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Hello Mr. Silk
Please don't swap stories about me with anyone. Besides, I think I've told them all already. He! He! Just winding you up. Great to see you on the board and hope to see you at the reunion in Zambia next year? By the way, Samsoni, Johnny Green found your locks that Delightful chopped off in 1975, and has made a fabulous wig out of them. I tried to buy it from him at the Banbury Bash, but no dice. It's a good job you have come on board after my Beauteous days or you would have been a prime target, for sure.
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Monday, September 30, 2002 at 22:07:04 (UTC)
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Hi All
www.nrzam.plus.com
Added selected items from Zambia Magazine January 1965 - see Brian Barratt's section.
Well done to all those involved in acquiring the Northern Rhodesia Journals - they are rarer than hen's teeth and I'm as jealous as hell!
Regards Ian
Ian Singer Click here to contact me
Livingston, Scotland Monday, September 30, 2002 at 21:36:40 (UTC)
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Howsit Howie!
So great that you are now on GNR! Seems like we all missed a great reunion - but I hear you guys often get together in Natal. I am meeting Greg and Wendy in a few days time in Richards Bay, can't wait, haven't seen them for quite a while.
Last time I saw you was in Salisbury - what have you been up to since then?
Heather - great to get the dates - you can count on Otto and I being there - I am now off to start recruiting folks for the Zambian Bash in the homeland! Will contact you by email with numbers.
Jill
Jill Aplin (née Aplin) Click here to contact me
South Africa Monday, September 30, 2002 at 21:16:51 (UTC)
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Hello out there. I've just logged on for the first time and wonder what happens now. I'd like to make contact with people I knew and swap stories.
Howard
Howard Silk Click here to contact me
Durban, Kwazulu Natal, South Africa Monday, September 30, 2002 at 20:42:47 (UTC)
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Sue Tucker,
come out, come out where ever you are. No more lurking allowed.
Scarscalp,
Ag Man I need more WINDHOEK!!!!!!
cheersnrunoutofbeer
Mark
PS
I like the idea of the brown suit.
Mark Powell Click here to contact me
Taunton, Somerset, United Kingdom Monday, September 30, 2002 at 20:24:39 (UTC)
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Guy
It was terrific meeting you again after so many years. And don't forget when you are coming to Hastings give us a bell.
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Monday, September 30, 2002 at 10:53:09 (UTC)
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Reunion in Zambia
When? 26th - 28th September 2003
Where? Livingstone
Please let me know (by email) if you are interested in attending as it is now less than a year away and I should be able to start negotiating prices, but need to have an idea of numbers.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Monday, September 30, 2002 at 09:14:32 (UTC)
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Chris Forde
Happy Birthday
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Monday, September 30, 2002 at 06:05:14 (UTC)
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Arthur/Elias
Don't worry about the NR Journals. I have been in touch with Paul and am transferring the money to him as soon as he gives me bank account details and when he gets back from Cyprus at the end of October, he will be sending them to Arthur.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Monday, September 30, 2002 at 05:37:12 (UTC)
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Gary et al (The rest who helped with the Banbury Extravaganca.
I have not sent my thanks up until now as I have been wallowing in a period of reflection and nostalgia. Meeting so many people whom I knew even if we were never bossom buddies took me back for the first time in 26 years to a life I could never again have. What a place the Copperbelt was and obviously the best of all was Nkana/Kitwe.
Where else would I have been that privaleged to get a fantastic education (thanks to Tom Potter and all the staff at FKS)a terric grounding in commerce ( you had to learn about everthing because there were so few of us and the buck really did stop at me)a fantastic cultural experience (the theatre and opportunity to appear on TV before it was Zambianised as well as 3 night clubs, Pigale, St Trops and Blue Room were the jazz was terrific. Then there were always the cultural exchanges Louis Armstrong, the Thundering heard, the Coon Carnival on the Rugby field, Cape Town Ballet and many visiting world famous musicians at the theatre)and finally the sport ( Newcastle United, Motherwell in soccer and All Blacks, the Lions and the Wallabies at rugby) Last but not least the SOCIAL LIFE and friendships. What a life and what a country.
Thank you all, Marriane, Ada, Chris, Blackie, Chris Forde and his good wife plus a host of other memory providers. My life will not be complete until I can see the Slag heap and smell the fumes from the smelter again.
Bless you all piss cats one and all.
Guy Hobbs
Guy Hobbs Click here to contact me
Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 21:57:26 (UTC)
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Hi, I have been successful in making contact with Thalia Macras and Marilyn Shooter from ex Kitwe. I am still keen to find Elizabeth Paterson (nee Van Schalkwyk) Does anyone know her whereabouts? My brothers names are Douglas and Jimmy Steyn - is there anyone interested in contacting them?
Maureen Harrison (née Steyn) Click here to contact me
Cape Town, Cape Province, South Africa Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 21:24:32 (UTC)
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Elias
Thanks for the head up.
I have e-mailed you about this
Arthur
Arthur Steevens Click here to contact me
Stockport, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 21:08:56 (UTC)
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Arthur Steevens
Arthur I know you are interested in old NR Journals. Would this interest you? It was published in this months Zambia Society Trust Newsletter.
