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I wonder if there is any good result to the news that South African Breweries has bought Miller Brewing Co. for $3.6 billion. Does this mean I will be able to resume my "love affair" with Cawsell at my local bar. Or will all the beer flow from the States?
This places SAB in second place in the world in volume sales, and they could be first if they follow my suggestion!

Bob SummersClick here to contact me
Dayton, Ohio, USA
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 16:26:06 (PDT)


Peter Dielesen
Peter, I need your help with some mathematics again. This is what baffles me, Charles Cartmill is a great drinker of good wine. In 1996 he was promoted to General Manager of a famous South African Wine Company.
Immediately their sales rose from 4.5 million litres to 7.3 million litres. One of the perks of his job is free wine. How much could he have consumed to push their sales up so much?
I cant work out a figure that is humanly possible. Maybe he is just good at SELLING his products?
Regards
Elias
---------------------------------------------------------
Brasso, Des and Charles
Ba Humbug!!!

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 15:26:22 (PDT)


Heather,
How are the plans coming for the Zambian reunion in 2003. Can i take it that everyone who can will be attending???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

GARY,
Come on mate, you have to beat the 60 that came to Wallasey. For all the GNR`s who live in Britain, there is NO EXCUSE for not attending. ( is that Scottish Greek guy attending gary, you know the one that was supposed to come to Wallasey but never came cos he was frightened of heather and the other girls ).

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 09:33:48 (PDT)


Elias,
Please abstain from harassing the honorary Broken Hillians! I know your still smarting from their references to your ‘isolationist policy’ in respect to the recent Great Wallasey Wallow. However, I’m sure you’ll make amends at the Banbury Bash.
Stuart/Shelagh/Wilma/Beth,
When are you submitting snaps of the BH Braai held in Gauteng? I’m sure Billy Wilson has a suitcase full of photos.
Jacqui,
Glad to hear Dawid van AmstelDam was the perfect guide and chaperone. Was he wearing the right colours?
Regards


Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 04:59:08 (PDT)


Hi All
Elias Georgopoullos !!

I do have a car licence....two actually...one NZ and one Western Australian one......and pretty clean as well thank you!!!!!

I must say the Passport situation is a bit rough over in Zambia.....
I am in the process of renewing my Passport..will take 10 days..not bad..for the shakey Isles....where I am heading to in 28 days....for 4 weeks.......oh and I believe the weather, has been little on the cool side......minus 13 in Dunedin.....ah well I am going to stay just south of Auckland...so won't be so bad...giggles
ciao
Alix


Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 02:32:47 (PDT)


Elias
There is no need to apologise - if I had been offended, I would not have made reference to chickens and you would by now have received an extremely irate email from me undoubtedly making reference to your nether regions or something similar.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 01:36:28 (PDT)


Sorry Heather
That message from me sounded very churlish. I remember the queues to even get in to the passport office. Then you had to remember on which day to go because names were arranged in alphabetical order and sometimes they were changed without notice so after waiting for a few hours you would reach the counter and be told to come back tomorrow.

I remember having the same problem in Zimbabwe trying to collect a Birth Certificate that was ready, but we couldnt even get in the doors. So I paid one of my sister's employees son $10 to sleep in the queue overnight. Can I send you 10 Zimbabwe Dollars to sleep in the queue overnight? Ten Dollars must be worth at least 300 Kwacha.
Regards Elias
ps. Dont forget your sleeping bag.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 31, 2002 at 00:51:46 (PDT)


Elias
It is very easy to get birth certificates for gentlemen, but not so easy to get passports for chickens.

I am still struggling with visits to the passport office at least once a month, but it is an absolute nightmare in there and each visit involves standing in a long queue and if I am a little late and am not first through the door, I can be there for anything up to three or four hours. I am persevering.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 22:01:00 (PDT)


That Chalcraft Woman
Heather C., how come you got that Charles Carmill a full birth certificate in a few days. An almost impossible feat.
Yet you have punished me by letting me wait for 8 months for my passport.
Is it because I didnt bribe you like Charles, with beer, biltong and of course his impressive collection of wine? Grumble, grumble, grumble. Oh wait a minute.... did my cheque bounce maybe and you were too polite to tell me.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 11:01:35 (PDT)


Jacqui
I know what you mean - the delight in telling everyone where we are from, how much easier it was in Brussels when you are with someone who can speak French (did you get the hand movements as well, and the reason for them?) and stopping to look at each and every Italian-made bike. I have to admit that I came back a lot more knowledgeable about a lot of diverse subjects.

And I had a good laugh on the flight from Amsterdam to Nairobi - I was seated next to a Frenchman who was enroute to Bujumbura. I ordered some wine with my meal and was given a bottle of very good French wine and he decided he would also like some and they presented him with a bottle from Chile - I really saw the hand movements then!

Charlie
Yes, Ficksburg! I can only say in true Zambian fashion - just imagine

When you have the biltong, let me know and if I am not in the middle of a deadline or going off somewhere else, I might just fly down to Cape Town and we can sort out all the beers we owe each other and enjoy some non-steroidal biltong together. And perhaps I'll smuggle some biltong in as well and we can compare notes.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 07:48:52 (PDT)


Charlie

Dawie was the perfect gentleman in Monaco. His fluent French and knowledge of the French culture was also greatly appreciated by myself and my friend. He took great pleasure (and immense pride) in telling everyone we met that we were from Afrique de Sud and how often did they get the opportunity to speak to real live Zambians?? We had a wonderful day in the principality and Dawie, why haven't you mentioned the "real" bikes you saw there? I have them on video .....a whole 2 seconds! heh!heh!

Hugs to everyone on the road



Jacqui MilwardClick here to contact me
London
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 05:12:59 (PDT)


Linda,
I'm also being inundated by virii - from the same.np source as yours. My virus protection program is picking them up, but it's still damn invonvenient.

Heather,
Thank you once again for all the work you did in obtaining a full copy of my birth certificate. The world is definitley a "Global Village". To think that our fathers met, many years ago, in the Golf Club in Ficksburg - OFS. I look forward to buying you those beers. In a few weeks I'll be harvesting some biltong and I'll try and set some aside for you.

Dawie van Amsteldam,
Sorry to hear about your mom. Hope the situation improves for her in the near future. I was cleaning out a cupboard the other day, and found a pair of wooden clogs. Not the "tourist decorated" type - but the gebuine "Real Mc Gooi". I think I'll plant some African Violets in them. I'm sure that when you chaperon Broken Hill girls to places, such as the Monaco Grand Prix, you behave like a gentleman.

Shelagh,
Sorry I haven't replied to your email. Will do so.

Regards

Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 03:49:40 (PDT)


Typing Error - Banbury House Hotel special room rate!

Apologies! In my posting on May 28 I quoted room rate reduction from £ 43.50 per person to that of £ 33.50 per person per nite. Sorry this was a typing error room rate is £ 39.50 reduced from £ 43.50 per person per nite and includes English Breakfast. Apologies for any inconvenience caused!

I have spoken th Reservations at the Banbury House Hotel today and of the original 15 rooms book that they had available there are 21 people whom have confirmed bookins and the hotel now has 1 single, 2 twins and 2 doubles left. Claire did however advise that they may still have a few extras available for the nite of the 21st September - just call up and check 1st quoting GNR Reunion.

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Thursday, May 30, 2002 at 03:24:46 (PDT)



My dear Linda I am looking forward to drinking with a girl who has not had a drink for 15 years it is some thing I only get to dream about but dont do a Fiona on me and book in with a female sharing your room. love Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 14:21:25 (PDT)


Brasso
In my youth (a lifetime ago) it was rumoured that 2 drinks and I was anybody's but 3 drinks and you were wasting your time. Many a high spirited young man (names withheld to protect the embarrassed) had to be helped to his car, motherless and broke, after first misjudging my alcohol tolerance and then trying to save face with his mates who held the bet money, by attempting to drink me under the table... he! he! I think I shall bring a straw and play it safe.. ha! ha! I wonder if I can still do the old bar trick of flipping and catching a stack of 20ngwee coins off my elbow without any of them dropping. Oops just tried it. Perhaps I have to be motherless... he! he! I can tell I am going to need monitoring at the bash. FiFi?? Moi Moo?? Arty????

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 12:43:51 (PDT)


Linda Dore Hayes

Ref to those staying in Banbury on the Friday nite! N. Rhodies being what I know - U most certainly will be able to get into practice for the Saturday nite Bash. I have not decided yet but thought we all meet at my local in Kings Sutton village and try some excellent local ales and then do a 3 pub (all within 1 min walking or staggering distance of each other)crawl to savour the atmosphere of a Rural Oxfordhire village. Banbury also has the largest nightclub in N Oxfordshire called the "Sound Exchange" for those who have the stamina to boogie till the early hours of Saturday morning! There are the usual pubs about 27 of them with good food, an excellent Thai Resturant, Italian, French, Chinese, Indian and usual fast food outlets for you to savour!



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 08:27:43 (PDT)


Bwana Grins
In the words of a dearly departed friend. UH! UH??

Linda

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 06:15:12 (PDT)


Oh Johnny! I am so disappointed. I went out this morning and bought myself a new wedding hat too! So ladies, we can still have hope in our hearts - Johnny is still available and now comes with a housekeeper! How do you manage it my friend?

Gill, please get in touch soon and tell me all about Johnny's funny little habits!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 05:56:45 (PDT)



My dear friends I know that behind the gnr the wires have been red hot with rumours, suppositions, and a little phantasy thrown in and to put you all on the same wave length I will give you an official bulletin, Miss Gillian Main has moved in with me soley to perfect our tap dancing aspirations at the Banbury bash and any rumours to the contrary are entireley false, we love you all Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 29, 2002 at 04:41:59 (PDT)


Cookie Brassington
You were always such a charmer with the women... He! He! Thanks for getting the price down for us. Much appreciated!

Brasso
Are there plans for a get together for drinks on Friday at the hotel or are we all just doing our own thing. I need a bit of practice for Saturday as I have not had a drink or 6 in about 15 years! No.... it's really true!

Excitement is mounting.

Linda Dore Hayes


Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 15:20:13 (PDT)


Marion Murphy
Marion I am sending you my sister and nephews email addresses. They both had farms near Banket and have had some terrible experiences and losses. That is two generations that have had similar experiences. My Grandfathers farm in Poland was taken by the Russian Army. He was given half an hour to pack some things. He was taken to a military hospital to be experimented on and my grandmother, my mom and her three brothers and baby sister sent to a concentration camp in Siberia.
Now in the 21st Century the same thing is repeating itself
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 13:55:54 (PDT)


Hello All,

i have been contacted by a professor at Rutgers who is studying the current situation in zimbabwe about the farmers being dispossessed of their land etc. I agreed to meet him. He is travelling to zims to see the place for himself, if anyone has contacts amoung farmers still in zimbabwe who would not mind talking to him, please let me know! I would like to have a few contacts for him to talk to.

thank you

marion


Marion MurphyClick here to contact me
USA
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 13:13:02 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S !

Did you all notice Jimmy Churchill's photograph of Chingola Rugby Club stands? On the left side is still very clearly signed: "NRFC".

Amazing.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

Dawie van der Bliksem

Sundowners in Amsterdam!

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 11:02:40 (PDT)


Dave Webber
If the Dave Webber who tried to contact me through the GNR is the dynamic Linotype/Intertype expert at the NN then please get in touch. I sent you an E-mail so maybe we can connect after all these years.
To all others, I have all the Nigerian, Nepalese or Burundi currency I can handle, so "foot sack" [Afrikaans was never my strength].
My thanks to the editor of the Board who sent me the mes-
sage. Let's hope it's genuine from an old friend.

I really enjoyed the reports and photos of the Bash. Even though I knew nobody there, I recognize the types as it's like looking in a magic mirror and seeing old friends from the "good old days".

Bob SummersClick here to contact me
Dayton, Ohio, USA
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 10:25:09 (PDT)


Craig
Jislaaik man!! You must watch these people - making you sing songs about old age!! This is the way they work - trying to turn us '60s models into geriatrics!! It must be resisted at all costs.

Fiona
I did have something to say about it, but on Sunday I gorged myself on a couple of sticks of steroid-free-hormone-free-and-only-been-hanging-for-a-few-days biltong - the first of this year's crop, made from best Zambian beef reared on best Zambian grass on the banks of the Chalimbana River. It was so delicious that I forgot what I had to say about the biltong that I had in UK.

And the chongololo legs - I think I had better tell you in private what to do about those because I don't want to offend our friend Elias.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 08:22:39 (PDT)


Banbury Bash - GOOD NEWS

Cookie Brasso went behind my back and persuaded Anna Galvin the S. African Director of the Banbury House Hotel to reduce the GNR room rate from £ 43.50 per person per night for the Friday and Saturday nights to £ 33.50 per person. Not a bad price for a 3 star hotel. There are still some rooms available so I advise booking early ...... Quote Great North Road Rhodesian Reunion and my name - contact Claire Reservations Manager or Anna Galvin.

Attendance Numbers as of Tuesday May 28th.

As of the above date I am pleased to confirm that we have a grand total of 39 confirmed people attending the September Banbury Bash. A terrific response in such a short time since the Wallasey Wallow. Lets keep the momentum going and make this the biggest todate! There a lots more ex N. Rhodesians resident in the UK & Ireland! A shortlist (or should I say hit list) of people whom have attended previous UK Bash's and not yet confirmed attending the Banbury Bash will be drawn up soon for Elusive Elias to persue relentlessley! thank you those whom have responded so positiveley so early.



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Tuesday, May 28, 2002 at 07:47:49 (PDT)


DAWIE

Sorry to hear about your mom - I'm sure it'll be a worrying time for you, but the recovery rate with breast cancer is very high and as I said to Craig some time back, the biggest battle to be fought is in the mind. (I've been cancer-free for nearly three years now and already it all seems to have just been a distant bad dream.) I'll be holding thumbs and thinking positive thoughts for both of you!

While on this subject, I had some sad news yesterday: a friend of mine from St John's Convent days, Madeline le Febvre, died after losing her battle with cancer. Her family wasn't in Kitwe for very long but while they were there, her father was manager of the Nkana Hotel. (In the late 50's I think.) Madeline and her husband have been living in the Eastern Cape for many years, and she leaves wonderful memories for her children Laura-Jane and Alistaire, as well as her grandchildren. She was such a lady!

Lynthia NadauldClick here to contact me
Krugersdorp, South Africa
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 23:16:11 (PDT)


Northerners!

On Saturday I had the pleasure of attending the Chingola reunion in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada, which was organised by Trygve and Jeanette Sjothun (and I even learned how to pronounce their name) and hosted by Dave and Pat Boyd. Just like the UK reunion, I really enjoyed myself and (this is a recording) I really enjoyed putting faces to names. Somebody forced us to sing songs about old age and there were also a group of diehards singing "Ag Pleeze Daddy!" Some good boerwors was procured for the occasion (and allegedly some biltong, although I never saw it!), and someone also made a great melktert.

One of the guys I met there was author Tony Bruce, who has published several books. (He has a Web site at www.saltspring.com/glendambo.) I'm reading his latest book right now ("A Lie to Comfort the Dying"), and I'll let you know just how good it is when I'm done.

Unfortunately Tony Crane (who lives in Nevada) had to be taken to hospital early in the evening as he was not well. I spoke to Dave a short while ago and he told me that fortunately Tony did not have a heart attack (as was feared) and was released from the hospital early the next morning. He was looking much better the next day.

There was a luncheon on Sunday that was attended by about 30 people (I don't remember how many were there on Saturday, but I think it was a few more), although I wasn't able to make that.

Hopefully I will be receiving some pictures and I will post them when I do.

Thanks again to the organisers and the hosts. I really enjoyed myself.


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 21:25:29 (PDT)


Linda (et al),

Actually, the addresses from which you are receiving the virus may not be involved at all. For example, I know that dozens of copies of the virus have been sent from the e-mail address that appears within the HTML code at the top of every page on the GNR -- an address completely under my control. However, sending me a message at that address to tell me won't have any effect on the situation because the e-mail with the virus is not sent from my computer.

To give you an example, I could send a message from president@whitehouse.gov. To do so, I don't need to hack into the White House's mail server or George's own computer sitting on his desk in the Oval Office -- I just need to know how to use my e-mail programme (e.g., Outlook Express or, better still, Eudora). Of course, if you reply to the e-mail I sent it will go to George (or whoever handles his e-mail), so I wouldn't fool anyone for very long.

So really, to be honest, you're wasting your time doing much sleuthing with this particular virus. The best thing for you to do, as I'm sure you already have done, is ensure your virus definitions are up-to-date. Actually, the best thing for you to do is not use Outlook or Outlook Express, but that's another debate I won't get into.


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 20:47:25 (PDT)


Hi All:

Just had an email from Ron Clibborn-Dyer, our GNR friend in Hong Kong. I have been receiving the Klez virus, through several different emails, but originating from the address of a consulting firm in Nepal that Elias was able to track down for me. I have been sending separate emails to the addresses that the virus is coming through, just to let them know that their address book is being used if they are not aware of it. In Ron's case, I did not know it was him that I was emailing. What is more curious is that the address the virus came through is a defunct email of his that is supposed to be capable of receiving emails only, and not able to transmit messages. So, this is just to let you know that this Klez virus is very sneaky still.

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 19:36:40 (PDT)


Northerners!

I am posting this message on behalf of Chris Whitehead, who publishes the printed Rhodesians Worldwide newsletter.

James A GILMAN writes, "I am trying to make contact with anyone who might have known my sister, Joan Avery GILMAN, who lived in Lusaka at the LONGACRES HOSTEL from August 1952 to August 1955, when she would have been in her late 20s (she was born in China in April 1927). She worked in a secretarial capacity at LEGCO. The Vic Harding listed was a freelance pilot with his own aircraft who used to do bulk deliveries of supplies out in the bush, crop spraying, etc; he had a car -- an XK120 with number plate KBR111. Can you please help?" The following are the names of her friends: Lisa and John BAYLISS; Nancy BLACKMORE; Wendy BLACKWELL; Don BRACEY; Maureen BRIARTY; Dick CORRISH; Olive COWARD; Liz ERLTANK; Lee FRIEDLANDER; Pat and Pete GOLDING; Vic HARDING -- pilot; Joyce HART; Dave HEARNE; Peter HUMPHREY; Sonia KIDSON; John KIGGELL; Coral KIRK; Clyde LINDSROM; Olive LYON; Gladys LOVELL; Helen & Arthus MECHIN and baby son Tony; Bruce MORGAN; Peter MCKENNA; Charles O'CONNOR; M. PEACHEY; Jean PENN; Margaret PEARCE; Ray PRITCHARD; Mrs. ROBERTS; Irene SCHOFIELD; Garth SCROOBY; Duncan SHORT; Helen STEWART; Charlie and Wendy TYRER; Helen WALLS; Connie WHITE; Glyn WHITTLE; Eve WILLIAMS. If you have any information please contact James at 19 Brancepeth Close, Newton Hall, Durham City DH1 5XL, UK, Tel/Fax: +44 (0) 191 386 7983, E-mail: <james DOT gilman AT virgin DOT net>.


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 14:20:49 (PDT)


Dave,

Sorry to hear about your mother. That's not very good news. Bloody cancer seems to be everywhere these days.

Chingola Reunion

I'll have something to say about the reunion this weekend just passed when I get a chance later today.


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 14:13:51 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S !

I just rolled into Amsterdam on the Thalys after travelling at 285 kph on the TGV from Nice, where I spent the weekend with Jacqui Milward for the Monaco Grand Prix.

Give me a few days to catch up on email and on the GNR.

Terrible news about my ma: breast cancer (after two strokes last year). Looks like I might be visiting California this year.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 13:36:32 (PDT)


Thank you Doug. No, they were not mopani worms. They were dried chonglolos. Trouble is the legs do stick in your throat and make you cough! In fact I was being a good girl and serving out the biltong before the starving hoards arrived. Somewhere there is a lovely picture of Moira Hogarth (Steevens) banging the bag against a wall to try to separate it as it had all stuck together. Incidentally, I thought the billy was lovely, but Heather might have something to say about it!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:45:24 (PDT)


Fiona
Thanks! You are looking good there, and I see you are enjoying that giant bag of biltong (or are they mopani worms?)

Cheers - Doug


Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 12:15:21 (PDT)


Northerners
Sometime ago I found this web site but forgot to post something about it. Take a look

The Great Zambezi Bridge

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Monday, May 27, 2002 at 07:14:42 (PDT)


Right
Having had a good look at the July entries I will select a three year old filly to win it in the Zimbabwean bred Ipi Tombe.
At 10/1 she is good each way value and comes into the race with a low mass and the services of Waichong Mawing.
Only her stable companion to beat in Flight Alert but there has been tonnes of stable money on her and it is my confident selection this year.

Chris SwartClick here to contact me
Kitwe
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 12:27:59 (PDT)


First corrections to the list of names has just arrived - from Ian Forbes who has very cute sons. Here they are:
"The kids names are Craig, Jamie and Shaun was the one on the photo with Gary( Little and Lager)".




Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 10:47:34 (PDT)


This is the best I can do to name those in the previous photos. Apologies if I got anyone's name (or spelling)wrong and the kids just confuse me.

1. Adrian Mooy, Debbie Nelson, Diane Sewley
2. Fiona Gayther, Moira Hogarth (Steevens)
3. Diane Sewley, Moira Hogarth, Debbie Nelson, Fiona Gayther
4. Debbie & Graham Nelson (Scarscalp)
5. Johnny Green
6. Arthur Steevens, Denise Healy (Crouch)
7. Moira Fenwick, Arthur Steevens
8. Bwana Grins
9. Julie Brassington, Alyson Waud (Brassington)
10. Fiona Gayther, Gary Brassingtion, Moira Steevens, Adrian Mooy, Diane Steevens
11. Moira Fenwick, Bwana Grins
12. Dave Cooper
13. Moira Fenwick, Arthur
14. Andy Torrance
15. Craig Hartnet, Dawie van der Bliksem
16. Jacqui Milward
17. Adrian Mooy, Diane Sewley
18. Gary Brassington, Alan Brassington (Cookie Monster) & various Forbeses
19. Party
20. Jacqui Milward, Dave Cooper, Artie
21. Debbie Nelson
22. Dawie
23. Bat & Barrie Braidford
24. Party
25. Party (Carol Bruce & Gary Brassington among others)
26. Glenda Freeland (Fenwick), Artie, Lynda Reid
27. Dancers
28. Alan Brassington
29. Dave Cooper, Craig Hartnet, Moira Fenwick
30. Gary Brassington, Mark Bennett, Moira Fenwick
31. Dave Cooper
32. Jacqui Milward
33. Party
34. Denise & Allan Healy
35. Natash (Tash) Brassington
36. Lorraine & Ian Forbes
37. One of the Forbes lads (sorry, I get easily confused)
38. Kids (sorry again - they all look the same to me, but one of them is a Brasso!)
39. Party
40. Party
41. Denise & Alan Healy
42. Someone with a serious identity crisis

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 10:06:06 (PDT)


Sarkyarthur - The Next Bash!

Where am I? I am here slaving away at organizing the "next bash" on 21st September. I have just e. mailed U the poster for insertion on the GNR Message Board. Hope is not too big for your poota mate!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 08:35:24 (PDT)


ALIXANDRIA HASNT GOT A DRIVERS LICENCE,

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 07:12:02 (PDT)


Kindness Personified
I would like to thank, from the bottom of my heart, an incredibly kind man who delivered me a car today....for the first time in 18 months we as a little family can now be independent....
Thanks Nico.....
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 06:59:43 (PDT)


Arthur
Thanks for another great bunch of photo's. Couldn't you just post a list of the photo numbers with names next to the numbers. Jovial Johnny and naughty Dave and bouncing Brasso and smiling scarscalp and amiable Arthur plus a few others I can recognise but a list of names would be helpful.

Donald Grewar
Do you really exist? I am now dgrewar2 because you are ahead of me alphabetically! This is a disaster, I have always been number one :-) I have not seen any postings from you and you have not replied to my emails. I hope this provokes you into making a posting.

Thanks to GNR I have been contacted by my long lost school friend Harry Kallmann after 47 odd years. Amazing!

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Sunday, May 26, 2002 at 04:10:45 (PDT)


Northerners !

Here are the final batch of photos from the Great Wallasey Wallow

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This is the Leasowe Castle Hotel where many of the party-animals stopped over. The view is across Liverpool Bay and the Mersey Estuary - Liverpool can be just seen across the water.

Photos from Pat & Barrie Braidford


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This is the moment I met my sister after nearly eighteen years - thanks to you all again who connived and schemed to make this possible.

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The Party

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I have not "named names" on the image files - sadly my blonde assistant is no longer in the UK.

All the names are on the previous posting Heather made a week or two back.

Credits for the above photos go to Glenda and Moo Moo Fenwick, Ian & Lorriane Forbes, Jacqui Milward, Graham and Debs Nelson.


Thanks again to everyone on behalf of The Great North Road.

Now for the next Bash - Gary - where are you !



Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 15:41:13 (PDT)


Wallowers/Bashers

It has been less than a month since the Wallasey UK Wallow. In the period of time that I have been planning and posting details of the comming Bigger Banbury Bash on 21st Sept. I am delighted no encouraged to advise as of 25.5.02 we have 33 firm bookings for this event! Appears to be going from strength to strength. I have not included in these figures the band members of "The Crusaiders" and their families!

Moo Moo 5 Cows & Glenda - silence! Johnny Green will need U at event to keep him under control. Also the "Gang of 4" (Tina McGee, Linda Dore, Fi Gayther, diane)needs to be increased to the "Fabulous 6" including yourselves! Yes our USA ladies are comming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hubbies have given them permission!

Elias G - U R gonna be busy mate! GNR Publicity Dept will be working overtime.

Heather C - good talking to U last nite or was it early this morning? I sincerely hope that U will be able to attend this event - I know U will do your best! Business & family do come 1st though! Luv U. Remember my 49th birthday is the following Saturday! Big excuse to start party early huh!

Sarkyarthur - U quiet - wher U gone?

Ada, Chris Cantrel & Scarscalp - message from Fiona & Graham Wall in Saudi. We comming to Banbury Bash so WHY HAVE U NOT confirmed yet? We hope U will all be able to attend.





Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 13:38:02 (PDT)


To everyone who has contributed stories and photos lately - Thank You - a fantastic job! Great to read and see!

To the organisers of the Wallow - well done and thanks to those that shared their fun with those of us (poor unfortunates) that couldn't be there!

Linda Dore and others infected by Viruses...

Derek Dutton rang today to say that IF he has inadvertently passed on a virus to any of you - he sincerely apologies! He says, he is 'a babe in the woods' with computers and the Net and has not deliberately sent anything out... (we all know how THAT happens) and wants you to know that he is getting his computer cleaned by an expert.

To the GURUS of the Board

It was very gratifying to finally 'Wallow' in your piccies - put faces to all the illustrious names. Your commitment and continuous hard work is absolutely appreciated.


Sue FordeClick here to contact me
Perth, Western Australia
Saturday, May 25, 2002 at 08:35:59 (PDT)


Heather
thankyou, thankyou,
With all the doom and gloom in the world, that has to be one of the best feelgood articles I have read in a longtime,
I have mentioned before, my mother had an article on the Operation Noah, and some little girl got hold of it and used it for her school project !!..so many rivers in the world have been dammed, and the catastrophes that go with them are so unnecessary...so sad.......we can only learn from our mistakes.....
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 23:16:40 (PDT)


Northerners
I have been here all night trying to put my magazine together and am now ready ot go home, but I am just waiting for it to get light and thought I would scan a chapter from the book A Wilderness Called Kariba by Dale Kenmuir which was published in 1978. This chapter has to do with Operation Noah and I thought it would be of interest to you.

OPERATION NOAH !' - THE RESCUE

"This heralded not only a major step in this vast engineering project but also the commencement of the greatest environmental upset ever to befall a population of animals and birds within the African continent, in the history of man."
R. H. N. Smithers, 1959.

"Considerable publicity has been received from the activities of the game department in their rescue operations. A television film prepared by the B.B.C. and shown at peak viewing times created considerable interest in the U.K."


