his head. "I thought it was such a good idea"
Amanda
Amanda McIntosh — Click here to contact me
Auckland New Zealand
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 22:58:48 (PDT)
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Linda Hayes,
I have run through my UPDATED anti virus check now 3 times - and still no virus appears? What do I do now? Nobody else has told me I have a virus and I can't find your 'fix' for this virus that you said you put on this forum.
I apologise if I have sent a virus to anyone - but, in my defence I have an anti-virus check on all incoming emails, another anti virus check which I update every three days and that shows that I have no infections - so where have I gone wrong?
Jill
Jill Aplin — Click here to contact me
RSA
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 14:47:08 (PDT)
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MY SINCERE APOLOGIES TO ALL GNR READERS
Please accept my apologies for misleading you all about racist e-mails which were sent to me. The e-mails were genuine but had nothing to do with contributors or readers of the GNR. When I received them and many others, I thought they were quite funny and posted two of them on the board as a joke, without mentioning that they had nothing to do with the GNR. Foolishly I didnt realise how seriously GNR readers took such things and the joke backfired seriously. I am very sorry also for all the people that took the trouble to write messages of sympathy. Alix even wasted her money phoning me from Australia.
Craig, Arthur, and Heather sorry for the nuisance I caused.
Craig you were too polite to me, Arthur, my ears are still ringing from the berading you gave me. Heather, the disgusted silence is just as had.
Sorry again everbody.
elias
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 11:16:32 (PDT)
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It's me again. I have just received a virus from Jill Aplin, so I am sure some of you others will be in line for it. Remember, every chain email you receive only widens the list of addresses that can affect you. If you have virus software installed, please remember to update it, or it will not catch the new viruses that are circulating. My Norton Antivirus is smokin'....! Sorry to be on my soap box about this, but it really is getting out of hand this week.
May the force be with you...
Linda Dore
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 09:07:20 (PDT)
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Hi All:
I have received a number of viruses in the past few days which (hopefully) my virus protector is catching and preventing from spreading to any of you. The latest 3 are from Joy Marsh, Anne Small (a.k.a. Annie Picaninni) and Yvonne Meyer. Viruses are particularly prolific in the USA at the moment, so I would imagine they are just as bad world wide. I am sure that you all have virus protector software on your machines, but with the numbers of people who are sending chain emails to each other through being friends on this board, these viruses are eating their way through our address books. Please be aware of this.
I am also asking here that I be taken off anyone's chain list please.
Be especially aware of a virus that comes in looking like it is the latest update for Microsoft. It is extremely authentic looking, and almost fooled my hubby who keeps himself updated daily on the most current viruses. The text is over a page long and even has the Microsoft signature lines info, a website to go to for updating your version of Explorer, explanations of what parts of your Microsoft programs you are updating, etc., but it IS a virus.
Thanks!
Linda (Dore) Hayes
Linda Hayes — Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 06:12:29 (PDT)
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TO ALL WALLASEY REUNION ATTENDEES
Go out to your local Photographic store this weekend and purchase several films for your camera`s.
Arthur is expecting numerous photographs to publish on the Gnr.
Also those who have them , don`t forget to bring your Camcorders, as I will be putting together an edited version of the Bash.
The LION is on it`s way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 04:41:45 (PDT)
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Heather
Thanks Heather, that is kind of you,I have a major interest in any game park that is inolved with these special breeding programmes..to think how many species of animals we loose yearly....hope you get some well earned rest...
Tina,
Knew I had the wrong name , and yes they do have that particular whine to them don't they, to me it is more of a screech ....as for the Alix part in the singing...haha I will just leave that up to Alice, as for the Amarula...now what drink is that.??...must buy some again one day .....giggles
To the person who emailed Elias
I would like to say that people in glass houses should not throw stones....and I have never heard of anybody before, being accused of being racist when the subject of the tale has to do with collecting donations of toothpaste for the council,maybe some people should read postings properly before going off the deep end......oh and may I say one more thing....in the months of being a member of the board Elias has never been remotely racist, cheeky yes, but definitely not racist...Carry on in your own way Elias, the majority of us love your stories
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 02:56:02 (PDT)
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Ali
Mariachi singers. Nearest thing to Majaranis would be Maharanis (wives of Maharajahs in India). Both would be likely to have an exotic wail in their singing style. Stick with Amarula and develop your own germane exotic wail. "Alix and the Beautiful People Sing in the Key of Amarula".