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A collection of Northern Rhodesian Journals has been passed on to Trust Member Paul Hoar by his old friend and fellow member Andrew Green who was with Ellis & Co. when they were both in Ndola.
Andrew's parents lived in Kanona near Mkushi and at one time ran the Kanona Hotel. It includes several complete sets and a variety of individual volumes.
Paul has been asked to sell them with a proportion of the proceeds to benefit the Trust.
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if its not too late, I have the phone, fax, email addresses. I meant to give it to you at Banbury but was overtaken or rather overcome by events.
Elias
Elias Georgopoullos Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 20:28:28 (UTC)
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Luvley Tina M.
Hi darlin. I saw your message about the Banbury House Hotel. I have already sent Anna, Claire etc. an e. mail thanking them for their kind and generous assistance and the warm hospitable welcome that they gave all U guests and us non-guests. They really were superb.
Thanks to all for the "birthday messages" that have been flooding my e. mail. Mebbe just mebbe I can celebrate my 50th next September back in the old country Zambia!
Gary Brassington Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 19:58:38 (UTC)
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Ada what is this older women spiel you are only a baby.
Johnny.x
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 19:26:17 (UTC)
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Johnny et al from Banbury House Hotel
The email address is sales@banburyhouse.co.uk. The reservations manager is Claire, although she ran off to Portugal before we arrived. The beautiful blonde lady who was there for most of the time we were there was called Melanie. Come on folks, let's give them a big thank you.
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 19:20:11 (UTC)
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Lusaka Convent - Susan Anthony also numbered in names below (sorry mind's going). Post piccies. Please email me.
Tina
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 19:06:59 (UTC)
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Ada
Must admit I was thinking only that the Musos may already be on disc or tape where it might be easy and even profitable for them to share what they have done with us.
Though with your thinking maybe you should start a new career as a Promoter, Manager and Agent??? I bet you'd be great.
Love,
Tina
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 18:03:28 (UTC)
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Tina,
That will be wonderful, thank you so much. Why not market the tapes and what a good idea to try and get the rest of the entertainment to do tapes or discs. I am sure loads of us would love to own them.
As for Johnny! The picture conjured up in my mind of him as Sonny, well!!!! He is very possessive (Aren't you Johnny?) I'd keep an eye on him if I was you Tina!!!
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 17:31:20 (UTC)
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Ada
Johnny needs to see the bigger picture. What we need is him in his black wig and mustache and Thelma with her shiny black hair and swishy trousers belting out "I got you Babe". Our own Sonny and Cher. Cor (you little cutie) you can just keep the sjambok handy in case "Sonny" tries to make off with "Cher".
CALLING BASH MUSOS - Costopoulos Family, Thelma, Brian Geyser, Mike, Paudie. We know you have busy lives, specially Brian G. long moved on to a different business. No one wants to cause you any hassle but are you on CD or recorded anywhere? We ADORED your music and definitely would like to buy it if it is easily available anywhere.
Ada I will figure out how to send you Love Potion. Should anyone else be interested please email me privately through the GNR.
I called the hotel. Little Innocent is quite safe and on her way to Fifi LaGayther's.
STORIES - Lovely word pictures of mica sand on a child's skin. The raft adrift would make a good full story. Driving test .. who else had forgotten reversing through those drums? It's often the nature of the GNR not to acknowledge individual postings so no one let that discourage you. Stories are savored and remembered and referred to again months later in another post.
Lusaka Convent girls - I'm using maiden names, Dawn Griffin, Charbonniers, Liz Starley, let's post pictures of classmates - specially group ones. People may see the face and know where they are.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 16:45:58 (UTC)
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Oh Johnny, oh Johnny
You seem to be a bit stressed!!!! Now we can all share Tina, surely. I won't steal your friends, honestly!!!! And why am I not invited as well? Oh - maybe it is the OLDER woman thing that frightens you!!!! Mind you on second thoughts maybe I don't really want to be there!!! We'll leave the decision to Tina - I am sure she will make the right one!
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 14:52:22 (UTC)
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Tracey
Not sure if this will help - a photo from the Broken Hill Brochure 1957 (courtesy of Ada and Chris Cantrell) which I know is a little before your time.

"For picnics and fishing, the diversion dam on the Lunsemfwa River is ideal".
Photo: Federal Information Dept
If you e-mail me your snail mail address I will put a CD in the post which has the whole 1957 Broken Hill magazine on it.
I have seen several large write up's on Broken Hill (Kabwe) in the Rhokana Reviews I'm currently working on and they also include the Mita Hills - hopefully I will be able to get some of these write ups onto the GNR soon.
Arthur
Arthur Steevens Click here to contact me
Stockport, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 13:33:21 (UTC)
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Thank you Jack
I know it wasnt Mulungushi (I was adrift on a raft there once with my brother and a few friends! our parents were frantic and had to rescue us!), however, Mita Hills is ringing a bell. I would appreciate it if you could ask your friend to verify for me.
It was such a lovely place and I loved rubbing the sand on my skin and seeing it glitter. Along with fireflies swarming at 15 Mile Drift, its one of the best memories from my childhood.