On December 3rd, 1958, the two sluice gates through which the Zambezi was flowing were closed. This was the moment of conception, and a new lake on the surface of the world was born. Growth was extremely rapid at first. In the first 24 hours the lake rose six metres. By September 1959 the lake had risen almost 60 metres. The closure of the dam wall in December 1958 marked the beginning of one of the greatest ecological upsets of an environment ever perpetrated by man. Apart from the 57 000 Tonga inhabitants, the valley harboured an immense wealth of wildlife and flora. At least 56 species of mammals were known to occur here, including nearly all the big game for which Africa is famous. Bird life was extremely varied and abundant. The presence of the disease-bearing tsetse fly had kept most of the valley in a pristine and primitive state, unchanged since earliest times. All this was to disappear forever under a deluge of water. The Tonga were removed before the flood. The game and other members of the animal kingdom were left to cope as best they could. Any efforts beforehand to remove game from the area would have proved hopeless.
Because of the nature of the Zambezi Valley, broad and flat with innumerable rocky kopjes and hills, islands began to form as the water rose. Some of the islands were large, and not destined to be covered by water. Others would disappear along with every living thing on them. By September 1959 about 150 islands had already been submerged. More would go as the water level rose another 125 feet over the next four years, reaching its maximum level in September 1963.
It soon became apparent that large numbers of animals were being trapped on the islands. Many of the species involved were conditioned to escaping to high ground when their habitat was flooded annually by the river. This time, however, there was to be no recession of the water.
The plight of the animals gave rise to a game rescue exercise which attracted the attention and sympathy of the world, and which became known as "Operation Noah". The operation, its participants and the adventure arising from this exercise have been well described in the books "Animal Dunkirk" by E. Robins and R. Legge and "Operation Noah" by C. Lagus, and have also been described in a chapter in Frank Clement's book "Kariba". However, since not everyone will have read these books, and since' 'Operation Noah" is an historic and conspicuous part of Kariba' s biological history, another brief description will not go amiss.
The first rescue operations of wildlife were undertaken by the Southern Rhodesia Game Department, of which Mr A. D. (Archie) Fraser was Chief Game Officer. The team, later led by Rupert Fothergill, started operations with two boats, the "Hilda Mary" and "Tess", in December 1958, and by the end of February 1959 had gained valuable experience and developed satisfactory techniques for capturing wild animals marooned either on islands or in the tops of trees. Initially, baboons, monkeys, genet cats, dassies and the smaller antelopes were caught in the water and presented no problems.
About this time the press began to give prominence to the plight of the animals, and public opinion began to exert pressure for increased effort in the rescue operations. The Leader of the Opposition in Parliament, Mr Aitken-Cade, also President of the Wild Life Society, gave notice of a private motion that' 'in the opinion of this House the rescue methods adopted by the Government have been, and still are, inadequate", but withdrew it when the Government, largely at the instigation of the Hon A. R. W. Stumbles, the Minister of Irrigation and Lands, greatly increased its aid. The Northern Rhodesia Government decided on a reconnaissance of the islands to assess the extent of the marooned animal problem, and was considering an offer by the Game Preservation and Hunting Association to mobilise its members as rescue volunteers.
At the beginning of March the hesitant attitude of the Northern Rhodesia Government in mounting a worthwhile rescue operation induced the Northern Rhodesian Game Preservation and Hunting Association (now the Wild Life Conservation Society) to try and enlist help from the Fauna Preservation Society in London. The appeal evoked immediate response from the Society, and a press conference was held in London on 19th March, 1958. Mi Reay Smithers, Director of the National Museums of Southern Rhodesia flew to London and attended the conference. As a result of the press conference, the Field published a most critical leader entitled' 'Four men versus the Scandal at Kariba Dam", and the plight of the animals in the flooded area was featured in many national and local newspapers in the two hemispheres. The appeal launched by the Fauna Preservation Society was for $20000 - needed to buy boats, outboard engines, camping and medical equipment. Subscriptions from the British public and elsewhere began to pour in, and engines and boats were purchased. Volunteers at the rate of eight per month were organised, and, in April 1959, serious rescue work on the Northern Rhodesian side began.
By September 1959, when the lake stopped rising so rapidly, three rescue teams were operating on Kariba as separate units. On the Southern Rhodesian side the team consisted of six game rangers let by Rupert Fothergill, one veterinary officer and 48 Africans. The Northern Rhodesian team, led by Tad Edelman, consisted of one game ranger, two European assistants, and 15 Africans. The Game Preservation and Hunting Association team, which augmented the Northern Rhodesian Government team, consisted of 32 volunteers with three 18-foot steel boats powered by outboard engines. With money raised from the appeal, an all-steel, 45-foot parent ship had been ordered. She was named the" Erica", after Mrs Erica Critchley, wife of Lt. Col. R. A. Critchley, President of the Game Preservation and Hunting Association.
By the end of October 1959, £ 19,000 had been raised and sent to Colonel Critchley's Kariba Rescue Fund. Both the Northern and Southern Rhodesian Governments had made provisions in their estimates for increased expenditure on rescue operations in the New Year. In addition, assistance in a variety of forms was being rendered by various societies, associations and individual persons.
The rescue work was hazardous. Submerged trees and stumps were a continuous threat to the boats, while on the islands and in the trees an unprecedented concentration of snakes of all types, including black mambas, added to the dangers facing the men. Rescue operations themselves involved a variety of hazards, particularly where the big game animals were involved. It was incredible, and complimentary to the men involved, that no lives were lost during "Operation Noah", although there were many narrow escapes. On one occasion a ranger, Frank Junor, was nearly killed by a buffalo. The animal charged straight for him before he had time to climb a tree or dash into the safety of the water, sinking its horn deep into his left leg. Tossed into the air he fell on to the animal's boss and was thrown skyward a second time, landing this time at the animal's feet. Before it could do any more damage two game rangers with him, Barry Ball and Len Harvey, succeeded in shooting and killing the beast, thereby undoubtedly saving his life. '
To give an account of the type of rescue work done by the Northern Rhodesian teams, I quote from an article written by Lt. Col. Critchley, which appeared in Oryx, journal of the Fauna Preservation Society:
"We went to an island, in the Simamba area, which was known to hold a herd of 20 to 30 impala. The island was about 300 yards long by 80 yards across, very stony and rising to about 35 feet above the water at one end. The vegetation had been grazed and browsed fairly heavily but was not eaten right out. About 100 yards of game nets which we had brought with us were erected across the waist of the island and several attempts were made to drive the impala into them. These were unsuccessful as the impala refused to face the nets, one duiker ram only being caught. The nets were then moved and set up at an acute angle with the shoreline, and impala driven into the funnel so formed. These were bound, ear-tagged and offloaded on to the mainland. Several more drives resulted in a total of 16 impala being netted the first day. We returned to the island the following morning, again lifted the nets and set them up in a similar position, but very close to the high end of the island where the impala had sought refuge. The rest of the herd were rounded up with comparative ease, only the very last animals taking to the water. Thus the entire herd of 26 animals was removed and some valuable lessons in the siting and erection of the nets learned."
Not all rescue attempts were as successful as this one, however. Frequently the sheer perversity and stubbornness of the animals resulted in a failure of the rescue attempts, and necessitated leaving the animals to their own fate.
In another part of the lake, for example, Lt. Col. Critchley describes how Tad Edelmann made three attempts to rescue three cow elephants with two small calves. Thunderflashes were used to try and frighten them off, but to no avail. The calves were caught and taken to the mainland, but had to be taken back again as they could not fend for themselves and their mothers refused to leave the island. During further attempts one cow elephant had to be shot in self-defence. The island was then left for a week. Another visit revealed that the cows had departed, leaving the two calves dead. Examination of the calves showed that they had been badly knocked about. The rescuers wondered if the mothers had mercifully killed them before they left the island.
Frequently the rescuers arrived too late, but not always, as for example when the rescue team reached an island which seemed to be covered with water to a depth of about half a metre. Investigation of the flooded island showed that in the middle of the bush were two small mounds of sodden earth, each about three by five metres in area. On these were clustered no less than five antbears, four impala, a bushbuck doe and her calf, two hares, two mongooses and some francolin! In the trees above, a party of nature's undertakers, Marabou storks, were patiently waiting for their meal. After an hour's chase in the mud and slush all the animals were caught and towed to the mainland.
It was surprising that birds also succumbed to the rising waters. Turtle-doves and the stronger flying birds flew off the islands but the sedentary species such as robins, waxbills and babblers remained resolutely on the disappearing islands, some so weak and emaciated that a flight to the mainland would have been impossible. Guinea-fowl and francolin, both strong fliers, were found to be so emaciated that it was surprising that they were alive. It was also discovered that guinea-fowl could swim when they had to. Where small predators, and even baboons or monkeys were present on the islands with birds, the latter were quickly eaten. Baboons and monkeys stranded on small islands quickly denuded the terrain of every conceivable scrap of food until a scene of complete desolation remained. Every scrap of grass was eaten, every stone turned, and turned again, in search of insects. Some baboons could scarcely run a dozen steps without falling over.
It was soon found that the ropes which were used for tying up the animals were too rough, causing damage and discomfort to the animals. An appeal was made through the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals for silk stockings for binding purposes. The response was overwhelming and a huge supply of stockings were found to be a vast improvement on the ropes.
Rescued animals, as far as possible, were put on the Southern Rhodesia side of the lake, where the Government had set aside two large areas as game reserves. These areas, Matusadona and Chete, were both well watered and ecologically suited to receive any animals rescued on Kariba.
By the end of July, I 874 animals on both sides of the lake had been rescued. By the end of December 1959 the Southern Rhodesian team had rescued over 2 000 animals of all descriptions. Amongst the more usual types of animals rescued, like the antelope, were many of the less obvious animals, including hares, nightapes, bushbabies, pangolins, honey badgers, civet cats, dassies, genets, mongooses, porcupines and squirrels. In addition, a total of 237 tortoises and leguaans had been removed to high ground, while over 100 snakes were supplied to Salisbury Snake Park. Another 60 had been preserved as specimens. Possibly one of the most renowned photographs of "Operation Noah" days was that of a game ranger (Frank Junor) in the branches of a tree, wearing nothing more than swimming trunks and gloves, trying to catch a black mamba with a noosed stick.
A number of birds had also been captured and released. Four saddle-bill storks, four goliath herons, five darters, one grey heron, fish-eagles, and two hammerkops were actually reared and then released. Although a variety of techniques were developed and used to rescue game, one animal in particular refused to be rescued by conventional methods, and posed serious problems. This was the black rhinoceros. Prolonged efforts to catch one stranded on an island failed. Nothing would induce the rhino to enter the water and eventually it was lost. As a result of this perverseness, and in view of the fact that more of these valuable animals would need rescuing, the wise decision to enlist the assistance of two veterinarians from Makerere College in Uganda was made. In due course, DrA. M. Harthoorn and Dr J. A. Lock, both experienced in the drug immobilising technique of capturing large mammals, were brought to Kariba to advise and assist in the capture of four more rhino which were stranded. The technique involved shooting a syringe carrying a specially designed reinforced needle into the animal. A special type of gun or cross-bow was used for this purpose.
On the 9th of May, 1960, the first rhino was stalked for several hours on an island, which measured about a kilometre long by half a kilometre wide, but the wily beast never presented a clear enough target through the trees, even at six metres. Eventually the rhino was driven past a marksman sitting in a tree, and the syringe carrying the dose of muscle relaxant was shot into its neck. Within 14 minutes the animal was immobile, enabling the tranquilliser to be administered and the animal tied up.
The rhino was then rolled on to a sledge and pulled down to the water, where a raft floating on no less than 18 petrol drums was awaiting the one-tonne load. The rhino was securely battened down by ropes and towed 19 kilometres to the mainland. Here the rhino was de-rafted on to a sledge, pulled up on to the land, fitted with a light plastic collar, ear-tagged and released. His first action, upon rising, was to charge his rescuers up trees and into the water!
The following month three more rhino were similarly rescued, although on this operation it was found that by using a larger dose of muscle relaxant, the animal could be immobilised within five to ten minutes. The administration of an antidote then ensured the animal's rapid recovery.
During the rescue of these three rhino an interesting observation was made.
Hitherto it had not been known for sure whether rhino could swim or not. It very soon became apparent that they could. Three animals, a female, male and a youngster were stranded on an island no larger than half a hectare. The calf and female were rescued, and then the male simply disappeared. Despite an intensive search of the island the male could not be located. Eventually, to the searchers' amazement, he was found hiding in the water with only his head showing. When a boat approached him the elusive fellow took umbrage, and swam 20 metres towards the boat in an enraged attempt to damage his pursuers. The young male also proved that rhinos can swim - in a rather spectacular fashion. As soon as he was released on the mainland, he charged into the water, swimming to the back of the boat, and attempted to destroy the engine. The effort was too much, however. He became very distressed, uttered a rather plaintive cry and swam back to the shore, where he rested for an hour, lying with his feet in the water.
During the remainder of 1960 another four rhino were rescued. There was only one casualty. This was a young female calf which ran into the path of the syringe intended for her mother, and thus received a fatal overdose of the drug.
When "Operation Noah" came to an end in June 1963 the total number of black rhino saved by the Southern Rhodesian team was an incredible forty-four. The number of mammals rescued on the Southern Rhodesian side amounted to almost 5 000 animals, involving 35 species of mammals. The total number of animals rescued, if one includes birds and reptiles, was therefore well over six thousand. On the Northern Rhodesian side far fewer animals were rescued, by virtue of their greater scarcity, but nevertheless by the end of 1961 when official rescue efforts came to a close nearly 2 000 game animals had been rescued.
Apart from the sheer satisfaction of rescuing thousands of animals from a miserable death by starvation or drowning, the two countries involved benefited tremendously from the publicity which the exercise attracted. At the end of 1959 the value of this publicity to the Federation was reliably estimated at more than $200 000, which far exceeded the cost of the operation up to that date. The eventual value of the publicity, which persists to this day, can probably be measured in millions of dollars. The exercise undoubtedly assisted acceptance of a new wild life policy in Southern Rhodesia, and of revised legislation. On the Southern Rhodesia side two new game reserves came into existence as a direct result of the operation.
The operation also provided a unique opportunity for biological observations and research on mammal behaviour, and played an important part in emphasising the necessity for the establishment of more research officer posts in the game department.


Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 20:30:04 (PDT)


Elias
Yes, Mrs Geldenhuys did pass away a few weeks ago - I don't remember exactly when but in the last two months. Eve married Wilf Frick (don't know if the spelling is right).

I also vaguely remember someone telling me something about Austin, but can't remember whether it was a plane crash or an argument with a buffalo or something like that. I shall see what I can find out for you.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 17:36:25 (PDT)


Doug Waybush
Doug, was it you that mentioned Austin Wienand a little while ago? I was sort of listening to some old-timers gossip and I heard that him and someone else crashed their plane in the Luangwa Valley and were both very seriously injured. Did you hear anything about that?

Tina Magee
Some more overheard gossip. Did your parents know old Mrs Geldenhuys when they stayed in Argyle Gardens? I also overheard that she died the other day. She was Chippies mum and I think her daughter married Frik (or Fritz?). The coin collector who worked for Rothmans. He was an expert on coins and could give you the value of any coin from any date off the top of his head.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 16:29:48 (PDT)


The Famous Garlick Family
Gordon, your tribe has really expanded from Kalulushi. Here is another one. Quite a stunner.
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JESSICA SEEKS EUROVISION FAME
Pop Idol finalist Jessica Garlick is hoping for success second time around tonight - as Britain's entry in the Eurovision Song Contest.

She is 7/2 joint favourite with Germany and Sweden to win the competition in the Estonian capital of Tallinn.

Garlick is hoping to grab the glory with the ballad Come Back, penned by Birmingham airline pilot Martyn Baylay.
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Elias




Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 16:17:10 (PDT)


BANBURY BASH ACCOMMODATION LISTINGS.

Below I have listed a selection hotels, B & B's and Guest Houses in the Banbury & Kings Sutton area.

1) Hotels:

Banbury House Hotel. 3 Star. 63 rooms. Tel 01295 259361 E. Mail: sales@banburyhouse.co.uk Room Rates: £ 43.50 - £ 97.00 p/person per nite.

PLEASE NOTE: I have reserved block booking of 15 rooms at weekend rate of £ 43.50 p/person per nite - 5 singles, 5 twin & 5 double rooms for next 2 weeks only so book early!!!!!!! Quote Great North Road Reunion ref Mr Brassington when booking and ask for Claire.

The Lismore Hotel - Banbury. 2 star. 23 rooms. Tel: 01295 267661. E. Mail: lismorehotel@aol.com Room rates: £ 40 - £ 80 p/person per nite.

Whatley Hall Hotel - Banbury. 3 Star. 72 rooms. Tel: 0870 400 8104. E.Mail: sales.whatleyhall@heritage_hotels.co.uk Room Rates: £ 50 - £ 155 p/person per nite. 17th Century manor hall.

2) Farmhouse B & B's:

College Farmhouse - Kings Sutton Village (venue of GNR Reunion). 4 Diamonds rated. 6 rooms all ensuite. Tel: 01295 811473. E.Mail: seallday@cs.com. Web site: www.banburytown.co.uk/accom/collegefarm. Room Rates: £ 36 - £ 60. Period farmhouse on edge of village set in own secluded grounds.

3) Guesthouses & B & B's in Banbury town.

Amberley Guest House. 2 diamonds rated. 10 rooms. Tel: 01295 255797 Room rates: £ 21 - £ 46. Traditional B & B.

Ark Guest House. Not rated - awaiting inspection. 7 rooms (most ensuite). Tel: 01295 254498. Rates: £ 30 - £ 50. Recently refurbished & extended townhouse.

Ashlea Guest House. 2 Diamonds rated. 12 rooms. Tel: 01295 250539. Rates: £ 23 - £ 62. Traditional style B & B.

Avonlea Guest House. 2 Diamond rated. 7 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 267837. Rates: £ 35 - £ 55. Traditional family run B & B.

Banbury Cross B & B. 4 Diamond rated (recommended). 2 min walk from town center. 7 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 266048. Rates: £ 25 - £ 55. Family room: P.O.A. Non smoking establishment. 400 yards from famous Banbury Cross.

Calthorpe Lodge Guest House. 3 Diamond rated. 6 rooms. Tel: 01295 252325. Rates: £ 28 - £ 75. 5 min walk to Banbury Cross (Town centre).

Cotefields guest House. 2 Diamond rated. 6 rooms. On edge of town towards Kings Sutton. Rural outlook. Tel: 01295 264977. E.Mail: tony.stockford@IC24.net Rates: 16 - £ 40.

Fairlawns Guest House ( Recommended - very comfortable). 3 Diamond rated. 18 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 262461. Rates: £ 39 - £ 55. 6 chalet style rooms attached to Edwardian family run home.

Fernleigh Guest House. 3 Diamond rated. 11 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 250853. E. Mail: a.cumberlidge@btinternet.com. rates: £ 28 - £ 75. Excellent service, food, good value. Non smoking.

Prospect Guest House. 3 Diamond rated. 14 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 268749. Rates: £ 34 - £ 50. 8 min walk to Banbury Town Centre.

Treetops Guest House. 2 Diamond rated. 6 rooms (ensuite). Tel: 01295 254444. E.Mail: pennybrain@hotmail.com. Rates: £ 22.50 - £ 65.










Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 16:13:51 (PDT)


GARY BRASSINGTON & BRIAN GEYSER
BANBURY BASH

Just when I thought I was having a reasonable day I read your recent posting that Brian and the Crusaders just might be having a reunion session at the Banbury bash - then my day came to a grinding halt. How could I possibly be missing such a long overdue event like hearing the Crusaders play again..

Well all I can say is, if the Crusaders do play at the Banbury Bash, you guys are in for a treat of a lifetime. Brian has just sent me a couple of CD's recently recorded by him, and if it is at all possible, he is better than ever at his musical talents.

I will be over in the UK in a couple of weeks time staying with Brian and Julia, so although I am missing the Banbury Bash I will l have the privilege of hearing Brian play and sing just for me.

Brenda

Brenda MeyerClick here to contact me
South Africa
Friday, May 24, 2002 at 03:03:37 (PDT)


Elias ...

Dad served time in Barlinnie learning the tricks of the trade. After leaving the RAF after W.W.2 he joined the Scottish Prison Service and was stationed at Barlinnie and the Saughton Prison in Edinburgh.


Ken

Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 19:34:23 (PDT)


Instant Justice Zambian Style
At last these wingeing Poms are realising the wisdom of African ways. This was taken from tonights London evening Standard. Alix, Heather can explain very well what "Instant Justice" is, if you are not sure.
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"Hit-and-run driver" beaten up

A 39-year-old driver speeding away from the scene of an accident has been beaten up after ploughing into passers-by outside a mosque.

The motorist had just had a minor collision with another car and asked the woman driver to pull over so they could exchange details. But then he sped off down an alleyway off Ilford High Street and crashed into a group of children and adults leaving the mosque.

The crowd was incensed and the driver was dragged from the car after its path was blocked by a black saloon and then beaten up.
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Johnny Green
Johnny, Barlinnie Prison is the prison of last resort where the really hard murderers, rapists, drug dealers are sent. Even the Prison staff are sent on special training courses before being posted there. They are also paid extra "Danger Allowances".
Still it would be a haven to avoid Heather on the rampage.
Regards
Elias


Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 15:02:39 (PDT)



Elias the girl is softening, if she does manage to make it to Banbury you had better be there, but there again it could be a sprat to catch a mackerel, the choice is yours but as a precaution I would take out some insurance against emasculation let us see what the next endearments are, she is very seductive, but I am in her good books I have never maligned this girl and in fact have invited her to visit me on her next visit to the UK but if the present trend of endearments continue we may witness a bigamous marriage in Dundee in September and maybe Mrs Pop will celebrate when you get locked up in Barlinnie only time will tell. Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 14:23:05 (PDT)


Elias
Hmmmm ... just a while ago, I was thinking it was time I started giving you some trouble again, but then I thought 'No, shame'. I think I shall have to change my mind.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 13:46:30 (PDT)


Linda
Just to get one over that Chalcraft Woman. The Service Provider is World Link Nepal and this is their address:-
wlink.com.np.

The other one was a bit tricky, I got as far as Tonga, with this address:- pointer@ah.to.
If Doug Waybush reads your message he has a sneaky tracer.
Elias


Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 13:00:17 (PDT)


Linda
.np is the country extension for Nepal. Root Zone WhoIs Information.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 12:47:50 (PDT)



Linda regards your enquiry NP maybe there is a country somewhere called Nipple Pink ? love Johnny, only trying to be helpful.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 12:29:32 (PDT)


Hi All:
Does anyone know a person with the email address of yaman-bk@hydroconsult.com.np or topjonjon@cwtv.net? I have received 2 viruses this week that have both originated from the first address here, but came through different routes to me. Anybody know which country has .np?

Thanks!

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 04:54:20 (PDT)


Lynn Szeftel

We would be delighted to see U and your partner at the Banbury Bash. Please let me know is definate and if U require accommodation to be booked? Maybe U could pack "That Chalcraft Women" in your luggage too. Please do not hesitate to contact me if U need and further info or assistance.

Other UK resident GNR's

There are still a number of U keeping quiet! We need to hear from U all - my next tactic will be to have the ELUSIVE ELIAS do mailshots to all who are resident in UK reminding U all of the event! We will leave no stone unturned!



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Thursday, May 23, 2002 at 00:08:30 (PDT)


Dear Northerners,

How about two Lusakans for the Banbury Bash? Think you could take it. Am planning a trip over so could incorporate Banbury in my itinery.

Cheers
Lynn(the other Lusakan)

Lynn SzeftelClick here to contact me

Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 11:20:05 (PDT)


John Green

Kings Sutton is about 4 miles outside Banbury towards Oxford. There is a train service from station to Kings Sutton and onwards to London Marleybone - if U wanted to go that far. Last train from village back to Banbury is 11.00 pm. Trains run hourly. Village hall is a picturesque 10 min walk from village station.

That Chalcraft Women

Glad U R back home safe - was great seeing U. Your reason to attend Sept bash is that U have to bring the melktert and sosaties special courier delivery to me! Your reward - an evening with me!

Gill Main

U have to migrate from cold of Northern Scottish Highlands to the warmer climate of Oxfordshire for nite of Sept 21st and attend the Banbury Bash! Bring that ELUSIVE GREEK Elias with U too even if U have to handcuff him!

Bridget Billany

Even though U have moved from Oxon. your presence is still required at the Kings Sutton Banbury Bash.

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 02:22:50 (PDT)


BANBURY BASH - Important Announcement

I have just finished a long & interesting telephone conversation with Brian Geyser of "The Crusaiders! band fame. All those who used to attend the Zambian sessions would know who I am talking about.

It may appear subject to further discussions between Brain with other former band members that they may get toger at the Banbury Bash for a one off Reunion session. This is still in the early discussion stages and is also subject to an entertainment licence being obtained for them to perform.

as our discussions progress I will post updates accordingly.

Linda Dore

Am I to understand U R attending the Banbury Bash.

I have also had an e. mail from Fiona & Graham Wall in Saudi - they will be attending for nites of 20 & 21st Sept. Graham (Scarscalp) U need to twist Ada & Chris Cantrel's arms to attend.

Fiona G

Think of a reason for Heather C to tell her husband she needs to attend! I did think she could say she needed to see me BUT I don't think he would accept that arguement!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 02:06:08 (PDT)



Gary how far is the village hall at Kings Sutton from Banbury mileage please? Thanks Pal, Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 22, 2002 at 01:53:33 (PDT)


Dawie
I've never had to beg a man for anything, but since Des had me down on my knees in Wallasey because I forgot the bottle of Mosi, I guess I can do it again.....

So I am down on my knees, begging and pleading.....and it's not a pretty sight, so please don't take too long.

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 22:31:19 (PDT)



My dear Linda my pension comes from that mecca of the currency world Johannesburg and if the hotel you are in contact with is the one that that wants £43 a night for bed and breakfast as you walk down the street in the hotel vicinity look for a cardboard box and toss a few coins in side it as you pass I will be very grateful as that will be my abode for the two days I will be in Banbury, sorry I will not be able to recieve visitors, Love and Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 21:05:24 (PDT)


FiFi
I am trying my absolute best this time!! Have already started a rapport going over emails with Claire and Elli at the hotel. They definitely know that we are fun loving people. This was part of her email back to me:

"We look foward to welcoming all 'you Northerners' to the Hotel. I have noted that all breakables should be removed from your rooms, the bar is to close early, and we are enforcing a 9 pm curfew.....he! he!!!

With kind regards
Claire
Reservations"

I told her since she has made the mistake of showing an ounce of friendliness towards me, she should expect to be invited for a drink or 12 with me while I am there. And I cautioned her if a certain Johnny Green tries to make a reservation, she should run for her life as he is the most spritely gentleman around for his age. I also said if he shows up with a pair of tap shoes in his hand, call security... he! he!

Tina
Email on its way to you.

Heather
Glad to see you back!



Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 17:48:35 (PDT)


Heather,

Jislaike I will never forgive you for giving out that tulip link!

By the way the Cafe Chris is my local pub. It opened its doors in 1624. Heather and I had many a drink there. Go to www.cafechris.nl for their web site. It is right below my window, where I sit now on this Amsterdam sundown.

It's hot here. I leave tomorrow on the TGV for the south of France to join up with Jacqui at the Grand Prix in Monte Carlo. I don't know when I will be back---it's the south of France, man!

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DvdB
Amsterdam

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 11:34:40 (PDT)


Alix,
"Blue Soap" is arfa's way of saying : "I've baited my hook - and I'm after BIG fish". That translates to : "I want someone on the GNR to bring out lotsa photos and write abour their experiences!" Arthur, in his youth was a big Vundu fisherman!

Not so young Arthur?

Regards


Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 11:33:18 (PDT)


Johnny

You see you ARE getting some strange artistic ideas. A vase is so much easier. Take the wig off dear.

4 singles left at Banbury House now. Linda haven't heard from you on travelling over since I sent you the trains link. Email me.

And U.S. residents think about this for the future. It is very sad we don't see eachother. I'll organise a Dallas bash if you'll come. Lots of nice places and accommodations an easy ride from Dallas International Airport. Wors, beers, music etc. no problem. We could do it spring of next year unless too many are saving for the Zambian reunion next year in which case we'll do it when everyone's recovered from that.

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 09:51:11 (PDT)


Botswana Tortoise aka Ian Meyrick
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Am sure people are now worried sick about you succumbing to a nasty bout of malaria and how quiet you have been since but am about to blow the whistle on you. How is it being a hotelier in Wales??? You are just scared that someone has arranged a gathering of the masses there. Will leave you to readjust to your new home, polish the ole shell etc. Do you know how many ex-GNRers live in Wales?? I would be very, very afraid! Hope everything is going swimmingly.

Ta Ta for now and go shake a leek!

Gill

Gill MainClick here to contact me
Aberdeen, Scotland
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 07:33:32 (PDT)


Heather
glad to see you arrived home safe and sound

WELCOME BACK

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 07:32:38 (PDT)


Sarks
funny haha..
ah well learned all about the Bison and Buffalo....and at least I wasn't the only one in the crowd..hey charlie!!!...oh and being an "adopted" broken hillian (thanks charlie) makes sence...giggles

oh and what sort is this blue soap..........

Alix


Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 07:14:33 (PDT)


Sarky
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When I suggested his new name, "Grotface Elias" and showed him a recent photie that Heather had posted, kitty took very great umbrage and high-tailed it out of his baby door at the speed of light, am sure he is still low-level flying over the Cairngorms as we speak!

I forgot to add names of the people that attended Joe's b/day party that I knew just in case people are trying to locate them.

Keith Jones, Nikki and Clare (his daughters)
Val and Len Fitzgerald and daughter
Don and Mona Gibson (stalwarts of the Rugby club)
Ronnie Lowe and wife, son and daughter (Rugby)
Andy and Ann Curran
Sylvia and Ivan Slaughter
Reg and Margaret Turner (whom I didn't speak to, it was a case of I know those faces but - if you are reading this I apologise profusely)
Last but certainly not least, Arthur Hughes, who is 71 and can sink Bailleys and Vodka like water at the end of an evening and still walk straight although I heard you didn't make it to breakfast, Art - and his daughter, Joanne.

And of course the Big Bwana himself Joe McGeoghan and Steph, daughters Christine and Jo, and son David.

Please excuse if I haven't listed names but me myself am getting older too!

Mark McDonald
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Know you have been feeling left out saying that you didn't recognise anyone on the Road - well I know you mentioned the Slaughters,their folks will be in Scotland next month - we have arranged to meet - was telling Sylvia about you looking for people so will get contact addresses and everything for their children and anybody else, e-mail me with a list. I really could have kicked myself as Jo was trying to contact your folks to get them to the party, if I had only known, Les and I could have picked them up in Edinburgh on the drive down. Also, the Currans keep in touch with the Chilcotts and Elliots.

Babs McLoughlin
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Looking good, gal. Were you the only Mufie to attend the Wallow???Will have to get the whip out again, only constant bombardment will get some of these people moving - you have to repeatedly hit them with pleading telephone calls etc. They take manyana to extremes.

Brasso
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Damn, Bridget Billany has now moved from Oxfordshire - I could have stirred up a "few" house guests for her. Bridge, you could have made a fortune, a tenner for each person present - I would have resided in the wendy house as you know how much I fell in love with it. We could have used Muf planning and made a killing!! Woodstock eat your heart out but would I???? Tee Hee.

As an end note, it truly is a small world. Jo, who organised the party moved back to Co Durham from Zambia, went for a drink in a local bar and met her now husband, Jason, who came from Chililabombwe!!!

TTFN
Gill


Gill MainClick here to contact me
Aberdeen, Scotland
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 07:13:02 (PDT)


LINDA

You're definitely coming to the Banbury bash? I won't believe you are coming until I see the whites of your eyes! Woooo hoooo!!!

HEATHER

My money is on the Vrystaat melktert although I'm sure Dawie's is orrite too!

GARY

I spoke to Clare at the Banbury House Hotel. I have warned her and told her to pass on the warning to other guests that Zambians really know how to party and not to expect any sleep! Oh my head aches just thinking about it!

DAWIE

You want me to book you a room? If so, when. Better pull finger if you're coming.

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 06:20:45 (PDT)


Northerners
I've been back in Lusaka for forty eight hours now and am still trying to get myself back into work-mode. Groan!!! But first some thank yous....

Dawie
Not only are you right about codeine (I shall be visiting my friendly pharmacist soon) but you are a perfect host and quite an artist too. Take a look - Dawie and his Tulip. Dankie vir alles en jy weet ek sal terug wees.

Arthur
Another perfect host and your wonderful wife, Trish, too. She certainly gets top marks for being so calm about having her home invaded by a bunch of NR/Zam plebians and a Bamba Zonke. The plants travelled very well and have been planted. But I am also warning you that I will be back again.

Craig
Just have to say this publicly although I already told you in private - I really did appreciate your making the effort to get over to the UK - it made my trip all the more worthwhile because if you hadn't been able to make it, my trip would have been incomplete. Thank you. And don't forget the eclipse in December or else I shall just have to make my way over to Vancouver.