Can now see those hockey stick shaped slasher/slesher chickachickas in my mind with a bit of cloth or rubber bound round the handle part. Yes, differently shaped than pangas.... Can't help with any names for them....
Tina
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 02:16:16 (PDT)
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Janet Wentworth vs. Elias
I apologise to other GNR members for what is written below............
Who is this "so called entity" being blatantly "racist" about our Elias and his origins! Obviously she is some poor, sad, under-sexed, moronic woman who has little or no life! To you Janet I would say - go get a life babe! And leave us humans with intellegence to communicate in a civilised non-racist manner with each other. When you have matured or your brain has increased it's capacity to understand the difference between right & wrong, then & only then, post some messages on the GNR that indicate a level of maturity! Other than that if you have nothing constructive to say - stay off!!!!!
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 01:55:06 (PDT)
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Alix
This programme started about a year ago I think when they brought in some wild dogs. I can't remember the full information and don't have the time or energy (I have been here all night and am going home to sleep shortly) right now to find which issue of the Lowdown it was published in. If I have time later this week, I shall send it to you.
Heather Chalcraft — Click here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 20:17:34 (PDT)
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Northerners.....a nice story...
Heather... do you know anything about this programme??
I found this article on the wildnet.com news desk.....
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Wildlife Sanctuary Launches Cheetah Breeding Programme....
Zambia's Munda-Wanga Wildlife Sanctuary has pledged US$60 000 (R690 000) towards establishing an African wild dog and cheetah breeding programme.
Sanctuary manager Lee Stewart said the project would be the first on the continent outside South Africa, and would be designed as a tourist drawcard.
"Both cheetah and wild dog are rare outside of South Africa. We will therefore ensure that the project delivered on its conservation mandate, but also want to ensure that it is sustainable and helps subsidse othe conservation projects by boosting tourist numbers,"said Stewart
Stewart confirmed that the santuary needed an additional US$40 000 (R460 000 ) to acquire disease free breeding stock for the project.
The initiative will see Munda-Wanga establish a small research station and vetinary laboratory, as well as constructing new boma for the dog packs
Scientists and conservationists specialising in either wild dog or cheetah will be employed to manage the project
footnote....our own Perth Zoo has a wild dog breeding programme as well as a few other wild life...in its African Savannah..
a wonderful place to escape to and think you are in Africa,
with its indidgenous african plants etc.oh and of course the animals, such as Rhino, Giraffe, hyena,and the wild dogs....
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 20:03:40 (PDT)
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Heather
I know what you are talking about, I have only ever known the delicacy as "fruit leather", and yes it is very chewy , and different to the Mebos..
I bake my quinces,very slowly in the oven overnight, just adding enough water, so they dont burn, and sugar, the result is the most heavenly sweet, and eaten with sour cream ,or just plain yoghurt, just lekker...(watch the waist line though!!)
Tina
How could you mention that terrible fire water....
but yes I see what you mean...it is sort of south of the borderish..and I can imagine those singers what are they called, majaranis Sp?..... oh I better go this getting very ungermane, sorry folks
ciao
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 18:31:33 (PDT)
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Elias
We all feel the same way about anonymous posters... TRASH 'EM!
John Milton
Great to hear you had fun - Derek told me he was going... he is my brother Chris' father in law... so he sort of represented us all...
Sue Forde — Click here to contact me
Perth, Western Australia
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 16:58:54 (PDT)
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Hi! Brasso,
I don`t know why Pappy not on the GNR lately,maybe too busy with grandchild.I do know he is still coming to Wallasey,He said he would be meeting me and JR at Liverpool,I think he said they get there about 12pm,don`t think he`s going to the Light house though,said he`d wait till the evening bash.
Barrie,
Yes we do live by RAF Coningsby,you would have enjoyed being here to day,there were all sorts flying today.I ate my lunch outside in the sun,watching 1 Tornado F3 interceptor, GR4 ground attack, Jaguar, Harrier,single Spitfire and a match pair spitfires,The old girl herself the Lancaster and the Deakota,they were all flying for the opproval for the official 2002 air dispalys.oh yeh there was also a little pitt special doing all his loops later in the day.
So needless to say it was quite a noisey but enjoyable day.