Thanks again
Tracey
Tracey Donovan Click here to contact me
Wales Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 11:38:54 (UTC)
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Ada you have no chance of a visit she has allready booked in with me for 3 months we are going to work on another love potion together called (Now You Can Shoot Me) which will have to have regular tests made on it, maybe nightly so as you see Ted is not going to allow her to be away for more than 3 months so maybe next year for you, I know you will understand Love Johnny,
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 10:08:39 (UTC)
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Linda stick the Banbury house Em address on here then we can send them the thank you message, Johnny.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 09:52:32 (UTC)
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Hi Tina
How about putting Love Potion No.9 on a disc and we can all buy it from you? It is a fantastic song, sung by a fantastic lady. I would love to own it to sing along with (poor neighbours) and to know the singer would be an added bonus.
Chris and I look forward to a visit from you in the not too distant future. Anytime you need somewhere to stay in this country let us know.
Love
Ada and Chris
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 09:17:46 (UTC)
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For Tracey Donovan,
Des Valley!
I cant be sure though I can check with Dave Murdoch who still lives in Kabwe. Sounds as though it ought to be at Mita Hills dam which was looked after for the BH Mine by Des Hunt for many years.
Alternative is Mulungushi dam, the other Mine power station dam (Des also worked there). Both had their share of crocs although the threat of bilharzia also kept many from bathing. Did not stop folk sailing and water skiing at the sailing club though. I'd guess Des valley would be the gorge leading from one of the dams to the power station.
If you dont get a better answer I'll check with Dave.
Jack Wardell
Jack Wardell Click here to contact me
Scotland, United Kingdom Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 08:55:12 (UTC)
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Doug Waybush,
That sounds like a well balanced chap, with a chip on both shoulders!
Cheers Doug
Doug Grewar Click here to contact me
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 08:16:30 (UTC)
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Dave Cooper - below from Rodney Dangerfield who I'm sure you laughed at in the US :
"I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. "
Doug Waybush Click here to contact me
London and Univ Maryland USA, England Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 01:26:09 (UTC)
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Banbury House Hotel Guests
I think it would be nice of us to send some emails to the hotel, thanking them for keeping the bar open for us and for the great service we got. What do you think? I have the email address and the name of the person who was on duty while we were there. No word from them, though, on the infant I left in the cupboard in my room. ha ha
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 00:49:43 (UTC)
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Linda Hayes,
As I don't even know what HTML - or whatever it is called is - it's abit difficult for me to master it. But it looks to me that if you actually do know what it means you can shout at us mere mortals in 'comic sans' - complete with colour et al - and also do BOLD writing. Myself, being very shy, I prefer to whisper!!
Go quietly amidst the noise - as someone once said!
If only they knew!
Jilly
Jill Aplin (née Aplin) Click here to contact me
South Africa Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 22:37:11 (UTC)
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Hi Wilma
Sorry no email has winged it's way to me from you. Most probably still somewhere in the clouds. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks for trying. Please keep trying.
Love
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 20:22:59 (UTC)
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Hi
Glad to hear your Banbury Bash went well. Wish I couldve been there but unavoidable business stopped me.
Can anyone tell me if they know of 'Des or Dez Valley?' I remember going there, it cant be that far away from kabwe. There was a large lake there (unsuitable for bathing due to a large croc!, and sand that was 'glittery' due to the high content of quartz in it.
Anyone have a clue?
Thanks
Tracey
Tracey Donovan Click here to contact me
Wales Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 19:49:05 (UTC)
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Quite a feat, don't you agree? You have to be reallllllly bright to be able to do that amount of html. Oh, Lord it's hard to be humble.. he he
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 19:25:07 (UTC)
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InTEXASwhere EVERYTHING isBIGGER,I do believe I am the reigningHTML QUEEN
And if I screwed up on this, I shall slink away... he! he!
Suffering withdrawal symptoms big time today. Where is my bacardi and coke, Blackie, Kevin, Barry Woodrow, Bwana Grins???
A word on the password difficulty. I changed mine to such a simple one that even I can remember it. UH!It is a cinch to do on the Names Directory. Try it.
Dawie, where did you disappear to after the Bash?
I'm hesitant to push the button now, in case I have shot my mouth off about html and screwed up and embarrassed myself.
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 19:22:40 (UTC)
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Dear All
Well it is Saturday, and I for one have had a very easy day.
I would just like to ask Ada if she received my email.
I would also like to wish Gary a belated Happy Birthday.
It is hard to believe that at this time last week we were just starting to party.
I shall end now and wish you all a happy weekend and hope to here from you soon Ada. I am not sure whether my email here is working properly or not.
Bye for now Love Wilma
Wilma Wall (née Henry) Click here to contact me
Almelo, Netherlands Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 16:55:52 (UTC)
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TEST DRIVE ......
I parked the blue volkswagen bettle, opened the door and stepped slowly onto the dusty parking lot of the driver examining centre in Lusaka and started walking dejectedly towards the office.
What was to be my right of passage, my intiation into manhood, my freedom, moments earlier eluded me when Bill Simmons one of the local transportation inspectors coldly said " well young Miller, I would suggest that you re-book another test for next week". My world was shattered.