Des
I have to thank you again. It would probably have taken me a lot longer to get off my backside and make that trip had you not organised the Wallasey Wallow.

Brasso
Now I'm trying to find a plausible excuse for another European trip in September - any suggestions? And Dawie and I decided that you need sosaties and melktert - I will be sending you the recipes shortly. The only question is whether Dawie's melktert recipe from the Cape is better than mine from the Vrystaat. And of course, we all know that sosaties taste better when the skewers are made from guava sticks. How you're going to manage that, I don't know.

Elias, the Nkuku
I have absolutely nothing to say to you!!

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 05:57:44 (PDT)


To whom it may concern... he! he!
Make that 4 single rooms left at the hotel. I have just snagged one room for the 20th and 21st. The lady was fast and furious on the other line with attendees making reservations when I called in, so you better get off the stick. FYI they are extending the rate to Friday as well, but do not have a block held. If you are coming in on Friday, you have to see if they have the room available.

Linda Dore Hayes

PS No, Johnny... I said SINGLE room

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 05:53:47 (PDT)


Virus alert

To the person who previously posted to me as Richman Njovu

I think this may not be your real name, considering the posting at the time, but just wanted to let you know that I received a virus from you yesterday. Your previous postings were from elephant102@hotmail.com and that is where the virus originated.

To those of you who may have received a warning about a virus called jdbgmgr.exe (or "the bear" virus) and given instructions to delete this from your system, be aware that this is A HOAX. jdbgmgr.exe is actually a legitimate java debugger program that comes automatically with Internet Explorer. The icon attached to it is a little bear, so when you check, of course you will find it in your programs.

However, if you see a 2X4 icon anywhere, start praying...

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:40 (PDT)


IMPORTANT NOTICE - ACCOMMODATION FOR BANBURY BASH - SEP 21ST

I have managed to secure for next 2 weeks only a block of 15 rooms at the "BANBURY HOUSE HOUSE HOTEL (3 star)" for rate of £ 43.50 per person Bed & Breakfast only.

There are 5 single rooms, 5 Twin rooms & 5 Double rooms held.

When booking (Mon - Fri 09.00 to 17.00 Hrs) ask for Claire - Reservations Manager on 01295 259361 and quote "Great North Road Reunion organised by Mr Brassington."

Claire has advised she can only hold these rooms for 2 weeks as they are very busy the weekend of Sept 21st!

If You need any further info or assistance e. mail me or telephone me on my mobile 07767 252302.

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 01:53:19 (PDT)



Dear Tina some of the girls I have known Tolstoy could have written War and Peace on them and others that skinny you would not have been able to get one verse from Confucious on them,
but I never thought about writing on them at the time my mind was usually elsewhere. Love and regards Johnny.
PS. If I ever get the urge to stick a red rose anywhere I will give you one guess where it would be especially if it had plenty of thorns on it I can see you winceing from here.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, May 21, 2002 at 00:55:25 (PDT)


Poetic Afterthought

Actually, Johnny, you can be like Baudelaire. They say he used to write poetry on the recumbent form of his mistress. I imagine people were falling over themselves to be his publisher. Can't you imagine it. "I've written a new poem for you to publish." (calls back over his shoulder) "Come in here, dear, and stand over there in the light".

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 23:33:02 (PDT)


Ken

Your posting was absolutely wonderful. What a treasure trove of memories and connections.

All these bush stories.... Sunday I was standing on a hill above a river looking down on what would pass for Mopani scrub and trying to explain to friends what it was like sitting on such a hill in Africa looking down on "little" elephants going down to the water at dawn. It was so much like a Zambian memory it made me heartsick.

Then there are all these buffalo and bison explanations of which we have had a bisonful but there's always room for a few more (like bad puns).

Diane, Guy

Wuverly Nkana Little Theater stories .... "that's my daddy!!!"
Guy - must've been sheer joy, getting to play all the villains. Never be theatrically inclined and tall in a girl's convent school. It's the equivalent of the men playing Widow Twanky in pantomime. I have the dubious honor in convent days of having played Thomas Becket in Murder in the Cathedral and Frederick in the Pirates of Penzance. However, later I did manage to get cast as a girl before I was scarred for life - Edith in a Lusaka Theater Club version of The Pirates.

Lusaka Theater Club was such a central part of life there to us. In childhood it was an occasion for gladrags and I remember (fondly) the smell of Dad's cigar in the car on the journey. Then the performance of friends in the cast would be discussed and (usually) lauded...

These pictures of Johnny in wigs bring up a lot of strange theatrical ideas. Incidentally it should be said any resemblences of Johnny in wigs to Little Lord Fauntelroy and Tiny Tim must be regarded as purely coincidental. Luckily his admiring audience don't seem to have seen that aspect of things. I did wonder if he was about to start writing classical poetry and holding a long-stemmed rose to his nose.

Tina




Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 23:11:02 (PDT)


GEORGE MAXWELL

Be a devil and wear the kilt!!!!!

Glenda Freeland (Fenwick)

Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 22:45:03 (PDT)


Diane Sewley .....

Saw your posting re the Kitwe Little Theatre, and reference to Alan and Adie Nixon. I believe I went to St Stephen's College in Rhodesia with their son Colin and his younger brother.

I was in touch by e-mail with Colin just over a year ago. He is in London and is a lawyer.

Alan Nixon , according to the 1964 "Who's Who" was the Kitwe Town Cllerk and the family lived at 10 Coway Crescent.

Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 16:08:45 (PDT)


Alix, Charlie

Charles - if you used the bison a little more when you were younger you would easily recognise the smell of blue soap.

You cannot wash your hands in a buffalo.

Thank you both for the information anyway - I saw on TV the International Wildlife Expo in Pretoria and the sale of the animals, mostly to game reserves. Glad to hear at least something is being done to keep these animals a step away from extinction.

Diane, Chris, Guy - My pleasure

Gill - welcome back ! - as your kitty will be having his whatsits removed, how about calling it after Elias.

Arthur




I have posted below another article from the Rhokana Reviews currently being scanned by myself. Some of these articles are maybe a little controversial these days, but I have decided to continue as they show how things and attitudes were from times long gone by.
There are many articles on all aspects of life from these days and I will continue to post them over time. Hope you all find them interesting.


ON THE TRACKS of big game

By Steve Herman

Who blames his hunting urge upon the life he led as a boy on a lonely farm in Southern Rhodesia. He now lives at 156 Kantanta Street Kitwe

A man, a gun, a star - how simple and clean is the hunter's world away from the perplexities of modern life. Whoever has been touched by the magic of the hunt, with its long treks through the bush by day and the peace of a crackling camp-fire at night will enjoy reading this article. The writer believes, and there are many who will agree with him, that there is nothing cruel about hunting if you use the right weapon and stalk close to your prey.

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One of the deepest pleasures in life for me is to study the habits of wild animals and birds. But I also delight in shooting game. Do not misunderstand me. I'm no biltong hunter or bulala-lamp destroyer - I believe that a hunter should have set principles. For example, I despise telescopic sights, heavy rifles and night shooting.

For heaven's sake, don't imagine that hunting is merely pressing the trigger at a long-range target! The true meaning is using a high-powered rifle, not larger than a 375 Magnum, and stalking close to your prey. In this way the animal has the same chance.

Hunting, in my opinion, is not cruel if you use the correct weapon. Many years ago I was accidentally wounded by my younger brother. Pain only came hours afterwards and I am sure that the same applies to shooting game. The initial shock paralyses the nervous system and the animal is barely aware of what is happening.

The Luangwa Valley is hot and full of tsetse fly. My first night there recently was spent some 500 yards from the Luangwa River near a lagoon, which, incidentally, was teeming with crocodiles.

That night, as I lay on my bed idly flashing my torch and counting the reflections from the unwinking crocodile eyes, I realised how indebted I was to the Game Control officials who had granted me a permit to hunt in that area.

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The next day I visited Chief Nsefu's village, and there I was called upon to conduct the funeral service of a young native woman. It was the Christian thing to do and I was glad to help. But that was not the end of it. Next I had people filing in front of me suffering with all kinds of ailments. An old woman leaped with the joy of relief after I had dropped some eye ointment in her eyes. Another vowed her chest was cured after sucking the remainder of my "Vicks Drops". Stomach troubles, cuts and burns - they were all in the order of the day, but the help I was able to give, paid dividends. Chief Nsefu did me the very special honour of providing me with six headmen to be my bearers, and his own son as the commander of the bearers.

My objective was "Big Game," but I also wanted to fill the village larder with meat. At the time of my arrival the whole area was in uproar about a man-eating lion, which had mauled a villager.

One of the game officials had told me about it previously. I was determined to get this lion, and put an end to the fear of the villagers.

The lion prowled around the camp at night, keeping the boys busy with their fires. There was always someone on guard every night.
One day, in the early hours of the morning when I was dreaming about the joys of the hunt, the watchman jerked my arm, and said: Listen to the Nkalamo Bwana!" Sure enough, only a mile or so away, there was a terrific fight taking place between the King of the Jungle and a buffalo. The bellowing and roaring continued undiminished for half an hour; then all was quiet again.

At sunrise, I quickly drained two delicious large mugs of coffee and set off in the direction of the fight by compass, only to come to a halt after covering about eight miles of hard going in dense grass. It seemed hopeless. On our way back my boy and I took a break for a smoke and I kept an eye open for vultures. To my relief I saw them circling about 600 yards away to the left. We immediately made for the spot.

When we were close enough to see the remains of the buffalo, instinct warned me to half circle the spot. It was just as well otherwise we would have blundered right onto a huge black-maned lion. He was laying peacefully in the shade of a tree ten paces from his kill, watching the hungry vultures devouring the remains.

I took careful aim, with the sun white and hot above me. The bullet slapped home. It was a well-placed shoulder shot. With a great bellow, the lion sprang high into the air, clawing and roaring in his fierce rage, taking cover near a palm tree. It doesn't give you a very comfortable feeling when you have to go after a lion, and as I circled closer to him I was ready for anything to happen. But the 300-grain bullet, which I had used, was too much for him and as he rose towards me he gave one hard cough, and, to my relief, dropped dead.

A hunter's day begins at dawn, with the morning star still close above the trees, and the soft smell of dew in the air. Every day I saw masses of game. There were numerous buffalo, impala, waterbuck, kudu, puku, wildpig and guineafowl by the thousands. Of course these were not all on my schedule.

One morning while I was enjoying that first delicious mug of coffee, an impala ram came walking daintily into the camp. The Boy looked at me and said: "Bwana lo nyama ena buya lapa wena". Well, what could I do? I had to take careful aim and squeeze the trigger. After all, the people with me were concerned with only one thing - fresh meat for the camp.

During the two weeks I hunted in that area I shot four big buffalo bulls. Two of them gave me no trouble whatsoever, but it was a different story with the remaining two.

The first buffalo I shot was one of four bulls grazing in a small dambo surrounded by thick buffalo grass. I selected the best specimen and waited for him to turn so that I could get my favourite shoulder shot. I squeezed the trigger and the buffalo fell on his knees. Within seconds he was up and disappeared with the others into the long grass.

Those of you who have been after a wounded buffalo will know how I felt. With his massive roll of horns and his determination to get even with you, he can be a very dangerous and nasty customer. I warned my Boys to look for safety and I followed very carefully the blood spoors. A little burnt patch in the grass gave me a clear view of the buffalo standing sniffing the air, waiting for me. I do not know who got the biggest fright but I suspect it was myself! As he lowered his head for the death charge, I fired. The bullet got in first and he dropped in his tracks.

Another morning, we set out very early and had covered about five miles with hundreds of tsetse flies buzzing about us, stinging and getting their share of our blood.

Suddenly, one of my Boys shouted: "Look, Bwana!"

Just in front of us was the huge spoor and fresh dung of a buffalo bull. We had only weaved our way a few more paces when the bull went crashing through the long grass, running in half circles. The only sign of him was the grass swaying as his heavy body pounded through it. Then, he halted sharply, looking towards us, for the tips of his horns were visible. I guessed that he was standing broadside on, and my best chance seemed a neck shot. I aimed as best I could, squeezed the trigger, and there was a most frightful bellow as the horns disappeared - an almost certain indication that death was near. I closed in on him, and when I was almost on top of him, he tried to bite at me. But he was dead a couple of seconds later.

Extracted from the Rhokana Review - May 1958




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This is an occasion when some females decided that I would look a little more attractive to them wearing a wig, my latest one is blonde and flowing I dont wear it lot as It has a devastating effect on women and even with my viagra I have a hard time keeping up with all the demands on me,

Love and Regards to all Johnny.






Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 14:18:01 (PDT)


Real or fake?

With all this talk I'm very glad that I decided not to wear a kilt at Wallasey. As for Banbury ... hmm, will I, won't I wear it?

George MaxwellClick here to contact me
Draughty Edwardian house in Edinburgh
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 13:31:26 (PDT)


Charlie,

We used to visit the Standers (from Philip street in Nkana-East) who bought Battlefileds ranch in the Nuanetsi region of southern Rhodesia. The road from Enkeldoorn to Beit Bridge in those days was all strip.

We were drtiving the old Open Kapitan down to Battlefields once and suddenly we turned a corner and my ma shrieked: "Oh, mij God! Kijk!" In front of us was heard of Cape Buffalo looking like we owed them a fortune!

We sidewined into the side of the bush and became stuck for hours on a broken off trunk that had pierced the side of the car. We remained in the car until the herd wandered off some time later and when a lorry came up behind us to help!

It was at Battlefields that my dad and Ben Stander and his volk would hunt Cape Buffalo. Wonderful braais and wonderful biltong. Adriaan and I, would only bag a few squirrels and doves under the kopje by the farm house while the real men went out into the bush.

Wonderful days around the Nuanetsi and Bubi rivers. Ben and Adriaan were shot by ZANU-PF guerillas or was it ZAPU? Gerda was left for dead, but later trekked through the bush to the next ranch to fetch the Rhodesian Army who came back and she stayed there, sandbagged, and vigilant throughout the war. Gerda died in Salisbury well after the war was over. Battlefields is marked on good maps of the area.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE vdB
Amsterdam

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 08:27:45 (PDT)


Nkana Kitwe Arts Society (Little Theatre)
It was really terrific to see the pictures of the Little Theatre. I was a member for 20 years from 1955 until I left in 1975. Chris was talking about a panto with Batman(Dave Pownell,now a well known playwrite in the UK) and Bobin (Rusty Maguir-Grey's brother)Errol Fyfe(Anglo) was the Dame and both Babara and Don Maguire had parts. I played all the villians, a grotesque Cat Women in a leotard, the Joker, the piddler and the Penguin. Like all the shows, and I was in,associated with backstage or directed over 100 shows in my stay, it was great fun and many a pint was sunk in the dressing room or in the pub afterwards. I still have a selection of pictures from the shows. I am also still in touch with a number of oldtimers including Gwynn Thomas, Nev Scott (of the beautiful tenor voice)Clive and Marcia Slaughter and quite a few more. Those really were fantastic days. I have a couple of Rhokana Reviews including one with Maz Griffiths on the cover in her MGTF.
Carry on with the good work, this is a great site and I have been able to contact about 40 people I knew some even from when I was a FKS.

Guy HobbsClick here to contact me
Tunbridge Wells, Kent UK
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 08:12:24 (PDT)


Charlie....Arthur
there are the Polish Bison too, they are very rare
They are on the endangered species list....
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 07:28:40 (PDT)


Arthur,
Did you request information on the difference between Bison and Buffalo? I know precious little about the Bison, but I’m pretty certain a major difference is “attitude”. It was either Robert Ruark or Ernest Hemingway penned the immortal words “A buffalo looks at you as though you owe it money!” I would add “A lot of money!”
Buffalo are from the Tribe Bovini. In Africa, there are three major species in the genus Syncerus. They are Syncerus caffer caffer: the Cape or Southern Buffalo, also referred to as a savanna Buffalo (this is the one that we NRs are used to) and weigh in at a hefty +/- 800 Kg . Syncerus nanus: the Dwarf Buffalo or forest Buffalo – found in the equatorial rain forest zone of Zaire, the Congo, Gabon etc. and the smallest of African buffaloes. Syncerus caffer aequinoctialis: the Nile Buffalo – found around Lake Albert, the Semliki Flats and along Western Uganda – lighter than our buffalo. Buffalo require plentiful grazing, shade and water – thus they don’t favour open grass plains, as they need plenty of shade and mud wallows to regulate their temperature. Thinking back on documentaries I’ve seen on the American Bison, it appears they favour the open plains. I’d think the Asian Water Buffalo (Bubalis bubalis) to be the nearest relative to the African Buffalo (has the genus/species ‘Bubalis bubalis’ anything to do with excessive drinking?)
Buffalo in the Kruger National Park are dying like flies from Bovine TB. As a result, an ex-professional hunter has started rearing buffalo calf on a farm at Malmsbury, jus outside of Cape Town. He’s using Jersey Cows as surrogate mothers, as their milk is as close as he can get to Buffalo milk. At the International Wildlife Expo in Pretoria, 508 wild animals were sold for a whopping R6.3 million (ZAR). A lion went for R225,000, a black impala (fast food?- I wonder if it had the MacDonald “M” on it’s backside!) went for R160,000 and a Hartmann zebra for R15,000. Significantly, 10 buffalo realised R115,000 each – they were obviously disease free.
Regards


Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 06:43:17 (PDT)


Brasso

Of course I will be at the Bigger Banbury Bash! I just assumed you already knew that!! And I hope you will be wearing your Ferrari shirt on Sunday....oops! hah! hah!

Gordon Garlick

You are right of course, but the debate still rages on. Enjoy the Indy 500, although I have to confess I am not an Indy fan - not yet anyway! However 400000 people in attendance on race day must be quite awesome!

Jacqui MilwardClick here to contact me
London
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 04:54:15 (PDT)


Ken Miller
Ken, you got the best part of your Dad's estate. The Memeories. I hope you will share some of those pictures with us.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 04:46:48 (PDT)


TREASURE ISLAND ......

I hit pay dirt a couple of weeks ago when I received a phone call from Greyhound Bus Lines here in Ottawa, advising they me that they had four boxes from Victoria British Columbia.

Upon reaching home,I placed my new found loot on the table.I opened the first box which revealed a treasure trove of family pictures going back to the early 1900's including our family's days in Northern Rhodesia going back to the late 1940's.

The other boxes contained articles that Dad had written about boxing and music. Programmes dating back to the last war, listed Mum as a young singer in Edinburgh, Scotland and then in N.R.. The pictures that I recently used in my missive "Wrestling in Zambia" came from my new found loot.

There are a couple of tape recordings, thankfully they had been re-recorded on casette tape of Dad being a host on a couple of broadcasts in the early 1950's he did on boxing and a broadcast of Mum preforming at a show from the Little Theatre in Lusaka.

Numerous books including "How to Box" written by my Dad were included ( Elias has a copy of this book ) A copy the 1964 "Who's Who" of Rhodesia,is a great resource, as it gives a brief thumbnail biography on the movers and shakers of the day.

I found my Treasure Island in four cardboard boxes.

Shortly after Mum died in 1994, Dad packed up his bags and sought a new life in Victoria, British Columbia. Regretably we became estranged and I never saw him again, and it was in April 2001, that I heard from his new wife Elisabeth that he had died. Elisabeth, had kindly sent me the treasure boxes.

Over the last couple of weeks,I have looked at photos, read articles, watched videos , however, it was on Saturday that I found the greatest gem of all. When Mum died, she was cremated and her ashes were dispersed. Among all the pictures was a picture of a sanctuary lamp. After a little further digging. I found that it was located here in Ottawa, in the Chapel of the Elisabeth Bruyere Centre where Mum had died. Dad, had arranged without me knowing to place the sanctuary lamp in the chapel as a memorial to my Mum, his wife, lover and best friend for over fifty years.Marlene and I visited the chapel Saturday morning and saw the sanctuary lamp for the first time.

I will always be indebted to Elisabeth for her kindness in sending me those four boxes, now so many parts of my past are complete.

Dad, we never did say our goodby, and despite what may have come between us, I never did stop loving you, rest well old man, you fought the good fight, and yes,you were always the best Dad in the world and my hero.


Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 04:24:55 (PDT)


Glenda Fenwick

Thanks for your e. mail. Ohhhhh 21 huh. I do hope U will be able to attend in Sept as 28th is my birthday (weekend after Bash) and Julie's is early Oct. Soooooooo the 3 of us would have a good reason to partaaaaaaaay!!!!! Tasha & Scott would be disappointed too - they thought U and Moo Moo were loveley!

Gill main

Hope you will be able to attend this bash in Sept as well. We'd love to see you here.

UK N. Rhodies

Be warned kind people! I am gonna get my assistants to be as persuasive as ever this time to see that we get as many as possible attending the Banbury Bash. It is more central for most of U Northerners & Southerners!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Monday, May 20, 2002 at 02:14:44 (PDT)


Arthur

I have had the photos developed!! They will be on their way to you tomorrow.

Glenda Freeland (Fenwick)

Gary

Will let you know in the next few days!

Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 22:07:17 (PDT)


Yellow Fever

From NZ to Zambia we did not require a yellow fever vaccination, (we last travelled to zambia 1999). Did not require one to re-enter NZ either.
We did need a yellow fever certificate to enter Tanzania, but these certificates were readily available on the black market at borders!


helen chilesheClick here to contact me
New Zealand
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 21:49:07 (PDT)


Arthur

Thanks so much for the article on the Little Theatre. I was delighted to see my parents, Frances and John Longman, in one of the photos. Sitting in the front row of the photo were my parents best friends Adie and Allan Nixon.

One of my mothers favourite stories about the Little Theatre was of taking me to see a show (South Pacific I think) as a little girl of about 4 or 5, and as my Dad came onto the stage I shouted out at the top of my voice "Thats my Daddy". Apparently it brought the house down!

Thank you for the memories Artie.

Diane

Diane SewleyClick here to contact me
Bristol
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 13:58:06 (PDT)


TO ALL THE WALLASEY ATTENDEES.

Thanks for all your kind messages, it was great to have everyone there.I agree, the food and the beer were superb, however, there was one ingredient that made the night.
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Thats why you must allllllllllllllll attend Gary`s bash in Banbury, remember if your not there we will probably talk about you.
There are no excuses.

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 11:49:12 (PDT)


Hi Peeps

Very long time no post -me thinks the last time was in January. Have been taken up with matters not germane to the Board - don't worry Elmo the kitty is just about due to be "snipped", am thinking of changing his name to Germaine then anything goes!!

Loved the photies of Wallasey, only wish I could have been there. Sarky and Mo: loved the picture of you guys being reunited - am sure loads of happy tears were shed, the piccie says it all - great stuff.

I was AWOL because I was attending a surprise 70th birthday party for a very dear family friend, namely Joe McGeoghan, from Muf the weekend after. It was superb, Jo, his daughter, had managed to keep it a total secret and he was totally "gobsmacked" when familiar faces started to appear out of the woodwork. For once, I think Joe was totally lost for words and jokes!!!! It was a brilliant weekend.

One question about the "Wallow in the Wirral", Bwana Green, were you drunk? When everbody else was doing the Bantu Conga why were you doing the Limbo???

Luv Ya All
Gill










Gill MainClick here to contact me
Aberdeen, Scotland
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 07:29:33 (PDT)


Lydia Beck

Wotz this! Not comming to Banbury Bash all "attendees have a good time" - Oh NO! It is a GNR tradition that all attendees at previous Bash (i.e Wallasey) must attend the following ones! Bit like a snowball - starts off small & gets bigger as ball keeps rolling. Sob - I will be most disappointed if U & JR are not attending in Sept. Soooooo much still to catch up on!

Other Wallasey Wallowers

I presume we can expect the honour of your company at Banbury as well. I already have a number of people confirmed as comming on Sept 21st. The following Wallasey Wallowers are requested to confirm their attendances:

The Fenwick Ladies; Scarscalp & Family, Ada & Chris Cantrel, Andy Torrance; Tom Butler; Rob Hamilton; George Maxwell, Jacqui Milward, Dave Cooper; sandy Hills, Barbra McGloughlin; Mark Bennett, The Forbes family & Pappy & Shirley papier. Other unnamned person in attendance at wallasey have already confirmed their comming to Banbury. NEW ADDITIONS TO THE REUNION FAMILY ARE WELCOME TOO..... the more the merrier.



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 06:59:51 (PDT)


Feeling horny.....

Mum, although she learned to drive, prefered to leave the driving to others, and would only take over the controls of our 1956 blue volkswagen if it was deemed necessary.

Having driven from Woodlands, down the Ridgeway, making a right turn onto Church Road, she headed towards Cairo Road, constantly checking her rearview mirror, and ever concious of her speed, crossed the bridge over the railway tracks, and upon reaching Cairo Road, stopped at the trafic lights, when to her utter horror and consternation she stalled the car.

Traffic quickly started to back up Church Road as she struggled to restart the stalled engine. Just as she reached the end of her rather short tether, it happened, the gentleman in a vanette at the rear of her, started to incessanlty lean on his horn and continued blasting away for all the good citizens of Lusaka to hear his call off anguish, on having to be delayed because of an inept female driver.

A fuse blew, Mum, extricated herself in a slow deliberate manner from the trusted 1956 blue Volskwagen, closed the door gently and walked seductively towards the happy horn blowing blowhard, looked deep into his eyes and said demurely " I'll hold that thing down for you, if you would kindly start my engine". The blasting ceased and Mum returned to the car.

On entering the car, Mum looked into her rearview mirror to ensure her makeup was in place, and lit up a Matinee before attempting to start the ignition. As the engine roared to life, Mum enthusiastically waived a reversed victory sign to her new found friend and made a right turn onto Cairo Road continuing her journey.

Years later, when looking through pictures in the Highway Code handbook, I was unable to find the reverse victory hand signal, and asked my driving instructor if he was aware of this particular signal, to be told that it had to do with sex and travel. Mum was always a good communicator and when words failed, her hand gestures would always convey her meaningful message.

Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Sunday, May 19, 2002 at 05:00:38 (PDT)


Wallasey organisers

would just like to say,thanks for great time 2weeks ago will never forget it,tried to redo event in village this weekend,3.30 was latest could do,nearly 2am now still unable to produce tumor,must be slacking.have decided better join the AA`s though not good enough,will let you know how I get on.sorry if mistakes in this message but the brain is working at very slow pace at moment,turned to drink to block stress out,seems to be working.
will soon be departing from the internet,thinking of starting new life,so will say my goodbyes now,and hope to see you all again some time in the future.All have great time at Banbury wish could be there.
Take care love to you all.



lydia BeckClick here to contact me
Coningsby Lincoln uk
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 17:56:39 (PDT)


Flying Wizards Traumatize Zambians
Specially for our Broken Hill/Kabwe members and Brasso. Taken from a recent press publication.
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Over thirty naked people thought to be wizards "crash-landed" on rooftops of houses, institutions, and filling stations in Zambia last year, bewildering the population. The most recent incident happened on New Year's Eve when one of the wizards crash-landed in Kasanda, a mining township near the midlands central town of Kabwe.

The "wizard" sustained body and knee injuries from the impact that eventually proved fatal. The suspected wizard - believed to be in his 50s - reportedly fell on the roof of a house owned by Christopher Muwowo in the middle of the night, startling the sleeping residents of the home.

Muwowo, a minibus driver, was awakened along with other members of his family by a loud bang on the roof. The man's wife ran out of the house and was stunned to find a naked man kneeling on the doorstep. She yelled for her husband. Muwowo hurried to his wife and asked the man what he wanted at such a late hour. The man simply said "kuku", meaning please help. He was not able to speak after that until he was taken to the police station in Kasanda. "Cases of witches and wizards crash-landing are rare in Kabwe but very common in Lusaka," said one neighbor.
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Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 15:09:37 (PDT)


Ok 2 weeks and still recovering.
Would like to thank everyone for an exellent evening, Des the organisation was superb, the food was out of this world.
I have not had a night like that since Zambia.

Stuck for words still all i can say is fantastic.

Ken (Kenneth) HamiltonClick here to contact me
Plymouth, England
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 14:01:07 (PDT)


JACQUI MILWARD,
When they all cry for poor Rubens just remember on what account his pay check is drawn on and how much it is. Ferrari probably pay him $12,000,000 a year and for that pay he had better pull over. Have a great time at the Monaco GP. I wish I could go there, but don't forget to tape the Indy 500 the same day. The greatest motor race on Earth. Over 400000 people in attendance (250000 permanent seats) and all sold out. This years event promisses to be the best in years.
Regards Gordon

Gordon GarlickClick here to contact me
Aberdeen, New Jersey. The United States of America
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 13:37:57 (PDT)


Sarkyarthur

Don't worry - Julie am sure would be delighted to do the chasing. She just wants a dance and a cuddle with U! i shall however, even though bust playing host, have my "observers" at the "Banbury Bash". Am delighted that U and the family were able to spend time with Mo after so many years apary. U deserved the treat good friend! Thanks DK!

Elusive Elias G

This time there will be NO excuses - your presence at the Banbury Bash is a definate! The committee will NOT accept any escaping this time!!!!!!!!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 12:15:27 (PDT)



Arthur I was priviliged to be there when when Mo crept up on you and put her hands over your eyes I haven't seen a lot of poignant scenes in my life time but that one will remain in my memory for ever as I am sure it will remain in yours and Mo, and it could not have happened to a nicer guy.

You are still not off the hook for falisfying photographs, wait until Banbury. Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 11:23:13 (PDT)



Chris please let us know the result of your Lure 2000, which river was it on, who was the winners, and what catch sizes, Species, poundage etc, we are all interested. Johnny.
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I have sent Arthur a pic of me with one of my old wigs I dont know for sure about Maxwell but my money is on it been genuine so girls you can stroke it with confidence at Banbury, I was told rather impolitley to put my cap on at Wallesey because the light reflecting off my bald head was
blinding a certain young lady but she did give it a kiss when she had consumed around 12 heavy drinks, if that is what it takes to get her to kiss my head what is it going to take to get her into a state when she may kiss my lips, I am not a rich man but I am saving every penny for Banbury in hopes, Regards Johnny.



john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 11:01:45 (PDT)


Hi All

www.nrzam.plus.com has been updated

Added Part D of Agricultural Survey Commission Report 1930-1932 - see Miscellaneous. Lusaka to Broken Hill and Kalulu.

Also to Ken Miller's section, a new area entitled "Ken Miller's Tales. Has a piece about his boyhood in Kasama and also a report on wrestling in Zambia. Both these items first appeared on the Great North Road Message Board.