Lydia
lydia Beck — Click here to contact me
Coningsby Lincoln uk
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 13:33:59 (PDT)
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Bill Hunt
No, it's not mebos - mebos is softer, thicker, more moist and is also coated in sugar. It's somethng else and I've been pulling my hair out all day trying to remember. I shall check when I go home. They also make it from quinces.
I did receive your email, but have to admit that I have not yet done anything about it - have been away and busy as well. I'll get around to it soon.
Heather Chalcraft — Click here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 12:46:57 (PDT)
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Noted that Bill Hunt was giving Heather the Afrikaans name for a guava roll name. I'm sure he agrees that the Afrikaans name given to the popular Indian appetizer the "samosa" is most appropriate.
It is of course called a . . . . . .
"drie-hoekie-koelie-koekie"
GLEN DRAKE — Click here to contact me
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, U.S.A.
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 12:38:52 (PDT)
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Heather
I believe that the Sugary Guava Roll is known as Koejawel Mebos.
Did you receive the email wrt to Mike Illion?
Regards
Bill
Bill Hunt — Click here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 12:15:13 (PDT)
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Elias
I would like to second Fiona's posting about what to do with those infantile emails. As Sammy Samaras used to tell me, "The bubbles always get to the top". (For those not used to rhyming slang, bubble & sqeak = Greek).
Re Chiquaqua. All the time I thought 'slasher' was one of those chaps who had problems with moles. I think it was Johnny who advised them to drink lots of beer and pee down the mole holes at midnight.
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar — Click here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 10:38:50 (PDT)
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Gordon
CHIQUAQUA ... all I could think of was sitting at a Mexican bar and ordering one. "A Chiquaqua on the rocks please." That should really get Johnny's imagination going, Ali.
Tina
Tina Magee — Click here to contact me
Texas
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 10:06:55 (PDT)
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John Miltoen
Thank goodness "some" people turned up I was starting to think the worst, that no one turned up..so sorry, I Promise(all GNR's take note)I will attend the next get together..Oh and I believe Nico had a good (car) excuse...
Elias
what goes round, comes round....
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 08:38:20 (PDT)
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BRIAN,
I was a year ahead of you, that makes you a lietie, no offence, I remember you in any case.
ELIAS,
What makes you so special that you get all the interesting mail! The person concerned has a major inferiority complex. We Hewbrew/Celt/Welsh/Greeks stand as one!!
THE BRAAI,
While not well attended (ALIX! NICO! SUE! notably absent!)However, the braai was a very pleasent outing with 13 quality NR'S present, Namely Roy and Nita Killick, John and Moreen Myles, Bill Thompson, Dereck Dutton, Bernie and Denise Horton, Hilliary and Frazier Matheson, John and Agatha? (Sorry, I forgot) and meena. Good stories, about the police service, good boerewors and good company!
Cheers
Jannie Boerewors Miltoen
John Milton — Click here to contact me
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 08:21:16 (PDT)
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Thanks for the suggestions about grass cutter. A panga, a machete and a scythe will not do. I know what they are and the one I'm talking about is different. It is long and flat - sort of like a flat golf club. Johnny chiquachiqua was a good one. I was close with "chick-chick". Slasher/slesher was good. Rhodesian lawnmower was the best Liz. We used to have a dishwasher of the same make. Brother says it none of the above are the word he was thinking of. Perhaps it's a South African word. Thanks all for the suggestions.
Whoever is being so offensive to Elias, that just isn't on. Whatever he has said, and I have looked and seen nothing, could never be as rude as you have been. Elias, treat anonymous mails as the trash they are and chuck them in the bin.
Fiona Gayther — Click here to contact me
UK
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 06:34:15 (PDT)
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FORTHCOMING ATTRACTIONS.
For the first time ever..........anywhere.
The Founder and The entire Management team.
Only at Wallasey on 4th May for one night only.
Meet the voices, enjoy the beer and wors and the companionship of your fellow ex Northern Rhodesians.
Places still available.....ring me on 07762-754-071
You`ll be sorry you missed this , if you do.
Des Kenny — Click here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 05:35:03 (PDT)
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Fiona,
How about Rhodesian Lawnmower?
Liz Downing — Click here to contact me
Lincs, UK
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 04:59:08 (PDT)
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Have I annoyed someone?