Insult to injury was added to my life and my battered ego was further crunched when Bill halted me in my long slow march towards the office, and suggested that I observe a large eighteen wheeler truck and trailer unit
reverse between two rows of forty five gallon drums.
Slowly the giant truck with it's engine purring like a lion basking in the veldt under a blazing African sun, with it's exhaust spewing smoke (the truck not the lion) filled the air with the smell of diesel,approached from the right, gently glided between the barrels, only to repeat the flawless movement moments later from the left side. What a humiliating sight to witness, there was no justice, a mere five minutes earlier in my trusted blue volkswagen,I had attempted the same intricate maneuver only to hear a sickening dull metallic thunk as my left rear bumper hit and toppled one of the drums. My reason for living was crushed.
A week that felt like an eternity passed, again I meet with my nemisis Bill Simmons, this time it was like threading a neddle and the offending barrels remaind standing.
January 31,1964 was my independence day when I proudly received Driving Licence No.26346 issued to me under The Roads and Road Traffic Ordinance Regulation 5 of the Northern Rhodesia Government. I had passed the test drive into manhood.
Kenneth (Ken) Miller Click here to contact me
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 13:37:17 (UTC)
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N O R T H E R N E R S !
If you have not been successful in seeing the map of Kitwe on your computer, please email me with a description of the problem you are having.
I will be available for support from now until Monday. After Monday, I will not be able to return the email for approximately a fortnight.
But if you submit your problem, I will store the emails and address each in the order it was received.
This is NOT a recording.
Tot kijk...
Groeten...
Dave Cooper Click here to contact me
Amsterdam, Nederland Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 12:17:40 (UTC)
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N O R T H E R N E R S!
I finally have a new super duper computer up and running from my apartment on the Singel gracht in Amsterdam! Only two days from when I leave Amsterdam to begin a working sojourn of some 12 to 24 months across the North Sea at Derby on that island off the Dutch coast.
But I will be crossing the North Sea as frequently as an Saxon raider in the 5th century, so I reckon it was worth the horrendous effort. It took over three weeks to buy and setup up a graphics-powerful computer here in Nederland that can handle programmes like AutoCAD, 3dsmax, and Autodesk VIZ.
But it is worth it. I am now using an iiyama flatscreen, wireless mouse and keyboard, and a sexy looking CPU with a blue plexiglass door over the entire front of the tower. The most important thing is that I have finally ELIMINATED beige from my home. There are NO beige components in this system: everything is metallic! Hurrah!
I have zero tolerance for beige.
Anyway, I just wanted to leak a few things out about the results of the survey. This will probably get me into huge trouble with the management of the GNR. But, you know it might help a bit, I hope the Big Three understand!
1. Some members complained about the constant nattering about the Banbury Event. Well, my comment about that is that if you had been to Banbury you would have understood why we nattered on so much about it. We knew it would be good, and it was not good, it was UNBELIEVABLY FANTASTIC. But if you want to curtail the nattering about Banbury or any specific topic that is current, then add your voice and a new topic... I do that all the time. Try and spin off another topic. If you are silent and you lurk, you make no impact. So this is a call to the lurkers as well.
2. Some members complained about an "in-crowd" dominating the conversations on the Message Board. Well, my comment to that is that, I certainly don't regard myself as part of any "in-crowd", and if there was one, I am certain that they would NOT have me as a member. Even as the founder, I suspect I am one of the least liked people on the GNR. This is understood given my personality. However, all you have to do is, to participate and contribute, being a member of any "in-crowd" certainly does not stop you from contributing.
3. Many of you have difficulty with the password control. This is understood. But Craig has made comments about how he is going to address this problem. But in the meantime, there really is no problem with this at all. If I can manage it, then any Wood Stump could handle it. I promise. I merely enter my given password and have the OS of my local computer remember it. If I have requested the password elsewhere, it is because that local computer was not the one that remembered it. This is not rocket science, please believe me. However, something better is on its way. That is my understanding.
So, take charge with the Great North Road yourself. Contribute and engage. Don't lurk. Lurking implies shyness. Northern Rhodesians are not known for their shyness!
If you can't see the Kitwe map, it is because you do not have the WHIP! Plug-in. Follow the instructions to download it. Understand that these plug-ins are Windows-specific, so non-Windows computers (like ibooks, imacs, and Unix OS run systems) may not be able to use the Windows Plug-ins, so you will not see the Kitwe map, which requires a Windows Plug-in.
Anyway, I hope this all helps. I will be back online with a computer in England in the next few weeks. But this is the first message I am posting to the GNR from my apartment on the Singel in Amsterdam.
Tot ziens...
Groeten...
DAVE COOPER
(aka Dawie van der Bliksem)
Founder of the Great North Road web suite
Dave Cooper Click here to contact me
Amsterdam, Nederland Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 11:12:04 (UTC)
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To Barbara McLoughlin
Hi there, sorry for the delay in replying, been away 'bashing'.
We do not know Barry Bird, however we shall make enquiries and if fruitful will contact you, helpful if you knew which company he worked for.l
Graham and Fiona Wall (née Whaits) Click here to contact me
Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 10:19:51 (UTC)
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Tina,
Thanks for that. I'll try and sing it sometime. :)
Craig Hartnett Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 09:17:54 (UTC)
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Ag sies man! I'm going to bed, now that you two have given me a headache. I'll fix it in the morning.