Regards Ian

Ian SingerClick here to contact me
Livingston, Scotland
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 09:50:28 (PDT)


Arthur, thanks for the article and photos on the Little Theatre. I used to go there with my good friend Gray Maguire. His parents Don and Barbara were well known and heavily involved in a number of productions. Gray and I would be assigned to moving props and helping with the spot lights. Guy Hobbs was a memorable character as well. The pantomimes were always a good laugh.Not sure if it was a pantomime or not but I have fond memories of this Batmobile on stage which was supposed to be the Bat Car for Batman & Robin but it was shaped in the form of a Vat 69 bottle.

Chris FordeClick here to contact me
Perth Aus
Saturday, May 18, 2002 at 07:56:11 (PDT)


Arthur
I forgot to add the Cape buffalo is of a different classification ...the cape buffalo is of the classification:Syncerus caffer
both are from the family Bovidae (that is the Buffalo of American origin and the Cape Buffalo)

Alix


Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 19:54:49 (PDT)


Arthur
Buffalo and Bison in Northern America are of the same species...Classification :Bison bison bison
They can be named either or...
hope that is of help to you
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 19:46:41 (PDT)


Northerners !

Sadly my little sis is now winging her way back home to Brisbane as I write. To say these recent few days has been an overwhelming emotional experience for me is an understatement. My daughter Judith has met her aunty for the first time, my brother lives in Majorca and flew over for a few days to spend some time with us too as soon as he knew Moira was in the UK - seven years since I saw him and his wife - twelve years since Mo and Mark saw each other, so the Wallasey bash has been a true reunion in more than one meaning to me and my family.

Thank you all who made this possible, you have made a marker in our lives we will never forget.

Wallasey Bash photos continue to drift in by email and post. I will give the stragglers another week or so to come in and then finally post the best all in one go.

With reference to the "follicly challenged" I heard from a reliable source that both George Maxwell and Johnny Green spent over an hour preparing their hair for the bash, unfortunately Johnny found he had left his behind when he arrived at the do and George swept up the prize for the best kept rug. Now I know why George wanted that GNR cap so badly.

Glenda - have you finished your film yet ? - I now think I know what the Fenwick sisters party trick is that Linda mentioned, could it be anything to do with their tongues (and my wet ear)? Glenda - No photo vetting allowed.

Brasso - if your wife chased me she would have no trouble catching me, I can't run fast anymore and I would let her catch up anyway. I will keep in mind to make you very busy at the Banbury Bash serving beer or something while I do a little running round, please also bring Julie along.

Dawie - have your spleen and liver removed - you will have no trouble with such dread diseases anymore, yes I also thought the South African site on the YF immunisation the best. "Read Home Products". The radio links are a baladdy good find and it looks like the site has only been around for a few months with more updates and material to come! I am downloading all the soundbites later this week.

Johnny - I also remember the Pye brothers you mentioned also some other TV wrestlers - Jackie Pallo, Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy, the first two were invincible until they tagged teamed together versus Big Daddy - he just climbed up the corner post and pancaked down on them both and won by a KO - I think Big Daddys name was Shirley something - some big girl hey.

I have been requested by someone interested in the cattle/bovine species to ask if anyone can help - does anyone know what is the fundamental difference between the Bison and the Buffalo - apart from their continental separation?



Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 16:25:31 (PDT)


The Nkana Kitwe Little Theatre

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THE story of the Little Theatre is a fascinating one, because it is, at present, quite unique in Northern Rhodesia, and because it represents the culmination of a long struggle on the part of a comparatively small group of people in Nkana-Kitwe.

There are, and there will continue to be, those people living here who used to enjoy either making or watching live theatre in their countries of origin, or singing in choirs or attending concerts. These people feel these things are worth doing because they satisfy something deep in us which can not really be explained: They are part of a somehow finer degree of living, and in these days of everything potted and canned, it is becoming more and more apparent that they are a necessity to the 'good life'.

In Nkana-Kitwe that other necessary ingredient of the 'good life', sport, is well catered for, and as highly organised as anywhere in the world.

This is as it should be, but 'culture', if we must use the word, has always been rather a 'Cinderella' because, with a transient floating population, there has been the feeling that this was a mining camp from which one had 'leave' to visit the civilised parts of the world. Note that the word is 'leave'- not 'holiday', which one uses in Europe or South Africa. In the last few years, however, there have been signs of more stability. People still talk of 'leave', but because it is a habit.

There are permanent settlers here, and there is no surer sign of this than the Little Theatre. We are now concerned to see if we can sprout our own 'culture'.

The Little Theatre is a theatre in miniature. It is perfectly equipped, and is designed so that everyone in it can see and hear perfectly. It is more than a theatre; it will be a miniature concert hall too. The acoustic properties of the auditorium are adjustable. The seating capacity is 246, which ensures absolute intimacy.

For certain types of concert it will be possible, as is customary in the large concert halls, to seat people in cheaper seats behind the artist on the stage. The architects considered the number as the maximum which could be seated in the auditorium with the financial resources of the owners. Any increase over this number would mean a different type of auditorium design with a big increase in cost.

The stage is very large indeed, being 45 foot square with a 30 foot high grid in a stage tower for two-thirds of this space. The proscenium is 24 foot 8 inches wide-slightly smaller than the old Rhokana Cinema before it was altered. Opening off it are two dressing rooms, a workshop, a wardrobe and a concert piano store. The area in front of the main curtain is flexible: it can be orchestra pit, flat apron or stepped apron, according to what is going to take place. There are proscenium doors giving access to the apron stage or orchestra pit.

The agitation for a Little Theatre first started some three years ago when Arthur Lewis suggested to the Repertory Society that it was time that a Little Theatre project was started. Everyone thought how marvelous it would be but nothing was done until the N.R.D.A. drama festivals began to take shape, and other centres began to think along similar lines. The Roan were the first in the field, and Charles Thomas, of the British Drama League, who was here adjudicating at the Festival, heaped more coal on the fire. The old Repertory Society then called a meeting with other societies in the town who needed a home of their own, and out of that was born the Arts Association, an association of these groups to sponsor a Little Theatre project. The Operatic Society supported this very strongly, as did the splinter group, now the established choir. The Music Club, one of the oldest societies in the town, going back to 1936, also threw in its lot, as members were finding it increasingly difficult to hold recorded music concerts in their own homes, and in addition this Society felt it should encourage more live concerts than it could do at that time. All were keen to preserve their identity, and it was not until recently that it became obvious that to amalgamate into one strong body was really in the interests of all.

The big problem (as it always is) was to find money ... big money. All sorts of schemes were explored to find either an old building to convert, or a prefab. A site was a big headache, as the Kitwe Municipal Council were unable to make one available in the near future, and even if they could, it would have made the scheme financially unworkable, with the high cost of land, and high rates. The Rhokana Corporation was approached, at first unsuccessfully, but eventually the present site in Kantanta Street was donated. This was a big step forward, and with large amounts of equipment and prefabricated buildings going at low prices in the Bulawayo Exhibition sale, the idea of buying the old Carousel nightclub was put up by the Arts Association. Quite where the money was coming from they didn't know, but Harry Lonsdale and others found enough guarantors to make the scheme worth investigating.

Rhokana Corporation engineers looked at the Carousel and decided it wasn't a proposition to move it, so the Arts Association made up its mind to build a new building. Horace Williams and Partners undertook the design in an honorary capacity, and a scheme was evolved.

The committee decided to build as much as it could with available funds, and then add as more money came in. The Lottery made a handsome gift of money to get the ball rolling, and much material was donated and scrounged-and so the building was taken up to slab level.

It was at this stage that Rhokana Corporation decided to lend more help to move the building on to completion, and the Lottery again made a large donation. This, together with money given by Foundation Members and funds from many activities of the Arts Association member societies, made the present state of affairs possible.

The last 'flap' to get the building open for the visit of His Excellency, Lord Llewellin, on August 2, is a dream now to those most intimately concerned with the building project and administration.

The Executive Committee of the Arts Society Council found themselves caught up in a whirl of quick decisions and rapid meetings. Len Jackets and Barbara Moth, Charles Moth, Lawrie Atkins, Linda Lonsdale and Arthur Lewis are now wondering what they did with their time before it all started!

The four committees responsible for planning the activities of the Society worked out what each would do at the opening performance, and the casts set to with a will.

It should here be explained that about four months ago the four constituent Societies of the Arts Association decided to amalgamate into the Arts Society (Co-operative) Ltd. The Co-operative Ltd. merely means that the Society is registered as a limited company under the Co-operative Ordinance. It is the cheapest and simplest method of becoming a limited company. The Society is governed by an elected council of Officers and representatives of the committees responsible to the members for organising the four main activities of the Society, namely drama, musical plays, music and a choir.

Any member of the Society can take part in any of the activities or others if more start.

On August 2 at 4 p.m. Mr. 0.B. Bennett officially opened the foyer door with a copper key. In his speech Mr. Bennett paid tribute to the band of people who had pressed on with determination to this day. The large crowd then inspected the building and had tea outside. In the evening Lord Llewellin, accompanied by Miss Llewellin, unveiled a plaque in the foyer marking the opening ceremony in the afternoon, and His Excellency congratulated the town on its Theatre in a witty speech.

The performance consisted of a one act play, 'Me and My George', a film 'Instruments of the Orchestra', some songs by the choir and 'Trial by Jury' by Gilbert and Sullivan. During the interval the audience patronised the open-air bar, which was complete with fairy lights and braziers.

What of the future? The Society hopes to complete the building, and build its bar before the rains, though at present The Green Room or Club Room, will have to wait until finances are stronger.
From the production side, the first full-length production will be a play, the comedy 'White Sheep of the Family', followed by 'Private Lives', the Society Festival entry. Then in October the Operetta "Patience" will be staged, followed by a play, a 'thriller'.

There will be several concerts of different kinds arranged by Music Committee before the end of the year, and the Choir Committee announce that they are planning a series of Sunday evening concerts. At Christmas the Society is planning another Pantomime 'Cinderella', as a family show. This will be produced by Arthur Lewis and Stanley Edwards has again written some most attractive music.

The Society still needs members. Have you anything to contribute to help make the Little Theatre a going concern? If you can act, sing, or like messing about with paint or making things, or just enjoy the theatre, get a form from the Society, Box 546, Kitwe.

Article extracted from the Rhokana Review, September 1955.




Driving 1,500 Miles in the Ndola Car Rally



The Ndola Car Club was formed just over a year ago. Last year a 1,000 miles rally was held over Rhodes and Founders weekend. The rally was more of a family affair and involved overnight stops. This year an energetic committee ably organized a rally over 1,500 miles of Northern Rhodesian roads with no overnight stops.


In organizing a tougher route, with a no-rest aspect, the N.C.C. produced something well worth driving in, and carrying real prestige for all drivers and cars.

The rally attracted an entry of 41 cars. These were divided into capacity classes: -

Class A (up to 1200 c.c.'s), Class B (1200 c.c.'s to 2000 c.c.'s), Class C (over 2000 c.c.'s).

The outright winner was the entrant who obtained the highest aggregate marks irrespective of class. The award was the Frank Owen Cup and £200 cash. Class winners were awarded a tankard and £50 cash. In addition there were awards for team entries, ladies awards etc. In all, a glittering array of prizes totalling £600 cash, along with cups and tankards, served to attract entrants.

The object of the rally was to test the reliability of the cars entered over 1,500 miles of Northern Rhodesian roads under strictly observed conditions and to test the skill of the drivers over these road sections and in specially designed tests.

Our entry to the rally was a 1954 (new) Ford Prefect, the co-driver being Lou Harris. For two or three weeks beforehand we made preparations, trying to think of everything that we and the car would need.

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The car was fitted with a map board and lights, and provision was made for carrying a reserve stock of 18 gallons of petrol. We were told that petrol was available, but we were advised to take a spare supply, as no allowance would be given if petrol supplies were not available.

Sixteen cars were entered for Class 'A' (under 1,200 c.c.'s). These consisted of two Prefects, two Anglias, eight Volkswagens, three Morris Minors and one D.K.W. One of the Morris Minors was scratched.

The average speed over almost all road sections was 36 m.p.h. for 'A' class cars while the average speeds for classes 'B' and 'C' were approximately 40 and 44 m.p.h. respectively.

Class 'A' started from the Municipal Offices, Ndola, at 1.30 p.m. on Saturday, July 9, leaving at 3 minute intervals.

We were fourth off so that we started at 1.39 p.m. The first road section, for which we were allowed 12 hours, was to Mkushi River via Lusaka. With one minute's grace, this meant we had to arrive between 1.38 and 1.40 a.m.

We soon found that we were going to have plenty of time in hand for any unforeseen trouble by cruising steadily at 40-50 m.p.h. In fact, after checking in at Lusaka, we were able to telephone home to tell our wives that we had at least travelled 215 miles safely!

We then started travelling north, back to Kapiri, where we forked right along the Great North Road to Mkushi. We arrived one mile from the Control Point at just after midnight, which left us about an hour and a half to wait before checking in.

One mile before each Control Point was a board stating the fact and this was most useful as the mileages given were certainly very approximate.

During our one and a half hour's wait we thought we would brew up some tea on the Primus stove. This stove proved very easy to light before we left on our trip, but needless to say, it chose to be temperamental and after three quarters of an hour of battling our efforts proved vain and we had to be content with lukewarm coffee from a thermos.

At 1.36 a.m. we moved off at 20 m.p.h. to check in at 1.39 a.m. After running a mile we could see no lights to indicate the control.

I vaguely recalled a small turn-off about half a mile back, so turning the car around quickly we found the turn-off and careered madly along a lane which appeared to us to be about 6 ft. wide and lined with anthills and rocks.

The control point was indeed along this turn-off, but we clocked in at 1.44 a.m.-four minutes late -40 points off.

Our tempers by this time were not of the best and, in angrily jerking on the hand-brake, the cable parted and we were left with no hand-brake.

Nevertheless, after a 15 minute break to fill up with petrol, at 4s. 5d. a gallon, we moved off at 1.59 a.m. vowing to lose no more marks!

The next section was to Mpika, only 205 miles away, and we were due to clock in at 7.29 a.m.

We arrived just outside Mpika at 6.30 a.m., where we were able to wash ourselves down and get some of the dust out of our clothes and hair.

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We checked in without loss of marks although here we were a minute early.

We moved off on the 250 mile stretch to Tunduma, Tanganyika at 7.43 a.m. This road climbed through the hills just North of Mpika and in fact, the whole section was quite picturesque and we enjoyed watching the landscape forever changing as we travelled along.

By this time we were getting well set into our routine of two hours driving apiece at an average speed of 43-45 m.p.h. Whoever was navigating at the time would warn the driver of what to expect in the next 90 miles and then doze off for an hour. In this way we managed to keep alert for our spells of driving. We had half an hour rest before checking in at 2.36 p.m. at the control point at the Custom's Barrier.

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We were permitted to pass through the barrier to Tunduma where we filled up with petrol and then went along to the rest house where we had tea and a very welcome wash. This was our first hot drink since leaving Ndola the previous day and as such was exceedingly welcome.

After an hour's rest we moved off at 3.36 p.m. for the section to Kasama via Abercorn. The road to Abercorn was bad, by any standard, and really no wider than one car's width. Just after dusk we approached a long hill. The road surface at this point was corrugated with a loose sand covering. Unfortunately we had just stopped to change drivers and we were unable to get our speed above 30 m.p.h. By the time we checked in at the Abercorn Arms Hotel we were only just ahead of our target average speed. We had no time to stop at what looked like a very pleasant hotel, but had to take the road to Kasama (it was now about 7 p.m.)

We left Kasama at 10.28 p.m. en route to Chembe Ferry. The road was fairly easy and we arrived at Fort Rosebery at 7 a.m., where the proprietor of Crystals Garage had volunteered to be open for petrol, coffee and sandwiches. From there we took it easy to Chembe Ferry arriving at 2.30 a.m.

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We crossed the river outside rally times and left Chembe at 7.21 a.m., on the road across the Pedicle to Mokambo. Most readers will know this road, so that they can judge what the rest of the roads were like when I say that the Mokambo road and the subsequent deviations on the road to Kitwe and Ndola were the worst stretches we encountered.

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By making good time to Kitwe we had time to spare to enable us to call in at home and have a quick wash before travelling through to Ndola. Our wives went ahead of us to see us clock in there right on time-at 11.47-exactly 46 hours 8 minutes after leaving on Saturday afternoon and covering about 1,550 miles.

Immediately after checking in, each car had to undergo a braking and acceleration test. This consisted of accelerating along 150 ft. stretch of road, turning into an 8 ft. wide bay and stopping across a line. After reversing over this line the car had to go forward through the bay and stop with its front wheels on a line 150 ft. away from the bay-time limit 20 seconds. The Prefect managed this in 22 seconds. However, only two cars bettered this in 21 seconds, a Zephyr and an M.G.

At this stage then we had 950 marks out of 1,000 having lost 40 marks at Mkushi and 10 on the braking and acceleration tests. In class 'A' we were lying in 9th or 10th place.

All cars stood up to the pace very well-the only casualties being a Landrover, which retired soon after the start with water pump trouble, and a generator failure on a Riley.

When the road sections of the rally had been completed, the competitors were finally sorted out by some rather stiff driving tests at Bwana Mkubwa on the following afternoon, Tuesday, July 12. This part of the rally had three objects: To test the driver's skill, to test his knowledge of the size and capabilities of his car, and to test the performance of the car after the 'hammering' it had had on the road sections.

The details of all these tests were known beforehand and it was very obvious, at Bwana Mkubwa that many drivers had not bothered to practice.

The spectators were greatly amused at the 'Mystery' test, which was the only one in which the co-driver took part. All the cars were drawn up, with their crews inside, in line abreast with an eight-foot wide gate facing the centre car. The details of the test were then announced for the first time. The co-driver had to remove the spare wheel, roll it over a line 20 yards behind the car and back.

Then the front nearside wheel had to be changed, all tools and spares replaced, and the car driven through the gate.

The first car through, an Austin A50, was awarded maximum points, each succeeding car was awarded one point less than the car in front of it.

It was rather a frightening experience to be one of a number of cars, sometimes as many as 10 all trying to be the first through an eight-foot wide gate. However, we must have changed the wheel pretty quickly, for we were sixth through the gate.

Several types of car which had given their crews very comfortable rides on the road sections showed that they were not very manoeuverable in the steering tests. Poles were broken and precious seconds lost with unfailing regularity when the three Chevrolets, the Buick (commonly known throughout the rally as 'The Gin Palace') performed. The Land Rovers also did more than their fair share of destroying markers. All other things being equal, the driving tests definitely favoured the smaller cars. This was corroborated when it was found that the two top cars in the tests were an Anglia and our Prefect.

The prize giving was held that evening at the Police Reserve Drill Hall, Ndola. The open award and several other prizes went out of Northern Rhodesia and we were informed that their winners would be back to defend them next year.

The final results were: -

Premier Award-Tudge and Kramer in a Morris Minor with 1507 points out of 1591.
Class 'A'-Kemp and Harris in a Ford Prefect with a total of 1501 points.
Class 'B'-Mr. and Mrs. Glasby in a Bristol 401 with a total of 1497 points.
Class 'C'-Mr. and Mrs. Bush in a Rover 90 with a total of 1438 points.
Manufacturers' Team Award-Ford Anglia, Prefect and Zephyr, with a total of 4070 marks made up of 1182, 1475 and 1413 marks respectively.
Open Team Award-Morris Minor, Bristol 401 and Riley U litre with a total of 4280 marks made up of 1507 1497 and 1276 marks respectively.

In our case we won the Class 'A' award solely on the driving tests as the majority of our class completed the road section without losing points. The Prefect is certainly extremely manoeuverable and lends itself well to quick gear changing. Out of 591 points available for the driving tests an Anglia obtained the highest marks with 553 points followed by ourselves in a Prefect with 551 points.


Article by Alan Kemp

Extracted from the Rhokana Review, September 1955





Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 16:23:25 (PDT)


Gee Dawie

I see what you mean! Especially the final broadcast - very tear-jerking stuff. Loved listening to "The Creaking Door"... yet again.

So when are you coming to visit Johannesburg???


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 07:26:23 (PDT)


Beste Dawie van der Bliksem!!

Perhaps this will help :

Re your query on yellow fever vaccinations. My doctor in the UK said I did not need one as I don't come from a yellow fever infected country, i.e. UK.
BUT
As one is visiting a country, i.e. Zambia, where one could succumb to yellow fever, I was told by the airline rep with whom I flew to Zambia last year, that she hoped I had a yellow fever certificate as I will be exiting Zambia and entering countries (SA and UK) who are not yellow fever infected countries. However, as it was we weren't stopped at Johannesburg Intl mainly because there was absolutely no one there, not even customs!!!

If you are not permitted to have live vaccine then your doctor should give you a medical certificate exempting you from this vaccination because due to medical reasons. That may be the best course of action.

Trust this offering will help!!

Velen Groete
Kris


Kristien E. MassieClick here to contact me

Friday, May 17, 2002 at 07:25:51 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

Well I reckon I am still good for something... are you ready for this...

LM Radio!

Geniet!

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE van der MAPUTO!


Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 06:27:43 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R ! !

Well I was reduced to tears... in looking for recordings of our dear old and beloved FBC, I found instead recordings of our dear old and beloved Springbok Radio!

Get out your handkerchiefs for the signing off message!

Go here for Springbok Radio soundbytes:

Good morning, South Africa, this is Springbok Radio!

I'll keep looking, as I have been looking since I started the GNR, for those soundbytes of the FBC and LMRadio!

Stay tuned!

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE DIE BOK IN DIE DAM!



Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 06:07:03 (PDT)


Dawie

Leaving from a 3rd-world (economically), but a 1st-world mentally, I did not require a yellow fever innoculation, but then the Europeans are a little fanatical and over-the-top with precaution when travelling to other countries, as I experienced when I lived there. Your local SA Embassy will be able to help you on this one. But I reckon you will not need one. Maybe you will need a binga-bongo-anti-insane prophylactic however!


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 04:50:12 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

This message is meant for all people who live outside of Zambia and who have recently visited Zambia.

I am trying to determine if I need to have a Yellow Fever innoculation before leaving Nederland and visiting Zambia.

The Zambian documentation reports that you do need the innoculation if you come to Zambia from a Yellow Fever zone. I have not yet checked the Nederland information for the vice versa.

Heather, coming from Zambia and returning to Zambia reports she has not needed the innoculation.

If you live in a First World country (such as Nederland or Canada) and have recently visited Zambia, were you required to prove your Yellow Fever innoculation?

Yellow Fever innoculation is made from a "live virus", I am excluded from being able to take a "live virus" innoculation.

Standing by...

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE VAN DER BLIKSEM

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 03:18:42 (PDT)


Alix et al,

In my humble opinion, Google is the current best search engine.

Some years ago, it was Metacrawler, which would search all the major search engines for a combined search.

I checked Google just now, and it comes up with tons of hits for Luangwa Valley.

Tot ziens.

Hartelijke groeten...

DAWIE VAN DER BLIKSEM

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 03:11:48 (PDT)


HI all
I have been searching for a site on the Luangwa valley with out much luck, has anybody got any suggestions for a good search engine...thanks

Elias
Meteorites are a commonplace in Australia ....and in our museum there are a few on display....and there is a massive meteor crater at a place near Turkey Creek in the north west of Australia, rather interesting.....
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 17, 2002 at 02:04:07 (PDT)


Meteorite for Sale
The only meteorite find in Zambia. Fell on October 5, 1950 at 0410 hrs in Monze. It is described as Olivene-hypersthene chondrite (L6). Brown matrix with bright metal and some very large black shock veins. (Maybe Gordon Garlick can translate that and tell us what it means.)

Anyway, the asking price is only $86.00. BUT dont expect a football size meteorite. This one only weighs 17grams, so it is probably as big as a thumbnail.
Elias



Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 15:15:27 (PDT)


Jim,

The e-mail address in Allan's entry has been updated in the last couple of days. The address that was in there before was not working, so he was not receiving your messages. If you try again he should get the message.


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 11:58:39 (PDT)


I'm trying to contact Allan Cummings, He does not respond to his email address, which is posted on the board.If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated, thankyou kindly, Jim.

Jim CashClick here to contact me
Btitish Columbia, Canada
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 11:49:57 (PDT)


Jacqui Milward

Don't let my daughter Natasha read your posting regarding Ferrari & Schumaker - she hates him. tash was a Mika Hakinen fan until he decided to retire for a year. she now supports Coulthard and Montoya. Poor kid. I now and then wind her up by wearing a fed and yellow Ferrari T shirt which she hates! Hee hee sadistic old devil of a dad is me!
Have & great time at Monaco!

Des Kenny

Whats this I saw on Sky TV last nite!!!!! Your nephiew Austin Healey advertising for a "hair" restorer product. Hee hee - I thought his hair was all his own. Obviously all the stress of England not winning the Rugger Grand Slam has taken it's toll. Don't go quiet after Wallasey Reunion mate!!!!!



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 08:01:52 (PDT)


Dawie van der WOTNOT ??

Yes I am going to the Monaco Grand Prix next weekend. I have e-mailed you so look out for it. I don't know how many on the GNR are F1 fans, but for those who are, they will know all about the current crisis in the sport and I will be there showing my full support for Michael, Rubens and Ferrari. So....throw stones all you like...I don't care! Heh! Heh! Ouch!



Jacqui MilwardClick here to contact me
London
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 07:37:22 (PDT)


Jonny, I agree with you about Bunny Lowe. He was married to a cousin of my dad's (Viv Eldridge), and even though I was a very little girl at that time, I still remember him as being a very handsome man and I am sure my sister Vivienne and cousins, Lyn and Shirley all remember him well and would agree. We use to love going to the Chingola pool when Bunny ran it. If I am not mistaken Bunny was killed in a car accident, but Vivienne will know more then me.

Best regards to all

Heather

Heather KnowlesClick here to contact me
Boksburg R.S.A.
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 03:05:35 (PDT)


Johnny

I will love you for ever for saying the words "...a bit before your time..." I feel great once again!! Thank-you.


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 02:16:47 (PDT)



My dear LINDA promises, promises, promises.Love Johnny.
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FIONA I thought I was right when I remarked to Craig that I am sure this girl is from Welkom in the Vrystaat, as you can always tell a girl from Welkom, and I am not telling you how so no begging. Love Johnny.

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Linda Bunny Lowe was certainly the best looking of the wrestlers we had in the country at that time a real lady killer you oviously never saw him. Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 01:54:02 (PDT)


Dave,

Glad to hear that you have moved into the new place.

I also came down with a bit of cold when I arrived home, but I figured it was probably someone on one of the planes (most likely Toronto to Vancouver when I had to fly in cattle class) and it doesn't sound nearly as bad as yours and Heather's. Des, were you testing those biological-warfare agents you were telling me about?


Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 01:24:37 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

When Heather and I returned from The Wirral, we both got very sick with a nasty cough and cold. Mine of course deteriorated into a fever and bronchitis, and it took three or four days to fight it off (staying in bed all day, sweating, and sick as dog). I didn't want to crawl to the doctor for more antibiotics.

Nonetheless, having lost all that time, we managed to survive, and we are both better, albeit Heather continues to have a nasty cough. I have introduced her to the wonders of the best cough suppressant in the world: codeine. Oh oh.

Anyway, all is slightly better. We saw the BATAVIA yesterday, and the weather is warm and sunny. The Dutch elections went better than I expected, but the foreign (British & American) journalists got all interpretations totally cocked up.

Heather returns to Africa sometime this weekend I reckon. I might go to the south of France to see a friend at Cap d'Agde. Jacqui are you going to the Grand Prix? Let me know!

On 14 June, I move into my new apartment on the Singel gracht. This is the one I bought.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE VAN DER WOTNOT...
Amsterdam



Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, May 16, 2002 at 01:03:52 (PDT)


Let's not forget Blackie Hall when talking about wrestlers. My money is on him...

Johnny
I see you are getting out of hand, and I shall have to come to the Banbury Booze-Up to keep you under control. I'm stripping the paint off my tap dancing boots as we speak.

Mo Steevens
Am I correct that you went by the nickname of Fred in "The Wall" days, or am I mixed up again?

Carole Bruce
Thanks for the lovely piccies. It has been a blast catching up. I emailed "The Silk" and told him you and I have been swapping war stories about him. That ought to have him quivering in his boots. Ha! Ha!

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 15:55:25 (PDT)


DAVE

Not only is Mr Shuttleworth a South African, but also from "the dusty little mining town of Welkom" (Vrystaat) where I lived my youth after leaving Zambia. I gather he is the man that invented the little yellow locks at the bottom of secure internet sites (I think, but I may have the wrong person, whatever, he is a rich as Croesus)

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 12:35:56 (PDT)


Hi Linda and Bill
Thanks for the suggestions. I will put out a Castle for John and a Chibuku for Beauteous; much better than making a mess with chickens!

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 12:22:13 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

I'm off the BBC now. On the technology show about wonders of the future or whatever, they referred to Shuttleworth as "British-born", ignoring the fact that not only does he refer to himself as SOUTH AFRICAN, but that he was wearing the South African colours and flag all over his chest and biceps.

I called them on the fact on the chatline. They ignored my question.

Goodbye BBC!

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE DIE BEDONDERED
Amsterdam

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 11:52:11 (PDT)


Johnny,
Whatever it is that you`ve got, bottle it and sell it you`ll make a fortune mate.I`ll be first in the queue.

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 09:21:44 (PDT)



Wan't there a singer called CASH who used to sing It's Bad time to leave me LUCILLE? (Sorry Jim I cant resist a Pun.
Regards Johnny.


john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 08:29:14 (PDT)



Linda I remember Mick Mcmanus the dirty Irishman, and quite a few more but maybe before your time as I used to take my dear wife who loved all the the con men who used to be on the boards in those days to the local matches, I will list a few I can remember KWANGO as black as the ace of spades but very popular,THE GHOUL who was a frightening creature who wore a mask, THE FARMER who was very good, THE PYE BROTHERS I think they were all as dirty as each other there favourite trick was to to take a mouth full of water before the the bout and then spit it into there opponents eyes and blind them as the bout started, and I remember one night in particular when the Ghoul had the farmer in a head lock both of them on the canvas this old lady jumped up from the audience and stuck a 4" hat pin into the GHOULS bum you have never seen a quicker seperation of contestants in you life and the GHOUL had to be restrained from attacking the old lady happy days.
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Desmond Kenny I am not asking you to believe this but on the holy bible this is true I went to a party last Sat night and exactly the same thing happened again , a completely strange woman walked across the dance floor seized me and kissed me full on the lips and said my name is Sue and I want to get to know you better, I wonder if I have a little of Harry Potter in me I made some discreet enquiries and dicovered she was a married woman but OH BOY.
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Regards to all Johnny.






john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 08:17:52 (PDT)


I have still not heard from Lucille Cook nee Ball.If anyone knows the where abouts of Lucille, please ask her to email me, thankyou. Jim.