Come on guys who is this? I have been trying to trace all the people that I have annoyed, but the list is endless. Charlie Cartmill, Gordon Garlick, Chris Tamm, Arthur, Heather, Alix, Linda, Janie.
Craig and Dave Cooper have the expertise to send these annonymous e mails but they wouldnt lower themselves.
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Dark Chocolate to elias georgopoullos.
Elias, It sounds as tho you have issues to deal with as a brown person probably of Mediterranean origin. Your inferiority complex is screaming loud and clear, maybe the true caucasians such as GErmans, Brits etc have made you feel insecure and now you are trying to inflict it on other people darker than your self.
Your posting is crass and doesnt really say much about what you choose to answer to.
Perhaps you are the Muntu that has been dipped in milk chocolate. Wake up Brownie!!!
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Elias.
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 04:39:52 (PDT)
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GORDON GARLIC.
Gordon the VFR400/NC30, is also known as the RC30s little brother. THey were in fact made only for the japanese and far eastern markets, Honda did originally import them into England but then ceased. They are now imported by others and are re-registered here, hence mine was manufactured in Japan in 1991, but imported here in 1998. They are physically small, but comfortably out perform many larger machines. In the hands of a brave young idiot like my oldest sons nothing can keep up with them on the local twisty roads.I also have several friends with VFR 800s.
I have a friend in Hagersville CANADA, he has his own engineering company. Two friends from here have sent him £1000 each, with which he has purchased them a bike each.
They are flying over to CANADA in July, when all three of them are to tour CANADA and the STATES. When they return home he is to sell the bikes and send them their money back!!. great idea eh!!
Take care,
LYDIA BECK,
Is it RAF Conningsby that you are at? If it is you are also a very lucky person, I just love aircraft of any discription
Cheers Barribee
Barrie Braidford — Click here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 04:23:59 (PDT)
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Kevin aka scooter, Heather, June,Tina etc
would the word scythe..be of any use...hehe
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 03:32:13 (PDT)
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Des Kenny
Thanks for posting directions for us southerners on the "Great Trek" to locate Wallasey. Look forward to seeing U again mate. Ian/Lorraine Forbes U have the directions as to how to locate Banbury on M40 from London! We are still planning to leave here at approx. 05.30 am on May 4 for Wallasey. As discussed will meet U at Esso garage just as U come off M40(N) into Banbury.
Fi Fi Gayther
U be on your best behaviour until I arrive in Wallasey - then we can misbehave at Lighthouse Pub over lunch. Julie my wife has been briefed BUT she is used to me now! Hee Hee!
Elias/John Green
Looking forward to meeting U both at Wallasey and oh nearly forgot Barrie Braidford too.
Lydia Beck
Have a safe and plesant trip to Wallasey - see U there. Am looking forward to seeing you after many long years - as well as others. What has happened to your brother - Pappy? He does not appear to be posting on GNR of late! HE IS STILL ATTENDING WALLASEY?
Gary Brassington — Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 02:10:53 (PDT)
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Hot Woman?
Heather Chalcraft and Linda Hayes insults are pretty tame compared to this woman. Who is she?
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Janet Wentworth to elias georgopoullos
As someone that doesnt have to prove my colour, I find your infantile posting offensive. What stupid message are you trying to get across, dont you forget it that in this century alone your ancestors had nothing but donkeys. Use this white invention (computer) to impart knowledge or have respectful discussions. I doubt that any one is interested in hearing what you have just shared with us, you ignorant Cypriot or Greek extraction. I am sure your son is in one of the inner city slum schools and you feel privileged because you are covered in Grease serving fish and chips from your little corner shop.
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Elias
Elias Georgopoullos — Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 01:44:59 (PDT)
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Gordon Garlick
Others have talked about motorbikes on this site before. You might remember, when I first started it, and later when I posted images of links to images of my bikes. I might also have discussed the horrendous accident I had on my bike. Later I had much banter with Peter Diellison who rode bikes that I like too. My bikes included Norton 750 Commandos, Norton 850 Commandos, Yamaha SR 500's and my last my Ducati 900 Superlight.
To make the message germane I would merely add some text about Northern Rhodesia... such as a the time when Denise Crouch stole William Ballantyne's bike and rode it about Kitwe.