Craig Hartnett Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 09:17:15 (UTC)
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THIS HMTL IS FUN WHEN YOU ARE LEARNING..... Heather and Fiona you have both given me the incentive to try again......Heather, I love your interpretation of what postings look like under the microscope....what power were you using, ......
Ali
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 08:57:10 (UTC)
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GARY
HAPPY BIRTHDAY and Many, many more.
Chris and I wish you all the best and hope that you have a great one. No doubt your family will see that you do have a fantastic day. Wish we could be there to help you celebrate.
Lots of love
Ada and Chris
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 07:57:35 (UTC)
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Perhaps one day I'll learn how to do this HTML properly without screwing it up.
Craig - I'm begging again
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 07:54:35 (UTC)
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Susan Karalis
Happy Birthday
Ralph Fuller
Happy Birthday for tomorrow
(sorry, but I'm trying to avoid a trip into town tomorrow)
Brasso
I came into town specially this morning to wish you happy birthday, but everyone else has also remembered.
Hope its a happy one.
Charlie
I'm only teasing. I know you're busy. But I just wanted to let you know that I'll do my very best to be there when it happens.
Elias
Which would you prefer - chicken or walnut whipper?
Diane Sewley
Now I know you received a little parcel yesterday. Please don't spend too much time with the contents of it, otherwise I shall have to remind you of my threat.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 07:52:40 (UTC)
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snikker! Well it did sort of!
Fiona Gayther (née Ferguson) Click here to contact me
United Kingdom Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 06:51:21 (UTC)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY GARY!!
I hope you are enjoying a well deserved rest and that you enjoy some of the left over Kumala. I'll ring you later on.
Please let this HTML work (sorry if it hasn't Craig)
Fiona Gayther (née Ferguson) Click here to contact me
United Kingdom Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 06:50:11 (UTC)
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Elias - Why did the chicken cross the border? To get to the Banbury Braai. (Heather note spelling of word following Banbury). Except Elias is right - he has proved he is NOT a chicken and it was LOVELY to see him there.
Craig - Since you mentioned her name tags, Linda did a great job on the name tags - remarkably time-consuming getting a great design and checking spellings etc. etc. for 160 folks.
Craig reminds me of something else. Here are the words to the Jaarpie Version of Love Potion Number Nine. I wrote it for you lot on the GNR. Whistle it on your way to work. Sing it in the shower until your spouse throws a sponge at you (as mine does). Change the words to work for you. Have fun. Note: author denies any responsibility for crashes or marital breakups etc. during the singing of this song. I also reserve the right to write in phonetic Afrikaans where necessary.
Love Potion Number Nine (Jaarpie Version)
I took my troubles down to madam Ruth
That Jaarpie lady with the gold capped tooth
She works outside Luanshya not too far from the mine
Selling little bottles of Love Potion Number Nine.
I told her that my love life was no go
I couldn’t snag a really lekker oke.
She took a tickey from me and made a magic sign
Said: “Ja what you need is love potion number 9”.
She bent down turned around and said: "jurrah jong
I found this out one day when my melktert went wrong
Put it on an orange scafie and don’t wait too long."
I held my nose I closed my eyes - Jussss it was strong!
I didn’t know if it was day or night
I started smooching everything in sight
When I kissed Lusaka Convent nuns
They said it was a crime.
They broke my little bottle of
Love potion number nine.
(This is sung over the guitar solo after the first four notes ie ..Dee-dum
Dee-dum...)
I smooched a fishing team
Nkana-Kitwe Rugby Club - That scrum was just a dream
Young Farmers, swimming, cricket, soccer, game guards in the scrub
And all the men and horses in Lusaka Polo Club (How POSH!)
I didn’t know if it was day or night
I started smooching everything in sight
When I kissed Lusaka Convent nuns
They said it was a crime.
They broke my little bottle of
Love potion number nine.
Love potion number nine.
Love potion number nine.
Love potion number nine.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 04:32:07 (UTC)
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NIT PICKERS ANONYMOUS
Carl Weinands spiel on Changa-Changa, third paragraph, should read 100 miles East of present day Broken Hill not West. The proof readers are spending too much time looking up walnut trees.
Regards Gordon
Gordon Garlick Click here to contact me
Aberdeen, New Jersey, United States Saturday, September 28, 2002 at 01:03:30 (UTC)
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Fiona,
Oh, I don't remember anything specific that Diane did (not to be confused with Craig Forbes' friend). Just that she had trouble standing up when were back at the Banbury House Hotel after we left the golf club. :)
Craig the Rough
Craig Hartnett Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Friday, September 27, 2002 at 23:11:57 (UTC)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO A GREAT GUY. WE LOVE YOU, BRASSO!!
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Friday, September 27, 2002 at 22:44:58 (UTC)
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IAN FORBES
YES ANOTHER BIRTHDAY. Happy birthday for the 29th mate. Lets get together for another braai at my place on Sunday. Call me.
Poor Fiona Gayther!