Jim CashClick here to contact me
Btitish Columbia, Canada
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 06:49:21 (PDT)


Johnny

Talking wrestling - do you remember watching British wrestling on TV in Zambia when they had that dreadful chap, Mick McManus, who was so mean and had those awful fatty lumps all over his back?! My family and I used to get ourselves into some awful knots watching!


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 01:27:29 (PDT)



Ken I notice in your list of Nr wrestling greats you made no mention of Bunny Lowe, He was quite a popular guy in Chingola but I dont know how he rated in the ring world, can you enlighten me. Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 22:57:51 (PDT)


Elias
Now that was some insulting! He! He! I was wondering if perhaps the insulter had caught a glimpse of me in a shop window and was overcome with fright, but then I realized it was not me he was insulting. Ha! Ha!

George Maxwell
I'm afraid I've opened up a can of worms here and you will be beating the women off at the next bash. Do forgive me! But can I ask a favour please. Could you cut a little lock off and send it to me. But make it from your head and not your chest, please... Ha! Ha!

Heather
Are you back home yet?

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 20:44:24 (PDT)


Does anyone suffer from Tapeworm, Thread worms or Round Worms?
If so here are two traditional remedies guaranteed to cure. The first is a tapeworm cure. For those who have eaten Pomegranates, the flesh around the pips is really sweet but if you bite into the pips they taste really bitter and also your hands are often stained black from the juice. So what you need is the Pomegranate root, cut it into chunks and boil for 1 hour in about two pints of water. You will be left with about a pint of evil tasting, bitter black liquid which you have to drink as soon as it is cool. If you vomit out the liquid, you must repeat the dose.

Now for the other worms all you need is 9 of those red hot chillis. The little ones that are really hot. Even Indians eat them in moderation. You must eat 3 a day, preferably one with each meal. Take a tiny nibble at a time with plenty of food in your mouth. Have lots of liquid ready.
TIP. When you need to go to the toilet after dont use toilet paper. Use a bidet or a container of water.
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The first remedy was given to me by a Mr Welsh a teacher at Gilbert Rennie School. The second by Isiah Phiri the Witchdoctor/Healer father of a painter of mine.
Good luck.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 14:59:54 (PDT)


Linda Hayes
Have you given yourself a good shake yet? You are losing touch with your insults even the Fenwicks are passing you. Take a tip from one Zambian to another. These two dont know each other have never seen each other, just written messages to each other occasionally, and hate each other intensely because they have different veiws of politics:-
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"Anonymous, whoever you are, whatever your story is, wherever you are, you are one big bumbling idiot. Your two buttocks must be like two jelly filled pumpkins wobbling all over the place when you walk. You stupid, silly, senile idiot! - Unifying Entity,
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Actually, I suppose we are a bit braver here because we usually put our real names.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 14:36:45 (PDT)


Doug
By any chance did you find a red dress in your washing machine? If you did, I can tell who is haunting you. I believe you were one of her favourites when she was still alive.

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 14:15:40 (PDT)


Bigger Banbury Braai Bash - Sept 21st, 2002

It looks like interest in this event is gathering momentum quite quickly much to my suprise. There is demand for the "Where to Stay" Oxfordshire UK hotel & Guest House Guide booklet. I still have a number of copies which I can post to those of U planning to attend. Alternatively look at the banbury web site www.banburytown.co.uk which lists accommodation in the area.

The Kings Sutton Village Hall (smaller of 2 is booked) holds up to 80 people comfortably so we have plenty of room for masses of U Northerners on the nite. Further details will be posted as planning preparations proceed.

David Atkiss/Peter Rutherford

I hope U both will be able to attend the above event this time.

Peter I have e. mailed U direct BUT "yes" Alan is my younger brother and did work for U at Reco in Kitwe. I have forwarded your details to him.



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 13:57:13 (PDT)


All GNRs
Anyone remember speedway riders John Walker & Bert Clark?
Ndola Grand Prix?
John Walker spent an evening with us last month - He comes out from the UK fairly frequently.
Berts son Gordon lives in Durban & we see him often.
Best regards to all.

Bill HuntClick here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 13:09:02 (PDT)


Doug Grewar
By the sounds of it I think your old mate Johnny Boy Glen is around your place doing a bit of haunting for the fun of it!
Best leave a couple of lagers next to the fireplace to appease him.
Best regards

Bill HuntClick here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 12:15:36 (PDT)


I seem to be having a run of bad luck! Last week the washing machine had to go for repairs then my TV bombed out. This Monday the pool pump burned out and had to be replaced and today my son's TV which we had moved to the lounge as a temporary replacement also bombs out. Must be bloody umtagati's or tokoloshi's. I shall have to sacrifice a white chicken or something to appease these evil spirits.

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 11:47:14 (PDT)



Elias has just informed me that I have transmitted a virus to him if I have sent you mail recently please check I have now located it and destroyed it now SORRY>Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 04:28:50 (PDT)


Hair today, gone tomorrow

We had thought it might have something to do with living in that cold, damp, dark land of Scotland, but doesn't seem to have worked for Elias!

Big Moo or should it be meow!

Moira FenwickClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey, England - since 1984
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 03:58:21 (PDT)


All follicly challenged young men

George Maxwell has the secret!

George has been voted, by the GNR and Wallasey babes, as having the best head of hair and most natural colour out of all of us!

Moi Moo



Moira FenwickClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey, England - since 1984
Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 03:53:06 (PDT)


Hi Arthur

I am sure you will not know me but I have lived here, Kitwe, for most of my life.

I often browse the message board and saw this message from Gordon Garlick.

The photograph in question is taken at Mwekera just outside Kitwe near the Forestry College.

He had no contact details and I found yours at the end of the board.

Please would you forward this e-mail to him or post it.

Regards

Gerard Fagan


used to sneak along on most of them and watch them party and talk rocks. This one was taken either on the Lufubu or at the springs near the Hippo Pools on the Kafue near the Bancroft Road. I am ashamed to say I don't remember which. Maybe someone will recognize the spot and enlighten me.




Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 13:12:36 (PDT)


Dear Ken Miller

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I am afraid your description on how I became to be hairless is phantasy, as you can see I was born with an abundance of hair, but my friends used to wind me up as it started to recede and say it was caused by friction by its constant contact with bed end boards, of course that was fiction as well and if I knew the reason for baldness and could prevent it I would today be a millionare but thank you any way for coming to the defence of a follicly challenged young man. Regards Johnny.




BWANA STEEVENS

KEN MILLER'S dad had a Hudson vanette. Herewith a picture of My Mother with my dad's Hudson vanette outside our house in
Mufulira. The house number is on the wall and reads 186 - ( J186). The little one is my dear sister Zandi.

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circa 1951

Regards

Gordon Garlick




Wrestling in Zambia

Throughout the 1950's and the first half of the 1960's, Tommy Miller, "Zambia's Mr. Boxing" regularly wrote " At the Ring Side" in "Nshila" published by the Zambian Government, "Boxing Illustrated", "Ring Magazine", "Central African Post" and "Lusaka Advertiser" on boxing and wrestling antics in the Square Ring.

The hero of Lusaka, was the ever popular Fred Coates, who not only wrestled, but also promoted wrestling shows at the Lusaka Show Grounds. In the Copperbelt, Fred was always perceived as the villain. Fred constantly attracted world class wrestlers to battle with him, invariable he lost the first fight, however, on the rematch he would seek revenge, and justice would prevail when he claimed victory.

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Tommy Miller's last article on Zambian wrestling, published in "Boxing Illustrated " March 1966.


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Fred Coates in his trade mark leopard skin trunks. Fred was an extremely powerful man and could single handedly pick up telephone poles. Shaking hands with Fred was like grasping a bunch of bananas.


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A flyer for the first battle between Fred Coates and Quassa Modo.


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Vincente Castlla of Spain fought under the nom du guerre " Quassa Modo" reputed to be one of the ugliest wrestlers in the world, came honestly to his ring name as he was the stunt double for Anthony Quinn in the film " Hunchback of Notre Dame". He fought Fred Coates twice with predictable results, beating the the local hero and then losing by disqualification.


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Tommy Miller obtaining the lowdown from Quassa Modo.


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Tommy, and Ken Miller getting the bald facts from Hungarian wrestler Josef Kovacs.


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Nikolai Zigulinoff, the Vulgar Bulgar lets his hair down while being interviewed by Tommy.


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The Wild Man from Borneo, obviously had a bad hair day and was a flower child of the 60's.


Sli Hi Lee, the Kalahari Wild Man and Ian Campbell were just a few of the other international wrestlers that fought in Lusaka and the Copperbelt. Mike Erasmus who hailed from Kitwe was the local hero and went on to be the Zambian heavyweight wrestling champion in 1966.

Fred Coates, Mike Erasmus, Tennson Phiri, Barry Lindo, Pete van der Merwe, Lucky Lawrence and Jackel Lawrence, were all noble gladiators of the square ring and put Zambian wrestling on the map. Thank you all .


Ken Miller




Thanks for the contributions everyone !



Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 12:37:47 (PDT)


Lorraine, Shaun, Craig ,Jamie and i would like to thank every one at the Wallasey due, it was fantastic and a fantastic job well done, a good time was had by ALL .GREAT to meet GARRY and ALLEN B. after 20 years. Also the twins, they were great i thought they had calmed down in their OLD age but guess what i was wrong, Phil and Allison, great people. Garry ,has a fantastic wife and kids .Allen well, almost there congratulations. Don ,dont over do it. DAVE COOPER, i was told we had TWO ZAMBIANS still in the bar till morning even if they did not look alive the following day , Well done CRAIG and SHAUN Forbes. Des ,well done and to everyone else who organized the party .Hope to see you all again soon keep well.Barbra and Andy nice to see you again after so many years. We did toast for absent friends ei. Linda D , and Cathy and Family .

Ian Lorraine Shaun, Craig,and Jamie F



IAN FORBESClick here to contact me
WALTHAMSTOW LONDON
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 12:35:00 (PDT)


Betty Mahady

Please can you e. mail me again. Your message was received incomplete. Only received "Gary please can U mail me............"? Thanks.

Pat & Barrie Braidford

Do I take it as a definate then that U 2 will be here for sept 21st! Who will be doing the driving if U R planning to stay with Pats brother in Oxford?

Fi Fi Gayther

B & B at farmhouse is right on edge of village & is NOT working farm house. Just a "posh" old farmhouse in snobby part of village but Stephen & Sarah Allday are nice people. otherwise stay in Banbury with mate of yours Georgie.

Dave Cooper

Banbury is on mainline rail service from London Paddington via Reading or direct from London Marleybone stations.

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 11:37:09 (PDT)


BWANA GRINS ,
ELIAS,
I have suffered from gout for a long time and have been taking the drug allopurinol to counteract it for some time now. Apart from my many other complaints I also have reduced kidney function stemming from previous surgery and the anti rejection drug Cyclosporin, which I have to take constantly, My kidneys therefore do not remove the uric acid completly from my system and this then cristalises and builds up in the joints, (particularly the feet) this is gout and as you obviously know can be extremly painful at times. Anyway it does not put me off the billy, second crop nearly ready, cant wait!!
BRASSO,
Re - your September bash, Pats cousin has a pub in Oxford,
(The Jerico Arms ) and another in Cambridge the name of which we know not. Pat also has a brother in Wokingham where we can probably have free board and lodgings, so one way or another we should be able to manage it.
Regards,
barribee.

Barrie BraidfordClick here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 07:37:05 (PDT)


Helen Chileshe
Umwana Helen please can you ask Mwaaana Evans if he is related to Mwana Safeli Chileshi. The former mayor of Lusaka. thank you.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Monday, May 13, 2002 at 06:57:56 (PDT)


The word Mwana.....I asked my husband and got a very convoluted explanation. The best I can remember is that it depends on how you pronounce it, and what context you use it in. Pronounced mwaa-na (long mwa short na, emphasis on first syllable) it means friend. pronounced mwana (short mwa short na) it means baby. umwana also means baby, but it is shortened to mwana depending on the situation. something to do with baby, boy, man (baby, girl, woman) but that went way over my head, my linguistical Bemba is too poor.
does that help?

helen chilesheClick here to contact me
New Zealand
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 21:30:55 (PDT)


BIGGER BANBURY BRAAI BASH - SAT. SEPT 21ST 2002.

YES the above date is firm and fixed. Cost of meal per head is yet to be calculated and advised.

Location: Kings Sutton Village memorial Hall, Astrop Road, Kings Sutton (about 4 miles out of Banbury), Nr banbury, Oxfordshire.

Date: Saturday September 21st 2002.
Time: 18.00 Hrs to 24.00 Hrs.


For accommodation and local Banbury information see www.banburytown.co.uk

Note Please: Accommodation is always at a premium in this area as in hub of tourist areas (Stratford Upon Avon, warwick castle, Oxford university, Cotswolds etc.)Also ther are a lot of the F1 racing teams in the surrounding areas (Benitton, Bar, Williams, Etc) who tend to book staff into local hotels & B & B's frequently throughout the year. I strongly advise U book very early indeed.

I have about 40 North Oxfordshire "Where to Stay" guides which list local hotels, guest houses, B & B's in the area and their respective facilities & room costs. If you would like a copy of this booklet please e. mail me your full name & postal address and I will forward to U.

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 13:39:56 (PDT)


Barribee
I would take what Johnny Green says with a pinch of salt.
I saw a recent photo of an old pal of mine, Paul Golson. We used to play water-polo and rugby together and I think Paul was also very good at gymnastics. He looked even younger and fitter than when I last saw him, so I asked Heather Chalcraft to find out why.
Heather told me that Paul can still outswim many youngsters AND the secret is the same diet that Johnny is using except Paul also includes Chocolate and Scotch whiskey.
I wonder if Kevin Shone's swimming team also follow that diet, because they are very successful.
Regards
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 09:27:31 (PDT)



Barribee I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you eat consistantly large amounts of Billy you will have a good chance of getting GOUT, this combined with shell fish,red wine, and any red meat you will be lucky to avoid it, I speak from experience be warned, Regards to you both Johnny.


john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Sunday, May 12, 2002 at 09:04:04 (PDT)




Zambian Music

Just finished 30 minutes in a listening booth on the web where I checked out the sounds of various Zambian musicians, including those of the interestingly named Black Muntu check out it out for yourselves on www.mondomusic.co.zm

George MaxwellClick here to contact me
Draughty Edwardian house in Edinburgh
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 23:25:59 (PDT)


Chris S

Thanks for the info on Banda. Much appreciated.

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 18:52:30 (PDT)


Colin M:
I think George is lying to all of us and you should definitely tell your Mum about it. He! He! Please give your wife my best.

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 16:22:59 (PDT)


FIONA,
First crop of biltong eaten, balady gorgeous Ihave decided yhat the next crop will be a secret. that Barrie!! had nearly eaten the lot sitting in the sun drinking beer while I was in the park with the kids.But who can blame him. Well the next crop is on its way. I am not sure if we can afford this rate of consumption but what the hell.My son told me tonight that it can also be done with salmon god help me Iwill be bankrupt.hope to see you again.
bye Patbee.
ARTHUR
As you will see from my message to Fiona I am now a Biltongholic along with my other obsessions I feel that I am doomed.However it must be the healthiest addiction to have anything that tastes so good cant be bad can it.or can it.
See ya. Patbee.


















Barrie BraidfordClick here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 14:33:31 (PDT)


SOME INTERESTING STATS ABOUT WALLASEY

1) Vast amounts of Castle & Lion Lager consumed.
2) Plain & Piri Piri Wors was superb! Mmmmmmmmmmm
3) Brother & Sister Pappy & Lydia (Beck) Papier met for 1st time at Wallasey in 21 years. Pappy had NEVER met his Nephiew JR (Lydia's son) until Wallasey!!!!
4) The Brasso's (including Brother in Law Phil Waud)were far the largest contingent ..... 11 of us!
5) Mo & Sarkyarthur had not seen each other for years! Mo like Heater is a honey!
6) Cookie - piss artist & auctioneer. Most of the fellas were betting he would not make the evening event after the vast amounts of booze he consumed during lunch. He proved us all wrong. Pops Brasso shared a room with him - said in late afternoon "Cookie" snored like hell and woke Pop up - that is a task in itself!
7) Des Kenny is taller than me - then again almost everyone at Wallasey was taller than me!
8) Fiona Gayther is cute and so are all the other ladies in attendance.
9) My wife Julie thinks "Sarkyarthur" is soooooo sexy and if he and she were not married she'd chase him!!!!!
10) Mark Bennet is still a ladies man according to my wife! The Charmer!
11) Graham Nelson & Debs - wonderful chums. Bring Pops to Banbury in September.
12) Ian & Lorraine Forbes - ring us every day since Wallasey! Great.
14) Lydia Beck - U better bring John & JR to the Banbury Bash in September 21st!!!!
15) The Twins - Laura & Jane. Cute & loveable as ever.
16) My wife Julie (100% anglofile) - thanks for your encouragement and support at Wallasey.
17) Craig & Dave (Dawie) - thanks guys. Nice to meet U both at last and put a face to a name.
18) Adrian Mooy - how the hell do you keep looking so young????????

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 13:56:25 (PDT)


Thanks Lydia & Doug! I'll go along with the explanation - a sort of patronising 'sonny' kind of use was how it seemed to me!
Liked your story too Doug - you obviously have a very good memory! Where is Sandra now? She was a buddy of one of my daughters and I remember her as an absolutely gorgeous young teenager.

Liz DowningClick here to contact me
Lincs, UK
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 11:33:11 (PDT)


Liz
I think Lydia has got the right interpretation of Mwana. It brings to mind the story of 'Mwana Lesa' (Son of God)who cauzed problems in the early days of Northern Rhodesia.

He was an African from the Eastern Province who crossed into Malawi, or Nyasaland as it was then known, and spent some time under the tutelage of an American based religious group called Watch Tower, or Wa Chi Tawala to the locals. He quickly realized the financial prospects of religion, so he returned to Northern Rhodesia and started his own evangelitic crusade preaching to the natives in remote parts the Eastern Province.

He had a very neat system of converting the masses. His disciples would gather all the people in an area next to a river for baptism by immersion. Several people were drowned because 'Mwana Lesa' held the stingey people (who hadn't tithed enough to improve his bottom line adequately) under water for longer. The word soon spread and the people coughed up their last penny before entering the river. The crusade was a great finacial success for Mwana Lesa as he travelled from village to village, but complaints soon filtered through to the B.S.A. company administration's ears. They sent out various expeditions to capture him but most were unsuccessfull because of Mwana Lesa's strong Muti (magical medicine), or maybe because he had a good spying system to get early warning. Believe what suits you! The famous Chirupula Stephenson was involved in this, and at one time even suspected that Mwana Lesa might one of his sons as apparently he had a light skin colour.

Finally Mwana Lesa was caught by two Kapasu's (Askari's) or Boma messengers. To make sure he could not use his powerful muti to escape on their trek to the nearest Boma (admin centre) they bound him tightly to a tree every night with wire. By the time they handed him over, gangrene had set in and both arms had to be amputated. This operation and nursing him back to health wasted quite some time, but as you will well know, it is against the jolly old British sense of fair play to hang a sick man. As soon as he was fit and well they then hanged him.

I am happy to hear you knew my Liz. I will forward your greetings.

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 10:29:10 (PDT)


Liz Downing,

have you got the right spelling for Mwana? in Kaonde Mwane means please.
The word mwana isn`t used on its own,in most of the african languages its use for Son( Mwana wamulume) daughter(Mwana wamukazhi)in Kaonde aswell maybe its like saying my son,or my daughter.I`ll keep an eye on the gnr to see if anyone can solve the problem.

Lydia

lydia BeckClick here to contact me
Coningsby Lincoln uk
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 08:11:56 (PDT)


Johnny G.
Your Photos are wonderful.a real pleasure to view.shows what happens when a party animal gets behind the camera......and Arthurs magic....Magic!!!!!
Hurry you others we want to see more...
Fiona...
They are lovelly photos of you......!!!!! it shows you a happy bubbly person enjoying life......

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 06:19:56 (PDT)


Doug..
Thank you for your posting, I enjoyed it very much....Please Post some more.......It is great to learn about other customs etc as Tina said in her posting...
Ken Miller
What happened to our resident Greek God "Elias" have you seen his pate.....hehehe......

Moms, Mothers, Grandmothers, etc..and Dads that are doing Moms duties as well......(K.S.)!!!

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY FOR TOMORROW.......

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 06:10:30 (PDT)


THE BARE FACTS .......

Having read all the accounts of the "GREAT GNR BASH" and looked at the pictures, at least those fit to be displayed on such a public domain, it is obvious to me why Johnny Green would appear to be follicley challenged.

When Johnny was born, it was obvious that he would be greater than any Greek God, and to cover his perfectly shaped head with hair would have been anything short of criminal.

As a mere mortal, and an imperfect one at that, my Mother was never satisfied with my appearence and would often attempt to improve on my disheveled looks. I knew there would be problems when the long scissors and hand clippers appeared. I first noticed my Mum's disdain for my hair when I grew up in Kasama in the early fifties.

The ritual would start by having Timothy our houseboy, chase me throughout the house, catch me and deliver me like a lamb to the slaughter to my Mum, who would then place me on a high stool and envelope me in a large white bath towel. She would perform a sacrificial dance around me, occassional running the comb through my golden locks and pulling on the knots often resulting in fists full of hair being pulled from my tender scalp.

The tempo of the dance would slow, and then with scissors in hand she would attack my head creating uneven tufts of hair. Stopping occassionaly to admire her handy work, she would attempt to changed the blades in the clippers. When this was completed, I knew I was doomed to a fate worse than death.

The slow temo of the dance would resume, first to the right then the left, the back the front, with Mum ever sqeezing the clippers and attacking every tuft of hair that remained standing.

After what felt like an eternity, her dancing would stop, she would admire her work turning her head from side to side, frown a little, and invariable pick up the clippers and attack a stubborn tuft that did not conform with her high standards.

The clicking of the scissors eventually stopped, the tugging of the clippers as they pulled each and every hair eventually stopped, and Mum admiring the transformation she had created would declare " Now isn't that better, my, you are a handsome young man".

Dad also went through the same ritual, however Timothy our houseboy did not participate in catching the bwana, and Dad would freely let Mum perform her ritualistic dance of the hair, however, I must admit there was often maritial tension in the atmosphere when good old Dad would look into a mirror to admire his new doo. Tragedy occured after her first attempt at cutting Dad's hair,sadly, he was blinded when his prison officers hat slid past his eyes and he could no longer see the light of day.

Mum always the innovator,came to the rescue and cured Dad of his blindness by securing newspaper inside his hat and he was then able to proudly resume his duties as the officer in charge of the Kasama Prison.

Johnny, you are indeed blessed not to have endured the cutting remarks I would receive about my hair. Your pink bald head is indeed a beacon for all to admire.








Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 04:24:14 (PDT)



Dear Fiona you know I would never do anything intentionally to embarass you but you must remember the old adage the camera never lies, unless the pictures get into the hands of that photo manipulator that stirrer Sarky, I canot see what you are crying about anyway you look like Cindy Crawford to me on them and I think your appeals to Craig will fall on deaf ears as he did remark to me as you were dancing by what a beautiful woman isn't she, well my dear I hope to see you again in Sept as radiant as ever and all those bad thoughts about me cast from your mind and dont forget to bring your buddy the beautiful Diane with you again I dont see any squwawks from her so I gather she is happy with her lot, bye for now my dear Johnny.x

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Brasso thanks buddy for that late date in Sept, look forward to seeing you and all the family again give all of them my regards Johnny.
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Dessy I will contact you at a later date what night we can make it to the Kareoke pub in Sept but if you canot make it the name of it as i have forgotten it allready thanks pal Johnny.





john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Saturday, May 11, 2002 at 00:34:45 (PDT)


Banda would be the Ngoni or Chewa tribe of the eastern Province and Malawi

Chris SwartClick here to contact me
Kitwe
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 21:51:04 (PDT)


Can anyone tell me what tribe the surname "Banda" is likely to be from?

Thanks,

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 17:46:02 (PDT)


Doug G

Your email to Alix on customs and word uses was fascinating. Do you have any more lore?

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 17:44:08 (PDT)


Liz Dowding

Wow U sure did miss an event last weekend at Wallasey. However the Bigger Banbury Bash Braai date is set for Sept 21st more info to be posted as I arrange the event SO make sure U book that date in your events attendance diary!

Johnny Green

As U will see from above to Liz - I have managed to make sure the Banbury Bash is accessable to you and fits in well with your busy September schedule. I anticipate posting hotel, guest house & B & B details in the next week or so.

Elias G

Thanks for the compliments about the Brasso Women being good lookers. Now U can understand why I am bald and old!!! U R attending the September Bash!!!!!!!!!!!! I have considered a "stripper" for the evening BUT decided may be prudent not too as I doubt if your pacemaker could cope with the strain on the nite! Also I could not trust by baby brother "Cookie" (monster). He will be a married man after the 15/6/02 and in his honeymoon period! Took him 46 years to get married though!!!!!!!!!!

GNR T Shirts

I will be working on graphics & costings an hope to post details later. My T shirt was an original one off design (Front had GNR logo at top, below was Zambian K10 note & bottom was postcard views of Kitwe ..... the back of T shirt had Zambian map and text "I'm an avid supporter of the GNR & it's family") - Kenny & Fi Fi modified my style to fit the Wallasey Wallowers T shirts. I will talk to the "Founders 4" to see if we can agree a set style/design!!





Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 16:59:56 (PDT)


Doug Grewar
Fascinating Doug. The best part of African society is that women give men the respect that is due to them. Unfortunately times are changing and Divorce courts are starting to favour women. Have a look at this report from The Zambia Daily Mail(05/05/2002) PC Brigade, do NOT read further if easily offended.

Wife has reduced my manhood strength
by Kanyanta Katongo.
A man seeking divorce told a Lusaka Boma local court that his sexual potency had waned because of traditional medicine his wife used to stop him from making love to other women.
Mafano Sikatangwe, 36, of Old Kanyama township in Lusaka was sued by his wife Philis 30.
Sikatangwe alleged that his wife applied the medicine on her private parts before making love and he has been unable to adequately perform sex ever since.
He told the court that even with his girl friend he has been failing to perform.
He now fears for his life, especially that she allegedly threatens to kill him through poisoning.
In defence Philis told the court that happiness was there in 1988 when they got married and they had 5 children and he had paid Kwacha 700 as dowry.
She alleged that her husband became promiscuous and married another woman when she was three months pregnant
and deserted her to go and live with another woman. She alleged that her husband also married another woman when he chased her away to go and live with her parents at the village. Because of these matrimonial disputes I was forced to flirt with my uncle and told my husband when I came home.
Justice Sainet Chitambo noted that it was difficult for them as a court to intervene when someone has made up his mind, but you would not enjoy the good fruits of marriage.
Divorce was granted and Sikatangwe was ordered to pay Kwacha 900,000 for maintenance.
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In the old days she would never have dared to sue poor Sikatangwe, specially as she had been using herbs to make him impotent.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 16:11:50 (PDT)



Doug,
What does 'mwana' mean?
ps Liz was a good friend of ours - great person!

Liz DowningClick here to contact me
Lincs, UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 15:36:08 (PDT)


Looks like that was the BEST party ever in living memory!! OK, so my memory isn't so good but it still looks like one helluva party. Next one, for sure, come hell or high water, I AM going to be there. Oxford's not so far - at least it's on the right side of the country. No more dithering. I AM GOING TO BE THERE!

Liz DowningClick here to contact me
Lincs, UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 15:30:56 (PDT)


Alix
The Zambian version of Mulungu is Mazungu, not derogatory but not very polite. A polite form of address would Mukwai in Chibemba, Bwana (f.Donna)in Chinyanja, or Umnumzane (f.Inkosikaas)in Zulu.

In Chibemba there is a greeting for every occassion for instance in the morning you would say, 'Mwashibukeni Mukwai'; in the afternoon 'Mwachungulupo Mukwai', when you find a person working hard you congratulate him in the greeting, 'Mwabombenifye Mukwai'. Some tribes such as the Tonga can spend an hour just in greeting one another because they ask after each and every family member. How different from Oxford where I worked in 1967. There they speak Oxford English. The standard plebian greeting is, 'Ye roight' to which the reply is 'roight', and that's it! No wonder they get so many illegal immigrants. The only english it is neccessary to learn is 'roight'.

Another interesting thing about African society is the extended family. Cousins of cousins are counted as family. When an employee asks to attend his father's funeral 3 times in one year he may well be telling the truth, because uncles are counted as fathers in most tribal customs.

In Africa it is not ladies first, it is men first. The man must always go ahead because there may be danger there, a snake, a lion, a tax collector, whatever. This is why when a traditional african family is traveling through the bush the man will only carry a spear (mkondo)or a knobstick (sakila) while the wife follows with a baby on her back, another in her womb, and loaded down with all the family's belongings (katundu). The man must be free of baggage so he can be ready to fight off any dangers.

Misunderstanding customs often causes friction. For instance Bemba's seeing whites eat with closed mouths will say they are eating like thieves while the whites seeing the Bembas eating with mouths open might say they are eating like pigs. In white culture a person who doesn't look you straight in the eye when talking is considered dishonest. In black culture it is very disrespectful to look directly at a senior when talking. When a senior enters a room to show respect whites stand up, while blacks sit down to show the senior is higher than them.

Of course the modern African woman is more likely to carry a cell phone nowadays than her man's katundu, but then most Scots don't wear kilts any more. I liked the old traditional african society better. Today everyone is becoming ersatz americans and imitation trailer park aristocracy.

Linda M
Congrats on cast removal! I have had many broken bones because I always thought I was king of the cowboys and in my youth I had many spills with unco-operative horses who had a different opinion. I also used to get involved in steer riding after a few brandy and cokes at various agricultural shows. As I grew older and wiser I stuck to smashing cars and falling down mine ore-passes to break bones.

After having a plaster cast for a couple of months the itching become unbearable and one resorts to pushing knitting needle etc. inside the cast to try and scratch the maddening itch. Now you can scratch to your hearts content. Enjoy!

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 15:09:12 (PDT)


Jill
Glad you enjoyed the surprise phone call. When I told your husband to say it was Beauteous Matwetwe calling you, he said, "Beauteous Matwetwe? (silence....) Umm... she is asleep..." Ha! Ha! When I told him who I really was, I have never seen a husband try to recover so quickly. You have him well trained... Luv ya!

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 14:04:04 (PDT)


JOHNNY

Thank you. Those are probably the most unflattering photos I have ever seen! That't it! You are really in the kak and I'm off to a nunnery! Remind me to confiscate your camera in September.