Along with the map of Kitwe on this site which I did with AutoCAD, I have also done a couple of CAD designs of my bikes and one of a sticky rear tyre in birds-eye view focus for the motorbike club I started at Autodesk in the 1980's.
Tot ziens
Vriendelijke groeten...
Dawie van der Bliksem
Bringing the Hunyani to Amsterdam!
Dave Cooper — Click here to contact me
Amsterdam
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 00:58:54 (PDT)
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Charlie
In the back row of the Kingswood College photo is Ian Gosling who is from Mazabuka and is still there (or at least it looks like him).
Dawie
Guavas - delicious. But watch out - the worms love them. The South Africans also make a sweet out of them, but I can't remember the name of it right now. It is mixed into a paste and then rolled out into a very thin sheet. After that it is rolled up like a Swiss roll. It's delicious - I shall have to get my recipe out and make some again.
Tina
Yes, the library at Shiwa is full of treasures. The Harveys have very kindly given me full access to their library and to all of GB's papers, diaries etc. I shall be going up there sometime later this year for about two weeks and shall take my computer up and will be scanning everything for them (and for me too). They have already given me some negatives for scanning which I have started on, but don't want to move things away from there. I also have to admit that while I was up there this time, I spent every spare minute in the 'private room' where all the papers are, reading. I had to be dragged out of there.
Fiona
The flat piece of metal is called a slasher (or 'slesher' if you want the correct pronunciation). Pangas and machetes have much broader blades and are not slightly curved at the end. Fence droppers, sharpened on a grinder, work very well as slashers if proper ones are not available.
June Bohl
Your Chilapalapa/Fanakalo is still good. Last week when I was in Durban I went into a shop that sells old/out of print books. Of course I had to exercise a lot of self-control and managed to stop at six books. I was looking for 'The Diaries of Henry John Fynn' who was one of the earliest settlers in Natal. He was given sixteen Zulu maidens by Shaka, but being a generous fellow, gave eight to his brother and kept eight for himself. After that, he married a white women and had a son, also named Henry John Fynn, who married my great-grandmother's sister.
But I digress. While I was there, I couldn't resist bying a copy of an English/Fanakalo dictionary and have been having a good look at it. We still use Fanakalo on the farm with the older people who work for us and also their children who grew up on the farm. When I have a few minutes, I shall type up a list of some of the words.
Heather Chalcraft — Click here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 00:07:20 (PDT)
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Fiona
June gets the prize, its simply known as a slasher in the shops.
Elias, what have you been doing to Heather, she is busy mixing mutti to take to the bash just for you and she promises me that you will not like it or the effects.
Kevin Shone
Kevin Shone — Click here to contact me
Ndola, Zambia
Monday, April 22, 2002 at 23:32:21 (PDT)
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Question about this month's images
Is anybody having problems seeing the pictures that Arthur is posting this month? I have had one report that one person has not been able to see any of them, so I'd like to know if there is anybody else out there having a problem.
I will tell you that the images for this month and subsequent months will be on a server different to the main site. The secondary server is not quite as fast or as reliable as the main server, but it has lots of available disk space and most people won't notice any difference most of the time.
If you know my e-mail address, you can write to me directly. Otherwise you can send me a short message through this link.
Craig Hartnett — Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Monday, April 22, 2002 at 22:47:34 (PDT)
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Johnny Green
Thanks for your great explanation,
however, I think Tina should be included in the conversation too....
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Monday, April 22, 2002 at 22:41:23 (PDT)
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Lets have it right the implement was called a Chiquaqua as Gordon rightly said, The order would be then Bamba lo Chiquaqua an Juba lo Grass, Simbi is the term for steel covering every thing from steel girders to the butchers steel, Alix if you were to attempt to juba lo grass with a panga or machete you would have to lay face down on your stomach to achieve any success in the operation not really a bad position for a lovely girl like you, and if you had lived in close proximity to me in the old country I would never have missed one of your grass cutting sessions.
Regards to all Johnny.
john green — Click here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Monday, April 22, 2002 at 22:16:45 (PDT)
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Fiona
I have heard both the names, Panga or Matchete
Alix
Alixandria Key — Click here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Monday, April 22, 2002 at 20:19:13 (PDT)
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Fiona Gayther..
The grass slasher is a Simbi...
"Bamba lo Simbi Na Juba lo grass"..commonly used, otherwise a Panga... |
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