POORLEY WITH ANOTHER COLD. I too have been in bed with flu for last 2 days. U keep warm and drink plenty ............ Kumala wine, Lion, Castle or Windhoek! Hee hee
Gary Brassington Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 22:37:40 (UTC)
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Arthur and Heather
I think I can relinquish the title of GNR chicken now, and pass it on to say Billy Laing or Jill Aplin or any other deserving non-attendee.
Elias
Elias Georgopoullos Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland Friday, September 27, 2002 at 22:35:37 (UTC)
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CRAIG
I need to know what it was Diane was getting up to. She keeps asking me and I can't remember!
TO THE B....D WHO GAVE ME A COLD
Thank you, I have spent the whole week feeling ill, but I expect I will recover.... sniff!
Fiona Gayther (née Ferguson) Click here to contact me
United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 22:26:40 (UTC)
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Hi all - glad to see that everybody had such a good time in Banbury.
Craig, had I actually managed to get there - the plan was to show up on a white horse with rings on my fingers and bells on my toes - so I guess you'd have noticed me! But alas, I never made it - much to my chagrin - it looks like you all had such a wonderful time. But I was there in spirit (the brandy).
Now, who's going to come to the Zambian Bash??? See you there! I can't wait for next year - any dates yet, Heather?
So great to see that you had so much fun - and thanks to gary and family for bringing it all together - HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GARY!!
Love,
Jill
Jill Aplin (née Aplin) Click here to contact me
South Africa Friday, September 27, 2002 at 22:14:01 (UTC)
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Elias I don't know this chap although the name seems familiar I dont think he is a registered member of GNR as he sent me an Email asking where he could read the John Maxwell story but I think he does come from the states he says he has a friend called Bruce Who I have seen his name on the register you may get some info off him I tried to reply to him as you see on the board but it was rejected and that address was off a reply of his EM so I dont know what is going on he has not cme back to me again Cheers Johnny.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 21:14:35 (UTC)
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I don't know where to start with some comments about Banbury, and I'm afraid that if I start I won't finish. (I know you're afraid of that too, which is why I never took the microphone on Saturday night.)
The obvious place to start is with thanking the organisers. Gary, Tasha and Scott -- thank-you very much. Gary, you have a couple of great kids, and I wish the three of you all the best for what lies ahead. Thank-you also to all of those who worked in the background with almost no recognition -- people who made and/or cooked the salads and the sadza (which was actually the correct consistency this time) and the other goodies we had to eat, Linda who made the attractive name tags, people who set everything up before the rest of us showed up, and the people who cleaned up after us. You know who you are, so please give yourselves a pat on the back.
Thank-you to the musicians and entertainers -- we got a hell of a deal for £20. For the record, these ladies and gentlemen put on that excellent show at their own expense, including paying their own air fares and waiving their appearance fees. Thank-you very much again.
Thank-you also to the 158 or so people who showed up. Without you, of course, it would have been quite boring. I'm not even going to try and list all of the people I met over the weekend, some new and some again since Wallasey, but I enjoyed meeting everyone that I spoke to and only wish I had managed to meet all of you. The more of you I meet, the harder it is for me to get ticked off when you tell me your password doesn't work. :)
Finally, thanks to everyone who bought something in the auction, especially to someone willing to pay £50 for a single bottle of beer!
I can't resist making some comments based on Hartley's excellent photographs and some of my meetings.
Scarscalp (and Deb),
She won't consider it a compliment when she's older, but the resemblance to you is uncanny. Thanks for the Guinness.
Heather and Elias,
Please refrain from any more references to "whipping one's walnut tree" or the heavy-hand of management will be forced to pull out the black marker.
Elias,
You looked like a scared bunny rabbit all weekend after the invasion of your hotel room on Saturday morning. Ag shame man. I'm glad you showed up though -- I wasn't relishing the thought of a trip to Dundee to drag you to Banbury kicking and screaming. And thank-you for figuring out how to spell my name.
John Costopoulos,
Unfortunately I missed your Zambian magic show. Hopefully I'll get another chance to see it some day. I'll try not to be in the loo next time you call me on stage! What the hell were we doing with our hands up there on the stage? I was missing when it started, so may have missed the instructions.
Barry,
Glad you could make it after all. It was very interesting chatting with you.
Moira,
Congratulations on dragging me onto the dance floor... with only seven minutes to go before the music stopped. I almost made it! Now that we know what props you need for your famous, but elusive, party trick, you can count on it being available next time.
Paudie and Sue,
You make a great couple. So nice to see and so nice to meet you too. Paudie, thanks for a great job on the entertainment.
Brian Geyser,
Thank you to you too for all that you did for the evening. I'm sorry we only met briefly.
Craig Forbes and "friend" (was it Dianne?),
Seems you two enjoyed the evening. :)
Jacqui,
Sorry to hear about the cold. Glad you didn't give it to me! Nice to see you again.
Graham and Fiona,
Sounds like it's tough being an Aramco employee. Any job openings in the mail room? You were a lot of fun to meet -- hope we get another opportunity again soon.
Johnny,
I wish I had seen you wearing that wig in person. Thanks for the lighter and the photographs (and the laughs as always). Glad you managed to remember your new password and that (for once) I was not the reason someone was not able to log in.