ARTHUR

You were supposed to censor them you bugger! I'll sort you out tomorrow!

MO

You were supposed to watch Arthur. You too are in trouble tomorrow. Extra chilli in the curry for you my girl!

CRAIG

That was a great amount raised for the server from the auction! Maybe it should be held a little earlier in the evening in September. You ARE coming then aren't you?? And P.S. Please can you bar Johnny!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 13:50:44 (PDT)


CRAIG

I promise to send the photos to Arthur when I get them developed and vetted them!!!!

ARTHUR

How can I get the photos to you? I don't have a scanner!





Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 13:18:13 (PDT)



You will perhaps be wondering How I appear in a few of the pics in a horizontal position, as much as I wish they were true positions that I took while taking pics I must point out they were super imposed by that wizard on the computer Sarky himself for which he will pay dearly in future when I have mastered his technique.Love and Regards to all Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 12:14:10 (PDT)


Hi All!

It looks like you all wallowed well. Pappy looks just the same as when I last saw him in the then Rhodesia, and I didn't recognise many others, but I must say that I am impressed with how well-preserved some of you are - especially us girls! He! He!

I know that Beauteous has departed this mortal coil, but while I was sleeping this afternoon, I swear she phoned me to apply for a job as house maid. I told her that I did not trust her with my husband, but she told me that she was very much interested in educating my two young sons. Egads - just imagine that! Was this a nightmare, or did she really phone me?

Linda M - I am now in Noordwyk - on a 1000 square metres - awesome - with walls with razor tape on top, electric gates and alarm systems - it's like being in prison, but the neighbourhood is actually friendly and a lot quietr than being right next door to Kyalami Estate - which is why we moved - the enemy took over!

Jilly Mlungu

Jill AplinClick here to contact me
RSA
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 11:36:53 (PDT)


Heather,

Oh, that black leather! It's all coming back to me now.

Johnny,

I do? Fifty females? Names please!

Dave,

You're welcome. I'm going to a Chingola reunion on May 25th in Maple Ridge, which is basically a suburb of Vancouver. Does that count? Apparently there will be people there from far and wide, and I think this is the third annual one. As I commented to someone over the weekend, Northerners seem to congregate around and have mini reunions centred on specific communities (e.g., Chingola, Lusaka, Nkana/Kitwe, etc.) rather than full-blown Northern Rhodesian reunions (although the UK does buck that trend).

Gary,

I've added the Bigger Banbury Braai Bash to the Events page. Please let me know when you have more details and I'll add them.

Arthur,

Great pictures, and interesting "Photoshopping". Thank-you for the proceeds of the auction. It's very much appreciated and will be put to good use. I'm going to put some extra time towards getting a few things working on the site today and in the next few days.

Ottawans,

Ken? Bill?

I am told by Sandra that my sister-in-law says that someone from Ottawa associated with the GNR phoned her looking for me, but I don't have a name. I believe she gave you my phone number. As long as you don't work for a collection agency, I'll take your call. :)

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 10:52:13 (PDT)


Northerners

Here are the long awaited photos from Johnny Green, which are a lot more interesting than mine were !

I have not "named names" to protect the anonymity of those involved, apart from the lovely Felicia, who's photo appears in so many of Johnny's shots.

If you are prudish please skip by these pics, especially the last twenty or so, taken towards the end of the night.

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Whilst posting these pics I would like to thank all those who took part in the auction on the night of the wallow, a fantastic total of £217 was raised, which has been handed to Craig Hartnett to help defray some of the costs of running the GNR.

As you were all far too gone for the intended second auction of the night, the goodies left over will be available at the next bash.

Thank you all so much for your generous participation.

Arthur



Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 10:08:08 (PDT)


Johnny

Thanks - yes, no more straws now, and I have already knocked back my first two beers! Celebrating 'Liberation Day', although I realise that it is the 14th July in France - but I have bumped it up just a bit!

Great to see the photo's of you and the gang - you look seriously happy in all the pics - must have been a great bash!

Any Muf people with a back-hander on my comment about Muf beer bellies?


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 08:51:34 (PDT)


Pierre "Pappy" Papier and Mark Bennett....looks like you guys are still going strong.Good to see the photos.Pappy....have you ever heard from Tony Edwards?
All the best



Chris FordeClick here to contact me
Perth Aus
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 08:19:23 (PDT)


Alix and Paul,
I don't think "umlungu"(s) and "abelungu" (pl) are derogatory terms for whiteman/men, as also "amaBhunu" - another word for an Afrikaaner or Boer. Both these words have a wide usage among all the Nguni tribes.
Alix,
If you don't like someone just refer to them as 'isilima' or 'izilima' (an idiot), or a 'maliwa' (not nice to know).
I'm sure Peter Morris (Speedy) will keep you right on Zulu.
Regards

Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 07:48:07 (PDT)


C.J, Hilton and Paul
Thanks guys......
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 06:42:11 (PDT)


The word "mlungu" (sic) is a Zulu world. It is a derogatory reference to all European (white faces).. Commonly used in KZN, rarely heard in other Southern African countries, except by those of Zulu extraction..

Paul LindenbergClick here to contact me
Johannesburg RSA
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 06:16:50 (PDT)


It's back! Hell what a party! All us wallasey wallowers - superbly wonderful weekend. Cookie - my so called baby brother - bloody hell never knew he had so much stamina & the hollow legs to boot!

To all attendees - wonderful to see U all again & those old but new faces too that made the event. Mo & Heather - hiya darlings. Missing U both already.

. All Wollowers - My wife Julie, Natasha & Scott had a great time & were thrilled - "what wonderful people" U all were was the comment!

Dave & Dawie - good to meet U both at last. U both comming back for the Banbury Bash in September I trust!

Des Kenny what can I say that others have not already said. Superb event - thanks mate!

The Papiers, Beck's, Forbes' Braisfords & all other new attendees - thanks for comming looking forward to seeing U all again in September.

NOW THE GOOD NEWS - Bigger Banbury Braai Bash date has been set - YES!!!!!! Saturday September 21st. I tried to get my birthday weekend on the 28th but village hall was unfortunately booked.

Location Kings Sutton Village Memorial Hall, Near Banbury, Oxfordshire. Time to be announced. I will be posting hotel, guest house and Bed & Breakfast details in the comming weeks. May I advise you attendees book early as Banbury is very busy in September with events!!!!! ALL THE RECENT WALLASEY WALLOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND! No excuses. ELIAS - U get the message!!!!!!!!!!



Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 03:51:05 (PDT)



Craig you have got at least 50+ females wondering if they are Germane.JG

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 03:20:04 (PDT)


BARRIBEE

I'm glad you decided to give the biltong a try - you won't regret it! It tastes better than any biltong I've ever tried in the UK. I also have two German Shepherds who went crazy the first time I made it, but they're used to it now. All you need is a cold Castle to go with it and your contentment will be complete. Let me know what they think of it. By the way, would you like a copy of Ag Pleez Daddy? I have a recording of it and can put it on CD for you. The only thing is that it doesn't have the final verse about moerering all the okies next door - they must have been a polite audience when it was recorded! Again let me know.

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 03:03:11 (PDT)


Elias

I avoid the haunts of the hordes of drunken sextourists from that island off the Dutch coast. That includes "coffeehouses" (where hemp is smoked). Besides, I am allergic to hemp.

I have been with Heather since last week. She is the perfect guest---no complaints at all.

We will go see the BATAVIA in the next few days, and perhaps a two-day trip into the Ardennes.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE DIE VERSKRIKLIKE

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 02:53:28 (PDT)


Elias

So you really are a scrawny, manky, compound chicken then - as soon as you find out that I have left that little island off the Dutch coast, you start making rude comments about me.



Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 02:16:58 (PDT)


Craig
Do you mean to tell me you have forgotten about your ever-so-sexy backside, the backseat of Arthur's car and the smell of black leather!!! You disappoint me!

that Chalcraft woman
at the Internet cafe off the Rembrandtsplein
in AMSTERDAM


Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 02:13:31 (PDT)


Non Offensive????
Dave Cooper, you havent been on the receiving end of that Chalcraft Woman yet. She doesnt know the meaning of "Non Offensive". I will give you a couple of hours, until she starts to get ratty, then you can tell us the truth.
Although, being where you are, stop in at a "Dagga" Cafe that will calm her down.
Regards
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 02:09:57 (PDT)


Linda

No, I won't accept the "USA is too large for reunions" argument. Because... Canada is much bigger than the USA, Australia is about the same size as the lower-48 of the USA, and South Africa ain't a small country either (you can fit 4 South Africas in the lower-48, which makes it a pretty big country).

If people can travel the distance between Durban, Johannesburg, and Cape Town for reunions, than the same can happen elsewhere. It is just a matter of not being parsimonious and of having the chutzpah to do it!

So here's the deal... I challenge the US contingent to beat the Canadians on a reunion. (Thanks Craig for travelling all the way from Vancouver to Liverpool to make a GNR reunion). My money is on Canada!

(This post has been passed as "non-offensive" by that Chalcraft woman who is sitting next to me at the Internet cafe off the Rembrandtsplein in Amsterdam.)

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE DIE VERSKRIKLIKE
Amsterdam

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 01:54:42 (PDT)


FIONA,
The biltong box is up and running, first crop expected Saturday evening,all of the family are eagerly waiting to try it. The dog, an alsation bitch, TARA, is making serious attempts to gain access to the house as she can smell that some thing tasty is happening, it really is as easy as you said it was. Cant think why we didnt try it before. Just did not know how. For any one else wishing to try, visit website, http//members.tripod.com/~areausa/biltong.htlm
for full instructions.(or do a search for Biltong box) We need a copy of the Ag pleez Daddy song so we can learn it for the nexy time, and to teach it to the family.I think it is a very good anthem for Northern Rhodesia, It really was a fantastic rendering of it on Saturday night and a great pleasure to watch some of you reliving past experiences as you yelled your way through it with such gusto. It should have been on the tele. Great night ,thank you all very much. Ek ontou van jou alles baie. sorry about the spelling and I hope it means what I think it means. its about 50years since I spoke Afrkaans..
Regards to all barribee.

Barrie BraidfordClick here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 01:26:29 (PDT)


Thanks Johnny. Received two copies. Not sure if she's germane though, so we'd better keep quiet. :)

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 00:45:14 (PDT)



Craig I am sorry pal I sent them to Arthur and I thought I had copied you on a couple of essential ones, down boy I am sure Arthur will have them on today I should not have used the term head master should I? will send you a fix just now ,Regards Johnny.
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Arthur disregard that last message I am in a confused state at the moment I took an overdose last night when I finished but you please confirm that you did recieve them, thanks Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 00:21:04 (PDT)



Arthur you are kidding ME, I spent at least 3 hours last night sending them to you. JG

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 00:10:51 (PDT)



Dear Linda Welcome back to the land of drinkers you will be able to dispense with your straw and bottle method you have been on for the past 10 days and really climb into it tonight hope every thing ok when the plaster is off Regards Johnny.
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I sent the Greek gentleman a couple of shots of my favourite wiggler last night and at that late hour he came back with requests for her name ,her address, what type of drink she preferred, and did I know what time the next flight to Wallesey was, of course I told him nix let him sweat. Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Friday, May 10, 2002 at 00:06:51 (PDT)


Johnny!

I'm checking my e-mail frantically here and I don't see anything!

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 23:57:17 (PDT)



Joy at last the pics arrived yesterday and Arthur must be busy now reducing the sizes and editing, my pc was running hot last night as I transferred 40 pics to the headmaster I am sorry to say there appears from what I can remember a few missing but who would want to purloin pics of a great p up? unless as Elias suggested it was the vice sqad I hope I managed to get just about every one on and thanks again to Dessy for a great 3 days I am going to see him again at our favourite Karoake venue when I return for 3 days in Sept and can only pray he brings along those delectable sisters of his + the best wiggler this side of the Zambezi I go a little faint every time I think about her, as does a another couple of guys I know,I will transmit another 10 pics to Arthur today, regards to all Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 23:45:02 (PDT)


Today is liberation day! My wing comes out of plaster and I will once more be a 2-armed person.

Bash sounded great, and the pics were so good to look at - was there a pic where no-one had a beer in the hand or a drink nearby?! Roll on the "going home" bash next year! Bring on the Mosi and the Rhino!!!

I gatecrashed the Mufalira b&b on the 27th April, and BOY! I have never seen such a congregation of beer bellies quite like I did that day! Appears that the NR/Z'ians took their drinking habits right down to South Africa after they left the north! You guys up in England all look fit, healthy and trim in compasrison, I must say.

Elias

Ignore all the cluck-clucks - we still love you!


Linda MoultClick here to contact me
Kyalami, Johannesburg, South Africa
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 23:23:26 (PDT)


BUBBA
It is because you is a sssweetie....


Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 21:04:03 (PDT)


Miz Hayes

I sure did like that yuh done named a de-ssert fur me (an all those millions o' other bubbas.

The boys an I bin considerin' an we all thank yuh mightcould find it wuz sumthin like muh grandmaw's fruit cobbler.

Grandmaw takes a whole sack o' flour and a barrel o' sugar when she makes thet.

...Way she makes it an' after our whole family whut's spread over five states gets done eatin' it, it's not too likely the South's ever gonna rise agin.

Bubba



Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 20:36:29 (PDT)


Northerners
can anyone tell me the meaning of "mlungu"
is it a name....or what...as it came as a name on one of the email vireees
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 19:29:56 (PDT)


Northerners!

I'm back home and have had some time to catch up on the message board and view the photographs. As almost everyone else has said, it was wonderful to put faces to the names. Funny how this Internet thing has changed our lives. Who'd have thunk? Thanks also to whoever explained the "making love in a canoe" joke about the Lion to my young, innocent mind.

Des,

First of all, my thanks to you for putting on such a great do. I knew I would enjoy myself, but I enjoyed myself even more than I thought I would. The journey was well worth it... well, except for the guy snoring behind me all the way from Toronto to Manchester!

Arthur,

Thanks to you and Trish for putting up with me and ferrying me to and from the airport (but not across the Mersey). It was good to meet you finally. Friday night was great!

Heather,

It was great to meet you finally too. I hope we can make it for the eclipse in December. We're much too subdued here in North America to have boisterous reunions, although it is possible to get Guinness on tap here. Plus I think all the older Northerners came here. Shhh! Don't tell anyone I said that. Black leather?! Did the real party start after I left?!

Dawie,

With a bum leg, you did a hell of a lot better on the dance floor than I did. Just ask Moira Fenwick! Good to see you again boet. I see that your (Southern) Rhodesian geography is better than your Northern Rhodesian geography. As for spotted dick — I saw that on the menu at the Lighthouse Pub.

Moira (Fenwick),

Thanks for dragging me out onto the dance floor. I enjoyed it, even if it did prove to everyone present that I can't dance. :) Maybe you can't remember your "special" party trick because the party where you originally performed it was a good one!

Moira (Steevens),

I've sussed you out. I know it was you who put the £10 in my pocket on Monday night — I observed your modus operandi earlier in the day with Arthur. That aside, it was a pleasure to meet you and witness the fruition of months of keeping a secret from Arthur. Thanks for the cow-and-bull joke — I'll have to remember that one at an appropriate time.

Johnny,

What can I say? I hope I have your animal magnetism and flexibility (and a cool lighter) when I'm your age! I'm looking forward to your "unique" photographs of the various "complicated gyrations and wiggles".

Jacqui,

It was nice to talk to someone else who has been to Klerksdorp.

Gary,

I can remember your name — I just hope I can remember the names of all the other Brassingtons as well. Thanks for the T-shirts. I'm glad that your dad made it — he was interesting to talk to.

Scarscalp,

Nice to meet someone in person that I've bollocked on-line. You'd quite probably take me in person though. Good luck to you and Debbie in July.

Fiona,

You were actually in fewer pictures this time. Congratulations! Better luck with the sadza next time though. :) I wasn't able to tell whether you were actually saying "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch" (although the end looks right). Now I'd like to know whether or not you actually spelled that from memory. Mighty impressive.

Barrie,

Glad to hear that Pat enjoyed herself so much. It was a pleasure meeting both of you. Thanks for the lift to the club.

George,

Were your squatters male or female?

Glenda,

A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste. When will I get that picture of you, Moira and me?

Barbara,

Good luck getting your new venture off the ground.

Guinness United Distillers & Vintners Limited,

Thanks for having enough on hand in Wallasey. I was forced to drink a competing brand in Manchester, and it was crap... umm, kind of like making love in a canoe, as goes the wonderful saying.

Elias,

It's already been said. Buck, buck, buck, buckawwww! Please also note that any spelling mistakes I make are intentional and purely meant to see if you are paying atttention.

Everyone not mentioned,

I enjoyed meeting all of you. Thanks to all of you who asked after Sandra (which was just about everyone) — she and I appreciated that.

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 18:04:34 (PDT)


GEORGE MAXWELL

All I will say is: George, George!! Your mind!!!!

LINDA DORE

Hair is real, and hardly any grey!! Or else he uses an excellent glue, because it didn't move!!??

Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 14:27:49 (PDT)


The name Peter Parton rings a bell. Didn't he own a catamaran on Lake Tanganyika.

A newsreader on CNN has just stated that Zambia is running out of people because of so many AIDS deaths.

Wonderfull photos from Wallasey. The titles with the names of the people in the picture made them that much easier to save. It looks like the people realy enjoyed. Elias ini wena do? Why you not go to party?

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 14:06:41 (PDT)



IAN Thanks for that interesting info on the sisters I never realised that they were that interesting or I would have driven down that drive for a chat with them as I drove past it endless times, where are the the Parton seniors now I would love to contact them for a chat on the net thanks again Pal Regards Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 12:46:02 (PDT)


Johnny

This is in reply to your message at the end of last month!

Yes, the Gamwell sisters had the farm near the Lake View Hotel which I think became the Outward Bound School in the early sixties - still functioning I believe. My new book tells me that Marion Gamwell was the Commandant of the First Aid Nursing Yeomanry. They didn't do any nursing but used their title as a cover for supporting the Special Operations Executive (SOE). Many were wireless operators or coders and others looked after the agents in secure places until they were sent in to occupied Europe - all very hush hush. Some were actual agents. Hope Gamwell had the rank of Staff Commander.

Sue Parton is married to Miles Parton who is Anne and Peter Parton's eldest son.

Regards Ian

Ian SingerClick here to contact me
Livingston, Scotland
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 11:13:20 (PDT)


Good day Northeners....

About virusses (virii?)...

I use E-Trust - cost $9.95US/Yr - and have so far been spared (fingers crossed) any virusses. Updates to the DAT (virus file) are comingon a daily basis indicating there is a lot of new virus activity taking place. About 10 indabwanas use this as well and so far none have been hit.

About scanning photos...

Wallmart here in Canada (and the US) will scan inup to 40 photos onto a CD for $3.99 can (about $2.50US). They do it while you wait. Takes 5 minutes. The only catch is that your photos must be the same physical size. If you have two different sizes say 3x5 and 4x6 they have two create 2 cds.

About a Canada bash...

Anything in the works anywhere???



Peter DielissenClick here to contact me
Fredericton NB
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 10:10:09 (PDT)


George Maxwell
Well you may have shown me yours, but I'm not showing you mine - natural or not! He! He! Oops.

Dawie
The reason there are no North American reunions is that the country is so large that we are spread further than anywhere else. At least in OZ, there are enough people in Perth to pull one off. It costs too much to fly anyhwere here. By the way, it is called a Spotted Bubba over here.

Why didn't anyone tell me that Arthur was wearing leather. Wild dogs would not have kept me at bay, had I known...

Linda The Leather Lover Dore




Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 06:14:39 (PDT)


A few facts from the Wallasey Bash.

1). Arthur is keen on leather trousers.
2). Graham puts too much water in the sudsa
3). Johnny likes taking photo`s horizontally
4). I am taller than Gary
5). Gary is shorter than me.
6). Dawie can boogie good style.
7). Allan is a bloody good cook for a pommie.
8). Cookie has hollow legs.
9). Moira is a name that means, superb dancer.
10). Elias missed a bloody good session.

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 05:37:05 (PDT)


Alix Key and Spotted Dicks
I just saw your message about Spotted Dicks. Maybe the reason Dave Cooper coudnt find any here was that there was a campaign recently by the PC Brigade to change the name as it could be interpreted in the wrong way. There was even a letter in The Times mocking the PC Brigade and suggesting the name be changed to Spotted Alexander? (Serious).
Now will you and that Chalcraft woman stop distracting me I am trying to use the computer for some real work.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 04:13:31 (PDT)


Heather Chalcraft
What are you doing still in Stockport? You are supposed to be in Amsterdam. I warned you about Arthur he is like Johnny Green a charmer.
Now this is interesting. The respectable Arthur Steevens has a fetish for black leather. What is it whips, thongs, bedsheets? Let us know how you find the male strip clubs in Amsterdam.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 04:05:07 (PDT)


Hi Northerners
I have just had the most awful two hours
the amount of virus emails that my muncher has caught,
8 of them......the muncher is doing a good job, but this is getting tedious all the same...and funny the emails are all from blokes this time but still under the guise of questionaires also from the postmaster as well, so people
beware..and also comes under the guise of "the real internet".......very strange and perplexing.....
Dawie
You mentioned spotted dick., my ex father in law used to make the most scrumptious spotted dick...how ever I never managed to get the recipe...is there anyone that has a good recipe could they email it to me..thanks
Alix


Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 03:13:39 (PDT)


Elias

Women in the Flesh! What about Men In The Flesh? For the rest of my life I shall not be able to think about Arthur without thinking about the smell of black leather.

But for you - what shall I think about? Only a manky, grotty, scrawny compound chicken!!!

that Chalcraft woman
in Stockport

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 03:04:37 (PDT)



Gary Brasso It was great to meet your family what a great lot you must round them all up again for the next one, your dad is a great guy and I really enjoyed my chats with him and the antics of Cookie I have never seen in my life on a dance floor before,I do have a favour to ask you if you decide to go ahead with the Brawl in Banbury can you make it for mid or late September as I have another reunion in Liverpool from the 1st to the 4th of Sept and am allready booked in the Adelphi and payed for those 4 days and would hate to miss our second helping in that month of the GNR as I think I may be on a promise, see what you can do mate and Regards to all the family and to every one else Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 02:43:14 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

The gauntlett that the Brits flung on the table more than a year ago remains UNCHALLENGED, and the Brit contingent of the GNR remain the CHAMPIONS OF PARTY.

NO ONE can beat them! They partied to perverted perfection at Bath, and now at Wallasey!

I suppose you can say the South Africans follow, then the Aussies. As for the Kiwis and North Americans, what can you say?

However, I was greatly disallusioned to find out that in England, the following items are now considered rare and foreign: proper fish & chips, a proper curry at any time anywhere, ginger beer, sticky toffee pudding, spotted dick, and gooseberry crumble! All have been replaced by American fast food, and huge waistlines! Everywhere I went and asked for the British culinary standards were clueless as to where I would find such rare and obscure dishes.

How sad indeed!

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE DIE VERSKRIKLIKE
Amsterdam

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 02:18:50 (PDT)


Oops forgot to cancell the "Bold" printing. Thinking of "Women in the Flesh" confused me.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 00:33:20 (PDT)


Women in the Flesh?!!
George Maxwell, you must have missed something. Strip-poker, striptease or what is the other one they play "truth or dare"? Anyway, lets wait for Johnny Greens photos. I heard he was lying on the dancefloor taking pictures. Yes, that must be why his photos were delayed being proccessed. Either the Vice Squad have them or the photo shop are drooling over them.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Thursday, May 09, 2002 at 00:31:36 (PDT)


Linda Dore

All that you see is mine and natural!

Glenda

Women in the flesh? Did I miss something?

George MaxwellClick here to contact me
Draughty Edwardian house in Edinburgh
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 16:11:51 (PDT)


G'day from WA

Fantastic pictures, Heather - thank you and well done!
The years have been good to you all.
Didn't you all Wallow Well!


Sue FordeClick here to contact me
Perth, Western Australia
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 15:46:09 (PDT)



Calamity Calamity I went to collect the piccy's at 3 pm as promised and KODAK had not returned them there excuse the Bank holidays have thrown them out of kilt will try again casasa. Regards Johnny. Sorry Elias another sleepless night.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 11:41:52 (PDT)


David Norris
I remind you of the pledge you made lat year and inform you that in 35 and a half hours time the rifle shot will signal the start of the 2002 River Lure.
I await your most urgent response as we may be a bit late for the weigh in if I have to go to Manchester and back.

Chris SwartClick here to contact me
Kitwe
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 10:25:19 (PDT)



Elias patience my lad I collect mine at 3 pm today but then I have to scan and post them all to Arthur, Arthur how many shall I send at one session I would think we will get 4 or five on one scan but there is a lot to send and I dont want to swamp you out, Elias I will send you a preview of some of them direct to alleviate your pining for beautiful girls Shalla Mushy Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 06:51:43 (PDT)


ELIAS

You should have been there!!!! We ladies are much better looking in the flesh!!!!

Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 06:26:00 (PDT)


More pictures of those lovely women please!


Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 05:26:02 (PDT)


Oops! Sorry! .... and the winner is..... Mr Garlick. Thank you.

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 00:34:54 (PDT)



Dear Fiona do you really sleep at night? after watching your antics of the past few days I did not think you ever went to bed never mind sleep.
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Well done Meneer Garlic you were the one who said the word was Chiquaqua.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 08, 2002 at 00:17:35 (PDT)


IAN FORBES & HELEN CHILESHE

..... and the winners are...! Yes, thank you the word we were looking for is definitely chiquaqua or chikwakwa. Thank you. Now I can sleep at night!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 23:54:11 (PDT)


Someone a while ago asked for the word for the "slasher", long blade for cutting grass. I finally remembered to ask my husband and he said that the Bemba word was Chikwakwa, but he wasn't sure about the nyanja translation. (He is Bemba so I imagine that he is correct!)

helen chilesheClick here to contact me
New Zealand
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 19:33:11 (PDT)


WALLOWERS
What a feast....the photos say it all, and Des kenny, that smile!!! do you ever stop smiling?? .......and the Politburo, trying to look stern .who are you trying to kid....such wonderful people....The photos are wonderful......

oh and the last photo,.....I think you have been sent to the dog box...oooops the hen house Elias....hehehehe

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 16:07:28 (PDT)


Mercy me! I am breathless after looking at the photos of you lot! What a lovely lot of piccies to pour over. I cannot wait for the rest.

George Maxwell
How long have you been colouring your hair. He! He! Either that, or you are 10 years younger than the rest of us??

MO
I would have loved to be there with you mate. We could have had a drink and a punch up for old times' sake. Luv ya!

Dawie
I heard you gave Moi Moo Five Cows a run for her money as the person most likely to cut a rug.

Carole
That brilliant smile! I remember one or two frisky young Kitwe men tripping over themselves to be on the receiving end of one of your smiles. You have not changed one bit!

Pappy
Why do you always look like the cat that got the cream? He! He! Amazing that you could get together with your sister after all these years.

COOOOOOOKIEEEEEE....

I laughed my head off at the final piccie. Thanks!

Linda Dore Hayes


Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 14:23:18 (PDT)


ARTHUR

Oh wow! What a relief Artie that you were able to recover the film. What a wonderful bunch of photo's! They show just what an excellent night it was. Bloody hell could you not airbrush out the double chin or the fag in hand! But it brought tears to my eyes that it was all over far too quickly. I'll scan and send my photos as soon as they are developed - guaranteed to bring even more tears to the eyes if they come out well.

HEATHER

Your comments about living in this fair and damp land echo my thoughts exactly exactly exactly!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 14:05:13 (PDT)


Dawie,

I have emailed the info that you want. Or do you want me to phone you?

Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 13:32:17 (PDT)


DES KENNY ............ YOU BLOODY LEGEND!!!!!!!! THANK YOU so very much for organising such a memorable reunion! I can only say that it was the biggest highlight of my life over the last nineteen and a half years and it could not have happened without you. All I can say is thank you, baie dankie, zikomo kwambiri, natotela saana, muchas gracias, bluddy ripper mate, you beauty, rip snorter .... etc etc etc.

IZZIE .............. you SHOULD have been here!

EVERYONE ELSE ............. Arthur's baladdy keyboard is upside down and the blood has rushed to my head so I shall not go on as I can no longer think. But thank you.

Lots of love
MO





Well, I have been far too busy to post much of late - been learning all sorts of new tricks from Arthur, Dawie and Craig.

Des Kenny - thank you for everything and I am sooooo sorry I forgot the bottle of Mosi!! I will remember next time - I promise!!

Brasso and Julie - thank you for the gift. It will be carried back very carefully. And am I really that bad that I have been changed from 'that Chalcraft Woman' to 'that Chalcraft WomEn'

George Maxwell - thank you for allowing me to steal your cap. It will also be looked after most carefully.

Fi Gayther - email me your postal address and I'll put your Lowdown in the mail.

Andy Torrance - thank you for cooking my steroidal, hormonal steak. I reckon a good vet would have been able to get it going again - perfect.

Elias - yes, in Stockport with Arthur!!! Just imagine!

Kev Shone - sorry I didn't phone you on Monday - too much to do before I left.

Now, would I really like to live in a country where:
you have to pack your own groceries at the supermarket;
there are no waiters to take your orders in the pub and where you have to lift yourself off your fundamental orifice and place your own order;
you have to fill your own vehicle with fuel and no one washes your windscreen;
you have to walk to the cashier to pay for said fuel;
you have to dodge the potholes in the road;
where the sun doesn't go down until nine o'clock at night and even then it doesn't get properly dark;
where you can't see the Southern Cross?

Dawie, Arthur, Craig - after the many millions of words that have gone between us on email, it was like a dream to finally meet you. And you're all much, much better in person than you are on email. Thanks for everything.

Craig - you had better start delegating the organisation of the Reunion in Vancouver to Ron Sayer - I guess it is time I visited Canada.

Dawie - you had better rest very well for the next two days because this weekend it will be more than herrings, bitteballen and Jenever. I'm thinking about what comes after the Kafue. Give me five minutes.

Arthur - Considering all your other assets, I forgive you for being so short.

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from a Northerner who is now very far North!


Heather ChalcraftClick here to contact me
Lusaka
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 13:02:07 (PDT)



Dear Alix an ANORACK is from a very strange tribe residing in the jungles around Stockport they are close to extinction now owing to the enormous amounts of liquor that they have become used to, usually fed to them by Canadians. They some times assume non de plumes of names like head master and have been known to deliver corpral punishment to tardy posters so watch your bum in future, love Johnny.

john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 11:28:01 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S ! !