Linda,
Mike can come to me for a reference that you were well-behaved. Sorry to hear that a migraine was the cause though. Nice to meet you after all the e-mail we have exchanged.
Jill Aplin,
Someone told me you were there. Were you? If I had known I would have gone looking for you. If you were there, sorry we missed each other.
Tina (the other Texas rose),
Sorry I didn't recognise you right away. Can't understand why. Thanks for the stories and the pictures. I seem to have been out of the tent during your performance, so I missed what everyone else is raving about. :( Your description of Linda is priceless. Your comment about me possibly identifies one of your responses on the survey. :)
Kevin,
Hope your leg/foot heals soon. It was a pleasure to meet you. Please keep Heather in line for us. Sounds like you were snoring as badly as the guy next to me on the flight over. Jislaike!
Diane,
After seeing you on Saturday night, it's no wonder you had a hangover on Sunday morning!
Heather,
Ag shame about not being able to get kippers occasionally. I haven't had those in ages.
Brasso,
Finally, happy birthday for the 28th.
Craig Hartnett Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Friday, September 27, 2002 at 21:13:32 (UTC)
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Alix Yes Squashing.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 21:00:05 (UTC)
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JOHNNY GREEN
Johnny, you mentioned Ken Fernie a few messages down. Is that the same Ken married to Rina Fernie? They live in California now.
Elias.
punishment exercise completed below:-
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Elias Georgopoullos Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland Friday, September 27, 2002 at 21:00:01 (UTC)
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Johnny.....
I think it might be the reason why the animals are slowly taking over......
Charlie....
There must be a reason to why they are here....does anyone know to what use Mozzies are good for ????
Ali
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 19:40:06 (UTC)
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Gary the Birthday Boy
Mmmf, mmmf, mmmf! That's three big birthday smooches for you from me. Have a lovely Birthday. And unngh, unngh, those are two big hugs for Natasha and Scott.
Love,
Tina
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Friday, September 27, 2002 at 19:23:01 (UTC)
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Johnny Green,
Glad U survived the bash!
By the way - I'm extremely cross with Noah. Why didn't he squash those two mosquitoes (sp) when he had the chance?
Heather....
What can I say? When I get a chance? You'll be the first to know.
Regards
CJ
Charles Cartmill Click here to contact me
Pinelands, Cape Town, South Africa Friday, September 27, 2002 at 18:41:17 (UTC)
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Alix were you maybe in past life an usher for Noah on the Ark you have started doing things in two's love Johnny.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 17:46:04 (UTC)
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Many happy returns Gary may you live forever and may I never die, your buddy Johnny, Love to Natasha and Scott.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 17:42:22 (UTC)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY .....GARY.....
hehe it is the 28th here so have a wonderful birthday, and hope you have many many more.....
much Love from Ali, Alice, Jade ,and Leah
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 17:11:52 (UTC)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY .....GARY.....
hehe it is the 28th here so have a wonderful birthday, and hope you have many many more.....
much Love from Ali, Alice, Jade ,and Leah
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 17:11:51 (UTC)
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Natasha/Scott
You were great on the 'day' enjoyed our chit chat/have a great day with Dad (Brasso) on his Birthday
Graham and Fiona Wall (née Whaits) Click here to contact me
Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 16:35:26 (UTC)
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Arthur
Thanks for the picture post, sorry so small, but could not remember how to do it (what can I say).
Diane
We look forward to having a Bristol/Wales Bash when we return, what a great idea / shall keep in contact via board and email / our return date should be end February 2003 / will be a great shock to the system, but as you said, great to be able to get-together for a good "bash" with good friends.
Ada
Yes we had a great time meeting up with you and Chris again, and as you said short but sweet, and must be longer next time an absolute must.
Fiona (number Two) (fifi)
Loved the pikkies 'lol' (lots of laughs) I was having a good time honest! Look forward to getting together with (ya'll)an absolute must, makes the thought of coming back to live in the UK a little easier knowing that we have made such nice friends.
Gary (Brasso)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAVE A GREAT DAY - LOVE AND HUGS XX
Graham and Fiona Wall (née Whaits) Click here to contact me
Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 16:32:40 (UTC)
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THE OLE MAN DOES NOT KNOW WE'RE DOING THIS (aka Brasso)!!!!!!!!!!
HAPPY 49TH BIRTHDAY DAD FOR TOMORROW THE 28TH! We love you and thanks for being a fantabbulistic Dad.
Love - Natasha & Scott
Gary Brassington Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 14:48:21 (UTC)
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Arthur
Thank you very much that article from Chirupula Stephenson. I read each word with great interest. Thank you to Guy Hobbs for those Rhokana Reviews which we will all get a chance to see now.
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Friday, September 27, 2002 at 12:25:56 (UTC)
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I forgot to mention
Chirupula Stephenson refers to James Harrison CLARK - the article is reproduced as original, without correction to any of the typo's.
Arthur
Arthur Steevens Click here to contact me
Stockport, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 09:14:55 (UTC)
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Northerners and the Wienand's in particular
Posted on the 26th June 2002 message board is an article from a March 1957 Rhokana Review - An Old-Timer Remembers - a story from Carl Wienand, a pioneer of Northern Rhodesia.