Thanks to all who have expressed their support and their condolences for Dutch leader of Leefbaar Nederland, Pim Fortuyn. As many of you know, I finally found someone in whom to support politically in this man. Many Dutch people are in mourning tonight. There are a row of reefs at the National Monument on the Dam I noticed as I took the No. 14 tram to the Rembrandtsplein, where this Internet cafe is located. I will go out tonight to a local pub, where a number of his supporters will gather. The nation is in shock.

Don't forget that there were many photos taken at the Wallasey GNR event, and so in the next few weeks, we will see them posted on the Message Board.

A good photo will be the one of the entire management team of the Great North Road together for the first time ever! Don't miss that frightening event!

Tot ziens!

Vriendelijke groeten...

DAWIE VAN DER BLIKSEM

Heather: what comes after the Kafue on the GNR? Help!

Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 11:13:35 (PDT)


Marion
I think you meant to say 'Zimbabwean leader' unless you mean Ian Smith who is the surviving 'Rhodesian leader'. Mugabe of course, was never a Rhodesian leader.

In the old days they used to say, "Come to Rhodesia and see the Zimbabwe Ruins". Now they say, "Come to Zimbabwe and see the Rhodesia Ruins".

By the way the name Zimbabwe means 'Houses of Stone'.

Winter has definitely arrived in RSA. Last night there were -3c and -2c in several places.

Cheers - Doug

Doug GrewarClick here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 10:57:56 (PDT)


Des et al

Thank you for a wonderful weekend in Wallasey - the weather, the company, the food(what happened to the nshima??) and the hotel were excellent! I am already looking forward to September, Brasso! And Elias, no excuses! If you are not there we will send "the boys" to fetch you!

Craig and Heather

Fantastic to meet you both. Hope you enjoy the rest of your stay and have safe journeys home.


Dawie

I am glad you never suffered at the hands of Virgin Trains on your return journey! But more important ...what a dreadful and tragic event the assasination of Pym Fortyn was!

Hugs to all on the GNR

Jacqui MilwardClick here to contact me
London
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 09:55:08 (PDT)


Marg de Lange

Thank you very much for the CD,it`s just arrived and I`m busy listening to it while writing this message.Please say thanks to your friend.
thanks again.

Lydia

lydia BeckClick here to contact me
Coningsby Lincoln uk
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 06:10:12 (PDT)


Dawie
I quote "enough is enough"
why is it that the good have to die with a bullet....
may Pym rest in peace....

Glad you had a wonderful time with the Wallowers, and that you can get down and boogie with the rest of them.....

Alix

PS Moira moo five cows
may I ask what is a chief Anorack?????

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 04:10:34 (PDT)


Dawie,

as soon as i read the news this morning, I remembered that he was your candidate of choice and popped over to see if you had commented. Its a bit of a shock! I too extend my sympathies to his family, etc. Of course i am curious to see how well the country copes with this! I particularly like the following quote

"Respect for each other means you fight with words, not bullets," said Kok, the outgoing prime minister. "What has happened here is indescribable

..so what does everyone think, are we headed toward Armageddon? ( just a theory i have heard floating around with more frequency lately)

..its strange how real maggoty leaders, like Idi , and a certain Rhodesian leader, and a few other real tyrants, lead to a grand old age without assassination, and people in supposedly civilized countries are assassinated !

keep well
m



Marion MurphyClick here to contact me
USA
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 03:30:53 (PDT)


DAWIE

I was very sad to hear of the murder of Pym Fortuyn. He seemed a very charismatic, if controversial man who brought a bit of colour into the boring world of politics. Glad you made it back ok. Des was not the bad speller - you need to set your sights somewhat lower to find the culprit!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 02:59:25 (PDT)


N O R T H E R N E R S !

What a superb success at Wallasey! Good work Des in starting and arranging the whole event---brilliant perserverance and excellent management! To all those in the UK area who missed this event, you should really try and make the next one. The Brit contingent of the GNR does a superb job at partyin'-on-down! I didn't even have to take over the DJ-ing, it was done in pro-style. AND, I actually got up and boogie, which means the music taste passed my stringent standards!

I enjoyed meeting so many people. Putting so many faces to names and nom-de-plumes was difficult, at my ripe old age, but thanks to Des, we all got named-t-shirts... albeit some had spelling errors and typos... in Des Kenny style!

I was particularily happy to see the 130 block of Geddes Street of Nkana-East the best represented of all of Northern Rhodesian/Zambian neighbourhoods: the Crouches and the Coopers making up this handsome element of our population: Des Kenny, Lynda Kruger, Denise (nee) Crouch, and yours truly!

I jumped the 8:15 for London at Lime Street, and everything went smooth as silk all the way back to Amsterdam Centraal. A rather sad and terrible thing has happened here in Nederland, as some of you may have read in the papers. Pim Fortuyn (the head of the Leefbaar Nederland political party that I supported) was assassinated. He was an openly gay candidate who had strong policies against immigrants who are opposed to Nederland's liberal politics. He had gained large support in Nederland's electorate and could have been the next prime minister. This is the first assasination in Nederland's modern political history and has come as a shock to the nation. Fortuyn had won seats in the Rotterdam municipal council. I am greatly saddened.

I can only offer my wishes for strength to the Fortuyn family and supporters!

As for the next GNR event in the UK area, I will definitely go again, and hope that all UK area residents will join me.

Tot ziens.

Vriendelijke groeten...

Dawie van der Bliksem

Bringing the Kafue to Amsterdam!


Dave CooperClick here to contact me
Amsterdam
Tuesday, May 07, 2002 at 01:16:04 (PDT)


Gary

Why not "surprise plan" the next bash at Eliwoose's house?

Rest of us non-Wallaseyers, yeth, we mithed a very good bash BUT WE'RE SO GLAD YOU HAD FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tina



Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 21:12:53 (PDT)


Elias

Chief Anorak, you really must see someone about this numbers obsession you have! I think you were first to post after Wallasey! AND you were'nt even there! A severe beating is in order!

We missed meeting you, but obviously too scared to face the females you have spent months upsetting, oh well perhaps next time.

Moo

Moira FenwickClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey, England - since 1984
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 16:24:07 (PDT)


BWANA GRINS

In spite of your horrible maggotty emails (you at least have obviously recovered), you are an absolute sweetheart and I am not in the least surprised that strange young women want to snog you (myself included - note the YOUNG bit!) It was wonderful to see you again and I'm glad your NR Police badge was recovered. It would be dreadful to think you had to pay £10 for ANOTHER one! Thanks for the choccies and sweets and look forward to seeing you again in SEPTEMBER!!!

DIANE

Thanks for coming with me and thanks for your help. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much. Told you you would.

MOPSIE

What can I say? It was just so wonderful to meet you in person at last. I love you just as much in person as I do in chats. Thanks for the laughs - my ribs and cheeks are still hurting! Also thanks for all the goodies you brought - my daughter is now in Violet Crumble heaven! Have a wonderful stay with Artie and family and keep in touch - you are a little flower!

MOO MOO

Thanks you so much for the patch up job! You are a good mate!

ARTIE

Again, what can I say? In spite of my faux pas it was still one of the most wonderful moments of my life when you and Mo were reunited. I hope I caught it all on camera and that I'll have the photos back very shortly. GNR's, I should tell you that the whole bar, GNR members, bar staff and other residents were in tears and I was honoured and glad to be a part of it. All credit to Des whose idea it was in the first place.

GARY & ALAN

Bloody hell you were fun! Gary, the Tee shirts are fantastic and Alan, where's my wedding invite? Love to all the Brassingtons. What a lovely family!

CRAIG

I am very glad to have met you at last. The Guiness brewers have now gone into mourning at your departure! I hope you will continue to attend the UK reunions as long as your liver will take it!

DAVE COOPER

Again, what can I say? Wonderful to have met you and I really enjoyed your company. The leg had no detrimental effect on the dancing and it was great to meet you at last. Looking forward to meeting you again one day and catching up on sharing a bowl of pea soup with you. Enjoy the rest of your stay. Did you ever get to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

HEATHER

Great to meet you at last too! Looking forward to seeing the itinerary for the Zambia reunion. Enjoy the rest of your stay. I forgot to get my Lowdown from you though. I'm buying the book you mentioned from Amazon tomorrow.

And last but most importantly

DESSIE

Goes without saying really. All my admiration goes to you for both Friday and Saturday nights - I know how much work went into it and you did a wonderful job. You even managed to keep the weather nice! Sorry about the sudsa - blame my apprentice - he seemed to think the boss should do all the work, and that he had four hours to do it in, but I forgive him for doing such a good foot massage! Please pass on my admiration to the man in the naughty apron for a really well cooked braai. I did thank him and shake him by the er...um... hand!

TO ALL WHO MISSED THE OCCASION

Really make an effort to get to the next reunion in September. I know Gary will do a great job and you won't regret coming. Bloody hell, Northern Rhodesians know how to party party party - even in the hotel corridors when the booze has apparently run out (but mysteriously appears when a fifty quid changes hands!





Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 16:08:23 (PDT)


To the Putu Assistant (Wontok)

I heard that you had served your apprenticeship and were now able to make reasonably good sudsa by yourself. This must have been some time ago as the quantity of water was a bit over the top. Pity everyone didn't stay til 3 am when it was perfect! My feet are killing me. I think you broke a tendon with your massage! But thank you, it was a great at the time. Keep in touch and love to Debbie.

cheersandbeersandboereworsandreallykakudsa!

Fiona GaytherClick here to contact me
UK
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 14:29:22 (PDT)


What a brilliant weekend at Wallasey - many thanks to Fiona for persuading me to go with her and to Des for all his hard work. We couldnt face the drive back home yesterday so we stayed another night but it just wasnt the same without you all there. Mo - missed you at the pyjama party this morning - cant you stay longer and pay a visit? Have already booked out the September weekends on my calendar to make sure that I make it to the next one - see you all there.

Diane SewleyClick here to contact me
Bristol
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 06:37:59 (PDT)


Here is the next batch of recovering Wallowers
At number 6 is Johny Green who had a weight handicap and might have led.
Number 7 is Des Kenny who was also handicapped by having to clean up first.
Number 8 is Arthur Steevens also handicapped by damaging his "state of the art" camera.
Next at no 9 isGlenda Freeland who let Moira Fenwick get away from her.
Lydia Beck at no.10 is right behind Glenda.

I dont think anyone else will recover as quick as these 10 hardened drinkers, until possibly the Bank Holiday is over.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 06:23:59 (PDT)


Linda
My virus muncher squished them...and then deleted them for me, I am very wary of any email after the past few weeks with the porno ones I kept getting, but this is a different kettle of fish,these had names I didn't know either, but looked quite genuine, but the bug catcher wouldn't allow me to open them......nasty things. I have scanned my system twice today and both times I have been free of virees etc.....
who sends this rubbish???

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 06:07:03 (PDT)


Hi All:

I had the same problem as Alix with 2 virusessessi today. Also had the questionaire and it looked like it originated from you, Alix. This Klez virus is a sneaky skelum... I seem to be getting a lot through Joy Alexander in Botswana. Not necessarily from her, but from people in her address book. I am no longer opening any emails whatsoever from anyone who has not emailed me in the past, unless it comes through the GNR email procedure, so be aware of that if you would like to contact me. If you have emailed me in the past, but want to send me an attachment with piccies of you, please clear it with me ahead of time, or I won't open it. Thanks.

Moira:
I cannot believe you did not show the party goers that famous party trick of yours. Nobody does it quite like you..

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 05:54:54 (PDT)


Hi! all,
Had great time at Wallasey bash,had wonderful time meeting old friends and acquintances,realy pleased went in the end.Pappy doesn`t change even after 18 years,he had me crying with laughter all night,how he could stand at the end of the night I will never know.My son JR say thanks to everyone for making him feel so welcome,and that he`s enjoying his crate of Lion,the bus driver at Leeds wouldn`t let him get on the bus until he showed him
what he had wrapped up in his jacket,showed him the crate and was told to put it in the baggage compartment think he though the boy was going to party on the bus.Hee!hee!

Alan Brassington,
I told you it wasn`t me that chased you round the tables at the club.Was lovely to see you and all your family again,your dad looks so well,shame about you and your brother,only joking,you all looked great,the twins are still as lovely as ever say hi to them for me.

to everyone again,hope that one day we`ll all me again,
be good take care,

Lydia
PS wouldn`t say Pappy was drunk,but couldn`t remember there being an auction,even though he did take over for awhile,poor sole,he well earned the head ache he had in the morning.hee! love you brother dear.

lydia BeckClick here to contact me
Coningsby Lincoln uk
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 05:03:54 (PDT)


Des Kenny

Well done, it was fantastic!!! It was great meeting all the names on the board and lets hope more can make the next one!!!

Hope Heather, Craig, Dave (my friend forever!!!) and Moira have a wonderful stay. It was a pleasure to meet them.

ELIAS

You woose!!!!!

Glenda FreelandClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 03:02:35 (PDT)


Hi all
Just a warning my bug muncher has caught three viruses or virii today all under the guise of questioniares ...so be on the watch for them..all contain the elkern scr virus.....
oh and a little fly in the ointment..oops.... eye one as well hey Mr Green!!!!!!

Wallowers,
From the reports so far it sounds as though you all had a thoroughly wonderful time....just HURRY with the pics, and more reports etc.....
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Monday, May 06, 2002 at 01:48:16 (PDT)


Des, Fi, Brasso, and other Monsters et al,

You conniving, scheming, secretive, lying, umm, Northerners.

Just you baladdy wait, all your cards are marked and I WILL take revenge, the headmasters office awaits you all.

What else can I say - just the biggest baladdy THANK YOU in the world.

You people are stars - all of you.

Obviously Friday night was the highlight of the weekend for me and will never be equalled, ever.

Des you did a fabulous job - the Wallasey Wallow will go down as one of the greatest in the history of the Great North Road. The braai - fantastic work Alan, and to all the others who put so much effort into a making the weekend so successful you have done brilliantly.

I will be a little late posting the photos taken at the bash, camera was crushed as I shut the boot of the car - thankfully the Smartcard with all the photos seems undamaged. Hopefully all you keen photographers will be sending in the snaps you all took very soon and I will get them on display. In particular I want the film from Johnny Green's camera, he claims he's an old man - well never mind the dancers - Johnny's contortions on the floor, as he took low level shots of the dancing girls, beat them out all out of sight. Johnny I want to see the shots you took - they must on sale now.. specially the sort you are blocked from sending.

Elias - you are a woose - therefore you are demoted with immediate effect. Please report on your knees to your new boss - Bwana Gary Brassington, you will supply him with devotion and backbreaking support without him hearing a cluck.

The other members of the "Management" are sleeping their heads off just now, claiming jetlag as the cause, so a further report will follow a little later this week from us all.

Des - I cannot thank you enough.


Arthur


Arthur SteevensClick here to contact me
Romiley Stockport Cheshire UK
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 17:51:16 (PDT)


Just a short story I feel I need to share with all the readers.
On Thursday night I went out for a drink with Johhny, anyway we went into this pub in Wallasey ( i havn`t been in this pub for about 10 years). We were sitting there quietly having a few drinks when my sister appears. Anyway to cut a long story short, we went into the karaoke room next door, we were standing there watching the people sing, when this girl comes up to Johnny and says,`excuse me I just have to do this` she throws her arms around him and gives him a big kiss.
Whatever he`s got I want some of it.

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 15:00:19 (PDT)


To All who attended.

Anyone who hasn`t got a hangover never attended.
Never in the field of human drinking has so much been drunk by so few in such a short period of time.

Cookie Monster.....I take my hat off to you, after what you drank in the Lighthouse at lunchtime I never thought you`d make it through the night.....but you did.

It was great to meet so many people, Craig and Heather, you came a very long way, I just hope you feel the journey was worth it.

The singing of AG PLEEZE DADDY has never been done with so much enthusiasm.

Anyway, I hope that everyone enjoyed themselves

Can`t wait for Gary Brassingtons, Bash in September ( If you can`t remember Gary, we told you that you were doing the next one).

Anyone who wants a t-shirt, please contact Gary, and on a personal note to Gary, thanks very much for all your help mate.If you need any help with your bash in September, sod off , don`t ask me ......ha ha.

Des KennyClick here to contact me
Wallasey, England ( just outside Liverpool ).
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 14:17:15 (PDT)



What a great 3 days it may take me 3 weeks to recover from it but well worth it, what a tirelss b----r Des Kenny is and what a great job he made of the Wallow in Wallesey and what great company had a marvellous time and yes Linda I did behave myself contrary to any stories that Craig and Arthur may come up with and may I say all the ladies who attended were beautiful and you have a feast coming yourway of some of the most complicated gyrations and wiggles you will ever see on a dance floor, and Dawie can certainly cut a rug not a lot of evidence of a damaged leg and that Chalcroft woman made all our days with her items she put up for auction she certainly made mine when she presented me with a K10,000 note as my grandson is a collector of currencies he will certainly appreciate it, on my way home this morning I dragged my poor abused body and two heavy suitcases to Lime St station and after getting of the underground train to catch the main liner to Yorkshire, when I arrived at the esculator that takes you up to main station it was Kaput and I had to drag my over hung body plus luggage up an incline of over 250 feet and you should have been able to here my curses back in Wallesey as I climbed about 500 steps but all well worth it, and once again Des thanks a lot for all your help you are a hero,
Bye for now more tommorow Johnny.

PS and to my buddy Gilly Main thre is a rumour circulating that we may have another one in September so gird your loins.



john greenClick here to contact me
Scarborough-UK
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 13:59:43 (PDT)


George Maxwell and Moira Fenwick next
Any bets on the next two. Dont include Johnny Green, He has been up and about for a while now.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 13:43:06 (PDT)


Des

Well done, what a night, to those of you who can't remember what you were up to, the negatives can be purchased at a reasonable rate, just follow the link on this page Elias will operate as my agent. Where did all those bleddy squatters that were sleeping in my room appear from?

Great to meet so many of you.

George MaxwellClick here to contact me
Draughty Edwardian house in Edinburgh
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 13:34:52 (PDT)


Oops, you can see I am a tad hungover, sorry about the bold message!

On a more serious note, just picked up an E-mail from my sister Linda Burns asking to post a message of condolance to Rob Kelly's family from the Burns family and I would like to join in that.

Much sympathy to the Kelly family at this sad time.

Just goes to show, enjoy every moment and sieze every opportunity, life is very short.

Better go before I get soppy!




Moira FenwickClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey, England - since 1984
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 13:33:28 (PDT)


Hello everyone

Well! A huge thank you to Des and everyone involved with making the Wallasey reunion such great fun! Big thanks to Mark Bennett for his 1000 mile round trip to get Glenda and me there and back safely and particularly for staying awake the during trip back (very useful as he was driving), with no help from us, Glenda snoring away in the back and me doing my nodding dog impression in the front! Our fault for insiting on staying up to watch the sun rise!

What can I say, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant and I wish I could remember what my 'special' party trick was so that I could have done it!

Did enjoy the dancing and dragging virtually everyone up at one point or another whether they liked it or not! Selfish like that I am.

Fantastic to put real live (well almost) people to names like Craig (GOD), Dave and Heather and everyone else I met for the first time.

Big, big mooo from Fivecows



Moira FenwickClick here to contact me
Dorking, Surrey, England - since 1984
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 13:17:42 (PDT)


So far only Barrie Braidford and Graham Nelson have surfaced

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 12:55:32 (PDT)


WELL DONE DES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheersnbeersworsnbiltong

PS Sack the Putu Chef.

Graham NelsonClick here to contact me
Bath UK
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 12:26:50 (PDT)


Hi, all, Just returned from the Bash, 14-00,GMT, long drive but lovely weather, Motorway driving all the way, very hairy in places. What can I say?/ really nice putting faces to names and nick names, Moira Moo-moo 5 cows didnt do her speciallity that I know of but she was dancing most of the night, she may have performed it out of sight, as it was very crowded,and very noisy. As for the best tap dancer??
I dont know, but for sheer vitality and energy I must vote for Alan Brassington, alias Cookie, He had me knackered just watching him, Im sure he must have broken a leg or something. The hotel was excellent and after breakfast this morning , no one really wanted to leave. My wife did enjoy herself immensly and is now looking forward to the next one.
Regards for now, we are going to bed for a kip, Barribee.

Barrie BraidfordClick here to contact me
Newcastle upon tyne, England.
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 07:00:56 (PDT)


Marilyn Noall
I received your email and replied to the email address that wason it......however,it bounced back to me.. I did send another, through the names directory, did you get that one.??
Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Sunday, May 05, 2002 at 04:44:38 (PDT)


The GNR comes through again. An email from Carole Bruce after 24yrs! Great to hear from you Carole. I have responded and hope to hear all your news and experiences at the Wallasey Whoop Up!

Elias, I think you made a wise decision to stay home. At least your reputation will remain intact. No doubt the rest of these reprobates will be denying everything for weeks to come. He! He!

Did anyone persuade Moi Moo Five Cows to do her specialty trick this time around. Never quite figured out how she was able to contort her body like that...

Needless to say, we are all out here waiting for piccies of you lot chomping down on boerwors and sudza and killing the Lions, while we sit around turning various shades of green.

And WHO is the reigning tap dancer after it all???

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 18:40:22 (PDT)


ELIAS GEORGHOPLESSNESS!!!!!
Where did you learn to spell, in case you have not realised, my name is spelled with an "i" not an "e"
and WHY ARE YOU NOT ATTENDING THE WALLOW...I would give my eye teeth to be there, .....
ciao
Alixandria

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 00:36:19 (PDT)


Oops, Craig HARTNETT is awake or hasnt been to bed yet. Is it jet lag?
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 00:33:56 (PDT)


Elias!

And you too have made a spelling mistake. Please report to the headmaster's office (he's here and expecting you) with my surname correctly spelled 1000 times. You can still make it. This little island (where it is actually sunny today!) is not that big that you can't make it here before tonight for a few hours of fun.

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 00:22:40 (PDT)


Alex Key, Linda H. and Gill Main(Grot)
I just wanted to jump in quickly before those Wallowers wake up and hog the Board.
They must be having a great time because Craig Hartnet has actually made a spelling mistake. Check his message just below. This is another FIRST and is now recorded together with the photographic proof of Arthur smiling.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 00:16:13 (PDT)


Dear Arthur and Mo, glad it is still possible to make a wonderful surprise happen.

Yep, magic happens on this site. Waahay you dear Wallasey Wallowers. Similar hellos to everyone else out there around the world not Wallaseying. Hugs to you, buddies in the GNR. Enjoy your weekend.

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Saturday, May 04, 2002 at 00:11:24 (PDT)


Folks

A chance to hear the old boy on WED 8 MAY at the Royal Air Force Club, 128 Piccadilly, from 7 to 9pm - he is getting old!

See the attached application form for booking @ £25 per head.

I am off to it; who else??


If possible, please forward the mail to anyone who may be interested.


Below is the content of a letter that came with the form:

This is a somewhat hurried letter to you to let you know that the Conservative Monday Club which is hosting a Reception for Ian Smith is very happy to extend the invitation to the supporters of the Rhodesia Christian Group.

Lord Sudeley indicated today how pleased he would be for all those many friends who support us to join him and his colleagues at this special function.

Ian only arrived last weekend and when I spoke to him it was clear that he was under the weather. However, he made it very clear that there were a number of things he wished to do while he was in London. He is obviously very concerned at the turn of events in Zimbabwe and is looking for all the support he can get, with the prime objective of alleviated the current suffering in his own country.

While there are many who are third generation Zimbabweans who feel they have no alternative but to leave, there are of course many millions who have no option but to stay and suffer either the retribution from government agencies or starvation as the farming industry is destroyed. We are receiving letters that read along these lines: "I am a third generation Rhodesian and have lived in this country happily all my life. When Rhodesia became Zimbabwe I tried to become a loyal Zimbabwean and I extolled the virtues of Zimbabwe to all my friends abroad. However, over these last few years things have been going from bad to worse." This particular person said that a few days ago they beat up a woman who was doing nothing other than reading a copy of The Daily News whilst sitting in a commuter omnibus. The same person wrote: "Although I am near the end of my career and should be able to enjoy my retirement, I feel I am unable to do so. I was comparatively wealthy, but my life savings have been eroded by hyper-inflation and I can see no future for myself here any longer." Of course, for the poor it is starvation and the pitiful situation that unless something is done very urgently, many people are going to suffer. So I hope that you will be able to join us on this occasion.

Ian Smith needs all the encouragement he can get and certainly the goodwill from us who understand so completely the dire straits that all the peoples of Zimbabwe are in.

I extend to you my very good wishes.

Denis Walker


Richard D KnellerClick here to contact me
Danbury Essex
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 23:02:37 (PDT)


Hi all
I have those misty eyes again, wow, I am lost for words, just the look on the faces of brother and sister, Arthur and Moira...how wonderful...This road they call the great north road it is such a brilliant piece of engineering... no wonder it has the word "great" ..., Dawie...that idea you had ....do you realise the impact that it has had on so many lives......thank you!!
Craig....hic...great to see you with the others having fun.....

Alix

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 18:35:34 (PDT)


Elias,

You... whatever,

Hic!

I have heard that you won't be here. I'm sorely disappointed. Friday night was such a good evening. Wish you were here. It's not too late. Get on a bloody train.

It's so good to put names to faces. I can't wait for tomorrow night. Met Fiona, Diane, Des, Arthur, Johnny, Ken, Moira, Denise and Des' other sister (sorry, had a few to many Guiness') tonight. Can't wait for tomorrow night. Did I memtion that?

Hic!

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 16:35:27 (PDT)


Garry Brasso
While you are still able to stand, dont forget the picture of you standing on a chair looking up at Des Kenny. This is at the request of alix Key.
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 16:16:27 (PDT)


Arthur Steevens SMILED !!!!
Des was the cause his lovely sister or your beer?
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 13:44:34 (PDT)


Moira and Artie
At last!!! You have no idea how hard it has been for those of us who knew, to keep this secret!! I am so happy it was pulled off without a word breathed to you, Artie. I would have done anything to be there to see the look on your face.
Thanks for the piccie, Craig. Moira and I go waaaaay back, don't we Moira? How are your boxing skills these days. He! He! You look fabulous. Life has treated you well, my friend. Can't wait for the rest of the piccies. Hope Bwana Grins is behaving himself... Hmmm.

Have fun, everyone!

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 13:23:31 (PDT)


Chris Drake
Yes Chris - Callups were too frequent but we had some good times.
regards

Bill HuntClick here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 13:12:45 (PDT)


WALLASET WALLOW - The Partaay has Started!

CRAIG - Many thanks for posting the Sis & Bro reunion picture taken at Wallasey earlier this evening! Wonderful. It's been "hell" keeping the secret from Arthur! Mo - so delighted U have been able to see brother again after 18 years!

SARKYARTHUR - We gotcha!!!!!!!!!! And the party continues Saturday May 4 - we still have more tricks up our sleeves!

Have a brilliant Friday nite booze up - see U all tomorrow!

Des Kenny - wonderful gesture mate - U R one in a million chum!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 12:53:36 (PDT)


Important Announcement

Breaking news from Wallasey....

My apologies for breaking my own rule about in-line images, but this one was 18 years in the making. Please also excuse any speeling misteaks as I've already had a few.

Pictured, left to right, are Moira Steevens, Arthur Steevens, and the guilty party, Des Kenny. Des is responsible for bringing Moira and Arthur together for the first time in 18 years... without Arthur knowing in advance. It was quite an emotional scene, and the picture speaks for itself.



You shoulda been here!

Craig HartnettClick here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 12:30:01 (PDT)


Arthur
Thanks for Kasanshi article & pic.
It triggered memories of the time I spent on the Congo border during the 60s when the Congo crisis was in full swing & my Battalion 3rd RRR was called up to patrol the border.
On one occasion we explored the old Kansanshi copper workings & I remember being astounded at the narrow deep vertical shafts that had been sunk into the solid rock outcrops in the area, some feat for those times.
regards


Bill HuntClick here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 12:17:54 (PDT)


HI!I'm still trying to contact Lucille Cook nee Ball,If anyone know's her where abouts, please ask her to contact me. Thankyou. Jim Cash

Jim CashClick here to contact me
Btitish Columbia, Canada
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 10:04:15 (PDT)


What a sad shock to learn of the passing of Rob Kelly. I remember him as a really decent person and perfect gentleman. My condolences to his wife and daughters and to his sisters Beryl, whom I went to Kitwe Primary with, and Linda. Rest in peace, old friend.

Linda Dore Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 09:57:22 (PDT)


It was with saddeness that I learnt of the death (1/5/2002) of Rob Kelly (ex Ndola/Kitwe). My heartfelt condolences to Gill and his two daughters.



Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 05:44:42 (PDT)


Hello All

Have a luverly Wallow. Wish I could come - need a break after the marathon move! Have you ever tried to squeeze the contents of a 375 square metre house into a 175 square metre one? Well, it doesn't work - second option - storage until the house is built.

Oh well - next month we are going to be just across the river from Zambia at Mana Pools for a week - can't wait - that's if we survive the journey up! He! He!

Love to y'all - and don't worry Linda, me and my computer are both virus free (as far as I know!)

Jilly

Jill AplinClick here to contact me
RSA
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 02:32:51 (PDT)


Elias ......

Having completed an exhastive audit of my inheritance, it has come to light that the 168 pounds was never received.

We left Zambia on December 18, 1964 .... I can only assume that some of the family heirlooms were auctioned off..

When sending me the replacement cheque. I can only presume that you will add interest. Paymrnt in U.S. Dollars would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Ken

Kenneth (Ken) MillerClick here to contact me
705-1285 Richmond Rd., Ottawa, Canada, K2B 7Z4
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 02:18:21 (PDT)


Kenny Miller
The board is nice and quiet with all the drunken members of to Wallesey. Great story and pictures of Kasama. I see you and your Dad havent changed much over the years. Now Ken, I need to probe your memory. I was going through an old handwritten cashbook of my dads and found an entry dated 3 November 1964. It was a payment of £168 and 15 shillings to Ross Merson and Co for the account of Tommy Miller. Your dad was always perfectly honest so what would my dad be paying him £168 for? Any ideas?
As far as I can remember Ross Merson and Co were auctioneers or real estate agents.
Best regards
Elias

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Friday, May 03, 2002 at 01:44:25 (PDT)


All the BASHERS - Wallow Well!

All the Contributors of prose and photos - FANTASTIC!

Sue FordeClick here to contact me
Perth, Western Australia
Thursday, May 02, 2002 at 08:27:17 (PDT)


Wallasey Wallow drawing ever so near!

To those driving & braving the Bank Holiday motorway congestion - drive carefully and no speeding!

To those using the Railways and Public Transport - may " The Gods" be with you - and (hopefully) we'll see you there!

To all of us attending - may the English weather grant us a unique rare glimpse of blue skies, sunshine and warmth!!!!

To those NOT attending from the shores of this Fair and Frosted Land - pitty you were not able to attend - we will be sad our UK friends are not able to partake.

To those in far off shores - thanks for your good wishes - we will toast U all on the nite. I am sure there will be many pictures posted in the weeks and months following the Great event.

Des Kenny - keep the beer cold - ETA Wallasey Saturday moring is expected to be 10.00 to 10.30 Hrs!

Fiona Gayther (Fi Fi) - be on your best behaviour until I arrive saturday. The "wife" has been briefed and knows to expecta a change in behaviour patterns!

Gary BrassingtonClick here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., UK
Thursday, May 02, 2002 at 07:41:10 (PDT)


To the organisers of the Wallasley wingding :

I am intrigued about the LION that keeps being noasted about. As far as I am aware it is no longer brewed in Zambia (or am I wrong here) Is it the Zimbabwe variety that you have. Hope it is not South African. The new Lion down here is like making love in a canoe!

Hope you all enjoy yourselves and have one for me.
Looking forward to seeing the photogs.

Brian TownsendClick here to contact me
Fourways, Sandton, Johannesburg, South Africa
Thursday, May 02, 2002 at 04:03:45 (PDT)


Watch your back, Georgiehopeless. I can see I shall have to step up my insulting so that I can at least get a more honourable mention for my efforts the next go around.. he! he! At least now we know where your other postings came from last week.

Now that I can access the photos on the GNR again, I must thank you all again for the wonderful feelings they evoke. Even Dorrington with his Land Cruiser gave the old heart a flutter. Thanks Gordon... He! He! Oh, stop it!! I really am happily married.

Craig
Any thoughts on a link to a "Members Poetry Corner". I think there are a number of folks who would like to contribute, as I have seen beautiful poems written about our lives in Africa. I promise not to send any of my silly limericks, even..

Has anyone had any contact with Jill Aplin in the last week?

You jammy buggers in Wallasey better raise a glass for me and Beauteous the Departed!

Linda (Dore) Hayes

Linda HayesClick here to contact me
Austin, Texas USA
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 19:15:19 (PDT)


Hi All
With misty eyes, for more than one reason, I have been so overwhelmed by Ken Millers posting and photos, what a wonderful account of your life in NR ..to think I was born in that beautiful country...........
.... and then to Eliases photos and commentry, yes I can remember the days when the men secretly permed their hair etc, nowadays it is makeup and facials I believe, what progress in our wonderful world...
........and then to Arthurs wonderful posting, just superb, one can imagine a little boy called Dawie in awe thinking what will I explore today...the smells the sights, and the history, I am so so lucky to have found the GNR,with the portrayals of my beloved land of birth so enriching....I am so profoundly grateful..thank you..

Elias
yes well ..what can one say about the ones from south of the border other than, they give the poor Mariachi singers a bad name.....thank goodness we have Craig, Heather, and Arthur ...and the rest of us who have NR/Zambia at heart, and would never stoop to a mess like that......

To the Wallasey bashers......!!!!
Have a wonderful time, give it your all, and come back safely to give us a full pictorial and literal account of the weekend........ lucky beggars........


Ali

Alixandria KeyClick here to contact me
Perth Australia...
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 17:57:32 (PDT)


Voice found again....

To the Wallasey-Bound, "Bon Voyagey" as Bugs Bunny would say. Have a wonderful wonderful time.

Ken - That was a a posting to treasure, one-of-a-kind pictures and narration, so evocative of the very best that could come out of that time. I adore the picture of dignified, kindly Paramount Chief Chitimakulu with your grubby happy little hand stuffed into his.

Gordon, Elias, Heather, Jimmy, everyone - lovely photos. We are so richly spoiled with lovely photos and stories on this site.

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 16:29:05 (PDT)


Elias

Re. your last Eliasan posting.

Congratulations. I'm speechless. They said it couldn't be done.

Love ya,

Tina

Tina MageeClick here to contact me
Texas
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 15:45:40 (PDT)


re The Rhokana review on Kansanshi.

I could be wrong but I thought Kansanshi was pegged by Dr Anton Grey whom my father worked for in 1929. Not George Grey. Am I wrong? Mr Ginger Siddell of Chibuluma eletrical fame work at Kansanshi in the early 50's. I knew his sons Darryl and Terrance.
Ken Miller -- I have sent Bwana Steevens a picture of my dad's Hudson vanette. (Pickup Truck)to the Americans.

Gordon GarlickClick here to contact me
Aberdeen, New Jersey. The United States of America
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 15:35:11 (PDT)



Occasionally there is a big uproar on the GNR when someone feels they have been insulted. Usually the "insult" is very mild and even the insults from Linda Hayes, Heather Chalcraft and even Gordon Garlick are very harmless. Have a look at these taken from Zambian Message Board. These are the more presentable few:-

"Janet Drop dead Beautiful?" By grandmama Janet herself? Why is your head so big, you old grazer? Is it the wine that makes you so vain? Damn bitch

"...yep I managed to get rid of the beer swilling, hanging stomach kraut...I am now in control as he cries at home unemployed...guess what he had a masters degree...too."

"Blacks dont and never have intimidated me. My nanny was a black woman and I love her as much as I love my mother. Other black people think that I am very reasonable as I talk to them just like any other people."

You fuddy-dudddy..you need to spend more time with your grandchildren and those chickens....you will be understood by them. Do not waste our time on this forum, and I speak for every-one. You are a terrible bore.

In case you are not aware, Janet is a rabid dog.

You are no better than Janet. The three of you are filthy dogs.

You idiot! All this time I thought you were a teenager. What's wrong with your head? A 37 year old cow, and you can't even talk sense. Shia!

I'm not a geriatrician and never studied geriatrics, you retarded, tired, old mammary snob.

grandmother Wentworth has no chickens or cows to be proud of in her old age.
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Now Craig Hartnet, has a very polite way of banning offenders from the GNR compared with this site. If I try and post a message on that board, I press the "send" button. My message disappears and is replaced with this, "nice try f***k head"
So people dont take the few little insults seriously which some of us write up, they are all tongue in cheek.
Best regards
Elias


Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 15:31:59 (PDT)


Dawie

I noticed the fact that the birth of Great North Road happened on your own birthday SIX years ago and had gone unnoticed, quietly slipping by.

To celebrate this great occasion I have extracted something from my hordes for you, you may well remember this little town.

Arthur




Kansanshi

Click for image


THERE is a road west of Chingola and Nchanga, which leads to Bancroft. On this road, three miles from the roundabout at the Police Station is a junction where stands a sign post bearing the legend 'Solwezi'. Turn left at this sign and for 10 miles or so travel along a broad, gravel-surfaced highway, which suddenly converges onto the narrow confines of the old road to Solwezi.

Twenty miles out, where the road twists and turns through the thickly wooded bush, there may be signs that wild life is not so far from the towns as is believed-elephant droppings, and here and there a broken tree or branch, visible evidence of the presence of these mighty beasts.

Suddenly, when there appears to be no habitation or human in scores of miles, a yellow painted Provincial Works Department road grader emerges round a distant bend in the van of a dense, choking cloud of fine dust. Or it may be an African bus laden with laughing, chattering villagers on their way to town, a lorry heavily laden with goods for some distant trading store, Government post or Kansanshi Mine.

The lucky traveller may see some game, but usually the only apparent wild life is a baboon troop, which lives near the road in the vicinity of the 60-mile peg, or an unwary snake, which crosses the road in the path of the car.

Along the length of the road, situated at odd intervals, are African villages. Some, although not more than 100 yards from the road are almost invisible, for the pole and dagga huts, nestled together under the trees, blend well with the bush.

It is only in recent years that villages have been established near the main road. Government frowns on the movement to the road and District Commissioners and District Officers are hard put to convince the African that the advantages of staying near water and good soil, where clearings exist for crop planting, far outweigh and are more permanent than the dubious gains of living near the road.

Close on 120 miles from Chingola, where the road breasts a ridge, there is a cluster of buildings - small houses and a store on the roadside and, well back and surrounded by gardens and an orchard, the home of the Robinson family who have lived in that part for close on 20 years.

A mile or so on is the compound and headquarters of the Solwezi Native Authority - 30 or 40-whitewashed huts arranged in orderly lines surrounding the Native Authority administration block.

Opposite this 'village' is a sharp turning to the right, a signpost indicating that this is the road to Kansanshi copper mine. Six miles from here, when the traveller is seriously beginning to wonder whether he has in fact taken the right road, the bush suddenly, with an almost explosive impact, gives way to a large clearing, scattered with buildings and overlooked by Kansanshi Hill.

Here, at last, is Kansanshi Mine, 127 miles from Chingola and only eight or nine miles from the Belgian Congo border.
Kansanshi is, paradoxically, both newest and oldest mine in Northern Rhodesia. The site of ancient workings it was formally pegged and claimed for Tanganyika Concessions Ltd. by George Grey at 12 noon on September 6, 1899.

At one time a nourishing little community lived and worked at Kansanshi. Everywhere is evidence of an earlier industry-foundations of old buildings, the remains of a smelter, the headframes at the shaft heads (there are three shafts but only one is in immediate operation) the old dwelling house foundations, tennis courts' site and even the remains of a nine-hole golf course.

Kansanshi Hill is scarred by pits and trenches, some as deep as 100 feet, dug by early prospectors.

In 1931 Kansanshi mine closed down when difficulties were encountered that made further operation economically impractical at a time when the world was in the throes of an economic depression.

It was not until 1953, when Rhodesia Anglo American took up the prospecting rights and options, that new hope was born for Kansanshi. For two years Charlie McFarlane and a handful of men worked there, dewatering the shafts and exploring the potential.

Once they had obtained the necessary data they withdrew, leaving Tommy Bell at Kansanshi as caretaker, until the directors decided, early this year, to form a company to mine at Kansanshi.

Thus Kansanshi Mining Company came into being with Charlie McFarlane as the Company's first manager.

In April of this year 'Mr. Mac' returned to Kansanshi with a nucleus of staff. Since then the numbers of employees has been growing each month until now there are 27 Europeans and 270 Africans employed on surface and under-ground.

The southern section of the mine has been de-watered and a start has been made on cutting a pump station on the 300 foot level. The headgear at the Main South Shaft will be replaced by the old headgear, which used to be at Nkana's South Ore Body shaft, and a larger hoist will be installed in place of the two hoists at present operating.

The determination of everyone to get on with the job reflects the tremendous spirit of enthusiasm and loyalty of 'Mr. Mac's' staff. Wherever the visitor goes he is asked: 'What do you think of OUR mine'.

Married accommodation is at a premium, there being only five houses on the property and most of the staff, married or single, live in single quarters. The married man, separated from their families, look forward to the erection of houses.


A start is soon to be made on these for the first kiln of bricks has already been fired and John Gallimore, who operates the mine's brickfield, is turning out more as fast as he is able.

Other building projects with early priorities are clinics for European and African staff. A temporary clinic has been established in the wood and iron stores building by Sister Lily Coleman, who is extremely well known in Nkana.

Although still a small community, far from the cinemas and bright lights, life at Kansanshi is enjoyed to the full. A mine club has been built containing a small bar and library. Furnished with easy chairs, tables and decorated with gay, print curtains, it provides a pleasant spot for the people to gather in the evening.

A tennis court has been built on the foundation of one of the courts used by the early Kansanshi community, and tennis parties are held regularly.

Recently a general dealers shop has been opened. Built of brick with large plate-glass windows, its modern lines are in keeping with the modern thinking of the people of Kansanshi. By the inhabitants it is regarded as a symbol and shape of things to come.

Soon work will start on the erection of another, equally well appointed shop, in close proximity to the present one.

Here, in Kansanshi's 'commercial' centre, has been built a tiny post office which should shortly be operating.

What of the men and women working Kansanshi under 'Mr. Mac'.

There are the mining and engineering departments who co-operated so well in de-watering the Main South shaft. Dudley Sisson, shift boss, Mate Lozina and Louis Carstens (at present busy cutting the pump chamber) are the mining people concerned while the engineering staff, under Basil Adams, consist of Tommy Bell, foreman, Sam Ellman, Dan Bishop, W. van der Merwe, and Ivor Mitchell. Also on the engineering staff but working in the power station from where is supplied compressed air and electricity to make the mining operation possible, are Jack Langlois, Carey Slater, William Rowan and Charlie Lush, with electricians Bobby Beaton and John Cawood.

Henny Reynders and Erik Svennsson are engaged primarily on laying the foundation for the new power station in which the first of three 1,000 kilowatt generating sets has just been installed.

Norman Hunter-he and his wife hit headlines last year when the yacht they were sailing foundered in a storm in the Irish Sea-is mine secretary while Leon van Rensburg is resident surveyor and geologist.

Frank Eatwell is busy with the mine gardens, laying pipes and constructing roads.
In the office are Mrs. Norma Ellman and Miss Annette McFarlane who are responsible for the clerical work.

And last but not least is 'Friday', Dudley Sisson's pet monkey. Friday regards everything at Kansanshi as his personal property and his escapades, usually exasperating and infuriating to his victim, are legion and fast becoming legend.

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"The residential at Kansanshi Mine"


Article extracted from the Rhokana Review August 1955
Photographs from the Rhokana Review May 1957




Emmasdale(Lusaka), and some not so old-timers.

Lusaka residents will all know the old Emmasdale suburb, and visitors from the North pass through Emmasdale immediately before entering Lusaka. It seemed to centre round the Dutch Reform Church and many of the old pioneers lived in Emmasdale and even some of the present GNR members lived there. A few years ago it fell into disrepute when Joshua Nkhomo during the Rhodesian War bought a lot of property there and housed all the youngsters that were coming and going to Russia and China for terrorist training. Anyway many people don't know that Emmasdale was named after an old explorer called "Mr Emm" His widow is still alive and is in the centre of the picture below. Her daughter Arlene is on the right and far left is Carol van der Merve, still in Lusaka, married to Bobby, an old friend of Heather Chalcraft

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Another well known Lusaka character is Ronnie Goviea. Brother of the late Fats and Theo. Ronnie is possibly best known for his "Rainbo Disco", but if you needed any electrical work, specially the heavy duty type that farmers and industry need than Ronnie's "Rainbo Electrical" was the first place to go. The picture below is one of Ronnie having his hair permed in an Afro style. Unfortunately the picture is very dark as when Ronnie knew that pictures had been taken of him he destroyed all the pictures and this is the only surviving one. In the background is Mubuku Sinyinda the Commissioner of Police. I did manage to get a lot of free electrical work from Ronnie in return for not enlarging this picture and hanging it in the Rugby cub where he played a lot of squash and discos.

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Here is another well known character. The cheerful Clive Campbell. Clive had the good luck to marry Jo Mole, one of the glamorous Mole sisters. Clive was into all sorts of business, but I think Import/Export was his main enterprise. He could get almost anything into the country for you quickly and cheaply. Unfortunately Clive hasn't spoken to me for some time, because I didn't pay him the balance due on a van that he imported from South Africa for me. I think Clive was cheated in South Africa and the van was a stolen one which had a lot of problems. I got cantankerous and refused to pay him, poor Clive didn't say anything, just shrugged his shoulders. Sorry Clive if you remember how much it was I will pay you. Clive also built a very beautiful unusual house in Roma which I remember because he used bluegum poles for roofing trusses which looked quite good.

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Regards


Elias






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Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 14:13:10 (PDT)


Northerners
I have received a begging letter with a difference, from the wife of Slobodan ......... and has 200 million euros that she wants to deposit in my account...haha
I don't normally look in my yahoo email but tonight decided to and that was sitting waiting for me....what next?? well the email is in cyber space now.....like the rest.
Alix

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Perth Australia...
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 10:25:06 (PDT)


Johnny G,
Enjoy the break from a PC screen - and don't do anything I wouldn't do!

Alix,
I'll be seeing my father tomorrow evening and will ask him if he knew your Granddad. I'm sure that almost everyone in Broken Hill knew Sir Roy. He had many detractors because of his political start as union leader of the Railway Workers. However, he ceratinly was a man of integrity, and managed to free the Northern Rhodesian economy from the firm grasp the British South African Company had on it.

Elias,
Although I was reared in a land of beer drinkers, I've spent close on 27 years working for Stellenbosch Farmer's Winery - at one time the largest producer and distributor of wines in South Africa. Nederburg was part of our stable. In fact I'm currently imbibing a Nederburg Shiraz as I type. I've always believed that lifes too short to drink bad liquor. There again, I also believe that there is no such thing as "bad Liquor" - but, fortunately, there is such a thing as "better liquor".
Regarding your comment about Sir Roy : the name of the book from which I got the photo is "The Welensky Story" by Garry Allighan (1961)published by MacDonald (UK). I recommend you get a copy, as it details the part that Sir Roy played in the recruitment of volunteers for active service in the war.

Regards

Charles CartmillClick here to contact me
Pinelands - Cape Town
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 09:08:26 (PDT)


Gordon Garlick
I do do not think that the pic is of the hot springs on the Kafue at Bancroft.
If you do come across a snap of the springs I would be most interested since I have an amusing tale that will be complimented by a pic.
Thanks for all the great photos.
best regards

Bill HuntClick here to contact me
Widenham, Natal
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 07:32:03 (PDT)


I was up at four am, and finally caught up with all the doings on the board this month!

Ken, your memories, and your photos were very interesting, and exceptional! thanks for the piece!

actually all the photos were very condusive to producing homesick symptoms.

I hope everyone enjoys the Bash at Wallassey, dont get into too much trouble, its a bit dangerous having such a group of ex Northern Rhodesians/Zambians, in one place dont you think! Chocho!

keep well everyone



Marion MurphyClick here to contact me
USA
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 05:31:38 (PDT)


Dear friends please note I will be off the air from 9pm tonight until 4pm Sunday the 5th of May, Shalla Neepo, Johnny.

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Scarborough-UK
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 03:47:34 (PDT)


Hi All
Elias

Your story of your wine reminds me of the oportunity that I had just before I joined the army I was backpacking with a friend, and we were staying at her uncles farm in the South Island...at a place called Dunback, there her uncle had his own winery Glen Urquhat, all home-made wines,also with a powerful kick to them, and the varieties were such that would equal your fathers....hoever, this old uncle even had his own "legal " still and made his own whisky ......I can't remember the % of the fire water,however it was extremly potent, he gave a us a wee dram..oh man , oh boy, the feeling still remains with me today, pure unadulterated whisky.....burning down the throat of a 19 yearold..I must admit the homemade wines were delish......especially the passionfruit and the naartjie ones....

Charlie
My Great Grandfather was a very good friend of "Uncle Roy"as my Mother always refered to him as....and seeing that photo I recognise him from the photos that she had of him with my GGfather the sheer size of him !!...oh and if you look in, I think...Novembers archives, there is a posting about a certain little girl taking a liking to Sir Roy's big toe.....I wonder if your father knew of my Great grandfather, Malcolm Mclaren ??

Alixandria



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Perth Australia...
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 03:17:46 (PDT)


Charles Cartmill (The wine taster!)
CJ I didnt know you were an expert on wine. I could have done with your services a few years ago. My dad being a Cypriot loved making wine, but grapes were scarce and too expensive to use for wine in Lusaka, so he made his own wine from all sorts of strange things, carrots, beetroot, roses, wheat, maize, honey and mixtures of all sorts of things.
He was so proud of his results which tasted vile to us and on every visit we were forced to taste his latest version.
When he died we found gallons and gallons of the stuff in his garage. We gave it all away to the neighbourhood servants who were clamouring for it and there were wild parties for a few nights afterwards. Yuk, I can still taste the petrol flavoured carrot wine.
Best regards
Elias

ps. Great picture of Roy Welensky. Most people thought of him as a hero, but my dad never liked him as he blamed him for forcing him into the army and being sent to Kenya, during the 2nd World War, which caused him to close his "tickey shop" in Ndola.

Elias GeorgopoullosClick here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 02:44:23 (PDT)


Gary

Sorry didn`t get back to you last night,but managed to find the infomation Pappy needed,and you are such a hard man to get hold off.What it must be like to be so popular.Hee!Hee!
The Butterflies are setting in now as D-Day draws near,they tell me Leeds is very nice this time of the year,so may get off there instead,so if you dont see us thats where we are,only joking!
Be good, take care and love to the family,
CU Sat/day,

Lydia

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Coningsby Lincoln uk
Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:24:47 (PDT)


Boyhood memories of Kasama 1950 - 1954 ................

It is hard to believe that it is over fifty years, since I arrived in Kasama, having made the long bus trip from Broken Hill on a white Thatcher Hobson bus. My Mum, Margaret, Dad, Tommy and me, a delightful four year old had spent three days cooped up in the first class compartment of the bus as it raced the corrugated Great North Road throwing up an endless cloud of red dust. The second class compartment was no better and the chickens penned in their cages along with the luggage and bicycles on the roof of the bus squawked constantly as the hot African air ruffled their feathers.

How times have changed in the past half century, the internet, colour television, cell phones, mans first flight in space and then to the moon, were merely things of dreams, and yet today we take them for granted.


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Dad, was the Prison Officer in charge of the Kasama Prison and a prison farm which he established at Malema on the road to Abercorn. He had a passion for boxing and would build a ring where ever we lived, and invited all comers to come and share in his pugalistic endeavours. Dr. Eddie Naylor received a cracked rib, and Barry Ledger a member of the local constabulary flatulated violently when he was caught by a left hook to the head.


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Mum, worked with John Rhodes who was the local Director of Agriculture. Mum was a talented vocalist, having sung professionally in Edinburgh. The first time I remember Mum singing was at a benefit concert held at the Kasama Club, which raised money for English flood victims, I believe this was around 1952. She would spend many happy hours at the spring fed pool, where caravans of houseboys would deliver afternoon tea, and families would gather for a late afternoon swim.


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Our first house, was a white washed brick building with an uneven thatched roof. We had no electricty, our fridge was powered by parrafin, the stove was a huge cast iron wood burning monster that would the fill the early morning air in the house with the tantalizing smell of fresh baked bread. There was a highly polished red stoop where sundowners were served and we would watch the hot African sun sink gently on the horizon, to be greeted by a cool evening breeze that carried the chorus of cicadas and a mulitude of nocturnal insects as they sang their repetitious melodies.

Water was brought in forty-five gallon drums. An outside gravity resevoir supplied the wood fired hot water tank and provided us with water. There was no flush toilet and one had to walk a short distance to the white washed, thatched roofed P.K. (piccannini kia) located a short distance from the back of the house.

There were no telephones, and neighbours communicated through notes delivered by the gardenboy (gardner to be politically correct). The notes would carry the gossip of the day or invitations for sundowners or dinner.


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Around 1952, we excitedly watched as our new home was being built, eventually the big day arrived when we moved into the large white washed house with a tin roof. The twentieth century had finally arrived in Kasama. The house had running water, and an indoor toilet, still no electricity or telephones. Just as he did at the first house, Dad built a boxing ring in the back yard. Our neighbours to the right were the Davis's, Dave, Celia and John, a two and a half foot demolition monster. The Thompson's lived on the other side, Jock, a doer Scotsman, his wife and Allister who was a couple of years older than me.


Click for image (My pal John)

John Davis was to say the least a hellion, and would terrorize the entire neighbourhood. His parents were posted to Lagos, Nigeria, and they eventually returned to Wales, where John found his calling and became a minister !


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The Kasama Club was the social hub of the community, and every year there was a childrens fancy dress party. I always enjoyed these auspicious occassions. At one party I went as Robinson Crusoe, accompanied by my man Friday and a baby Goat. My animal skin costume was made in the prison tailor shop.


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Miss A. M. Gamwell. O.B.E., opened the new Kasama European School January 22, 1952, and I was one of the proud students who started their scholastic career at this fine educational institution. On the first day I attended school, I came home and advised my parents where babies came from. Mrs Gillian Edwards was the first Headmistress. Prior to the new school being built a house had been the school. After all these years, I still have my report cards. Miss Joan.J. van Dyke was to replace Mrs Edwards as Headmistress.


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The prison farm at Malema was always a great place to visit, there was a dairy herd and the Prison supplied the residents of Kasama with fresh milk bottled in Oris Juice bottles.


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Sergeant Bwalya, was the senior warder at the prison, a very proud and dignified man. He had been an Askari in the army during the First World War. I last saw Sergeant Bwalya in 1960. Yamba Yamba, was the senior prisoner and did time for murdering one of his wives. Yamba Yamba came from nobility in the Bemba tribe, and was highly regarded by all, with the possible exception of his long departed wife.


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Chitimakulu, was the Paramount Chief of the Bembas. I visited him on a couple of occassions at his palace near Malole Mission which was run by the White Fathers. The great Chief, kindly gave me two chickens who I named Fred and Sarah. He was, as can be seen in the picture always immaculately dressed in suits made in the prison tailor shop.


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My Dad's official vehicle was an old brown Hudson vanette. Many trips were made out to Malema, I always delighted in going along and camping for the day down along the stream that meandered through the farm. The highlight would be to help build a fire and have a braai. Brian Ashton-Payne would at times accompany Dad and me when we went on safari to the farm.


Click for image (Malole)

The White Fathers, were a common sight as they raced along the red dusty roads on their motorbikes. They had a house in Kasama and a mission at Malole.


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There was also a mission a Chilabula, where the had several large ponds stocked with fish. Life was a dream when I was allowed to swim in one of the ponds, or to paddle in a dugout. Dave Davis and his family would often tag along. The Fathers were always gracious host, and enjoyed welcoming visitors to their missions. Father Hugh Bonar and Father Dan Sherry, two characters from Glasgow were perhaps my favourites.

Although over three hundred miles from the line of rail at Kapiri Mposhi, world events still affected the inhabitants of Kasama.

When King George VI died in 1952, I recall the sombre tones of the BBC announcer declaring the death of the King. A solemn memorial was held at the Boma, where the prison warders and police officers paraded, smartly dressed in their khaki uniforms with black arm bands . Then in 1953 there was great jubilation, when we heard that Hillary and Tensing had conquered Everest, and then there was Queen Elizabeth's Coronation. Another parade was held at the Boma, however, this time it was more festive.

Many people touched me as I started to grow, Fathers Bonar and Sherry, my hero Uncle Johnny Green who also hailed from Glasgow, worked as a mechanic for Thatcher Hobsons and taught me how to swim, Uncle Bob and Auntie Nancy Sorbee, a wee Scottish couple. Uncle Bob would make the world's best crisps. Uncle Barry Ledger the affable police officer with a large handle bar moustache and his wife Jean. The Davis's, Watkins,and many others. Ah that first kiss with Joannie Fredendal ......

Without a doubt, Mum and Dad were the greatest influence during my formative years, and although both have passed on, I thank them for the many wonderful experiences they gave me as a young boy growing up in Kasama.


Ken Miller




Ken, your memory is phenomenal and your posting is brilliant - Arthur

Arthur




Arthur these are the photos I took during my stay in Chillilabombwe in Feb/ March time.

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Had taken some of Victoria Falls but got my camera pinched from the boot of the car in Ndola on the way back, anyone who bought a Olympus camera with a film in it please return the film as I not likely to return to Vic. Falls as I retire next year .


Arthur Chilli means Chillilabombwe

Thanks.


Jimmy Churchill




Arthur,

Last week when I was in Jo'burg, I met up with Beth Lloyd and she gave me this photo of the NRP taken in 1964. The following is written on the back

Outside new Divisional Headquarters, orginally built to be District Headquarters 1964

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Back row (l-r) Jo Joesph, Tony Simons, Stan Jones, Ron Jowett, Barr (?), John Mitchell, Pete Spring, Dave Camidge

Front row (l-r) Betty Glimond, Eleanor Bester, Nora Weston, Fred Lane,Bob Ockwell, Tony Marr, Betty McLelland, Eleanor Robertson (Beth's Mom), Brian Smith

General Duties, Special Branch and CID

Heather




Bwana Steevens,

I came across this shot of my Mom in a dug out on the Kafue Flats during the annual floods

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This picture was taken at one of the many geological picnics my Dad used to host around the Copperbelt.

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I used to sneak along on most of them and watch them party and talk rocks. This one was taken either on the Lufubu or at the springs near the Hippo Pools on the Kafue near the Bancroft Road. I am ashamed to say I don't remember which. Maybe someone will recognize the spot and enlighten me.

regards

Gordon Garlick




Charles

This must bring back some happy memories for you it is Boons bar Gents toilet

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Regards Johnny




Arthur,

I'm nor sure about copyright on the photo - but I'm sure there shouldn't be a problem, as we'd be advertising the book. I picked it up in Montagu for R30 (2 quid). It's the third book I now have on Sir Raphael (does that need translation?). I know my father will enjoy it, as he knows a lot of the characters mentioned in it i.e. Tommy Arnott, Chirapula, etc. Both Roy, and his bro. David were friends of my Dad - David was our neighbour when I was a toddler.

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Anyway, here's another scan from "that book".

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Sir Roy, as a 16 y.o. weighed in at close to 300lbs. That's quite a weight in anyone's language - refer attached photo when he was a 29 y.o.

Regards

CJ




Thanks to all for another bunch of splendid photos.

More photos will follow soon from the impending bash.

Arthur



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Wednesday, May 01, 2002 at 00:13:47 (PDT)


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In an attempt to defeat spammers who would like to collect e-mail addresses from this message board, e-mail addresses of posters are not shown; instead, a link to the poster's Names Directory entry (or a contact form for non-members) is added at the end of each message, through which members can contact the poster should they so desire. (Message boards prior to April 2002, accessible only to members once logged in, do show "broken" e-mail addresses.) E-mail addresses are not shown in the Names Directory either; instead, a Web-based form is used to initiate contact. If you already know the e-mail address of the person you would like to contact, we suggest that you use regular e-mail rather than using the Names Directory system. Only members may use the Web-based contact system.

Complaints

The Great North Road is not responsible for and does not necessarily endorse the contents of messages posted on the message board. If you have a complaint about a poster's message, complain directly to that poster. Do not contact the GNR with complaints about a message posted unless you are quite certain that the message in question contravenes either criminal or civil legislation. In your complaint, ensure that you quote the legislation and the jurisdiction in question and (preferably) provide a link to a copy of the legislation on the Web, published on an authoritative (i.e., government) Web site. Threats of a general nature will be ignored; death threats will be (and have been) reported to the appropriate law-enforcement authorities.

Contacting Someone Responsible for the GNR

Several people are responsible for keeping this site operational; each is responsible for different areas of the site. While each of us reads this message board to a differing extent, you should use e-mail if you want to contact one of us for a specific reason and require a response. We may miss your message if you post it on the message board.

Have fun!


The Great North Road — Northern Rhodesians Worldwide
1st of the Month, 2002 at 00:00:00 (GMT, aka UTC)


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