Having met Guy Hobbs at the Banbury Bash a few holes in the Rhokana Review collection have now been filled, thanks to Guy's generosity in loaning me two full volumes of these magazines.
Glancing through some of these over the last few days I found this in response to the original article in one of the magazines.
I think a few of you might be interested to see it yourselves.
Dave Cooper - take note of Chirupula's belief on the Egyptian influence in the area some three or four thousand years ago!
With thanks to my long suffering wife Trish - who patiently checked the scanned OCR's version against the original article, correcting the "corrected" spellings.
Arthur
'An Old Timer Remembers'
A few i's are dotted and t's crossed by Chirupula Stephenson
Shortly before he died, Mr. J. E. Chirupula Stephenson wrote to us in connection with the article 'An Old Timer Remembers' which was published in our March issue.
Chirupula Stephenson, one of our best known pioneers, came to Africa in 1896 from England and worked in Kimberley as a telgraphist, later moving to Bulawa, Blantyre and Fort Jameson.
His first trip to what is now the Copperbelt was made under instructions from Cecil Rhodes when he opened the first Government post at Ndola.
He eventually moved into the bush and built his own house, Chiwefe, which was later replaced by a two-storey home of stone, clay, cement, iron-wood and combed grass.
Living the life of a cultural hermit he continued his studies from books which he ordered in great numbers and, in spite of his 81 years, had a keen brain, a fine intellect and a wide knowledge of world affairs.
He spoke beautiful and precise English.
TO MR GERARD'S interesting article founded on dear Carl Wienand's reminiscences, I would fain dot a few i's and cross a few t's.
James Harrison dark (I hope I am right about the 'James'), the first Changa-Changa of the Christian era, in the year 1895, left Southern Rhodesia, crossed the Zambesi and, in the Luano valley, founded a kingdom.
Like Sir Harry Hamilton Johnston, he made treaties with 'Kings and Chiefs of Central Africa'. But not being accredited by the British Government, with the audacity, boldness, courage and daring of his 'B.C.' predecessor - the Egyptian pharaoh - Changa-Changa dispensed with formality contenting himself with 'Concessions' from Kasonkamona and Sitanda - 100 miles west of today's Broken Hill township.
His capital at the confluence of the Lukushashi and Lunsemfwa rivers, was surrounded by a wall of earth two feet thick, rammed into wickerwork supported by upright poles, of adequate density to stop poisoned arrows from his subjects' bows, or bullets from the chukunda or Portuguese passers-by.
His revenue tariff was simple: Import duty - one piece out of every bale: Export duty - every alternate tusk of ivory, or every other beast! In the first case, the toll would be about ten per cent; in the second - a mere 50 per cent.
Beyond making village-to-village roads, I do not know what his subjects paid, but I do know that the roads of four-foot width were a boon and a blessing to all who used them.
About my being a 'stronger man' than Changa-Changa, I ejaculate 'Carl Wienand, you flatterer!' The position was, J. H. C. was said to be an outlaw (possibly owing to confusion of ownership of loot cattle taken in the 1893 Matabele War), and whilst he had but a few rag-tailed servants armed with a few muzzle-loaders, I, the Boma official, had one six-shilling-a month and nine five-shilling-a-month askari in smart uniform, with fez, leather belt, 'Black Bess' Snider rifle and 15-inch bayonet. Moreover, I had a flag, the Union Jack, in the centre of which was a rampant lion seizing an ivory tusk sarcastically termed "Th' dog an' th' bone" by trader A. F. Miles alias Kafunda.
In the first paragraph, the native interpreter's explanation of 'Changa-Changa' is excellent, but my entymology links Changa with the huge granite dome shaped like a man's head and shoulder, Sancha, or as some natives say Sankha, with the rich copper mine Nchanga - with the pharaoh Sankha-Ra of dynasty XI or XIV, who, three or four thousand years ago sent an expedition to these parts.
'Cha' or 'Sa' is preserved in the Persian 'Shah': 'n' equals 'and': 'Ka' equals the 'double' or 'conscience': 'Ra' equals
'La' or Allah, or the 'Le' of Lesa. 'The-Rain-Lord' signifies 'the sun' otherwise 'God's Regent.' (Note: The names of the Irumi mountains and the IKa hills prove irrefutably an Egyptian influence in what was North Eastern Rhodesia.'Rumi' is the Coptic name of Ancient Egypt, and 'Ka' means 'double'.)
But, as I have told elsewhere, the Chartered Company could not tolerate competition, so Changa-Changa was 'squared' by two 3,000 acre farms, which strangely, so it seemed, he named Manasseh and Ephraim. Never for one moment did I imagine J. H. C. to be a 'Bible-thumper', but having referred to Genesis XLVI: 51-52, I chuckle over his Port Elizabeth sarcasm.
For the information of heathen and pagan, I quote the two verses: 51. 'And Joseph called the name of the first-born Manasseh: For God, said he, hath made me forget all my toil and all my father's house.
52. And the name of the second he called Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my'afflictions.'- and submit the first refers to outlawry and the second to monogamy, which (ahem) he scorned.
Regarding Kachololo, 'Bull hippo', or 'spurt' or 'unkempt . . . ' I first met him in Blantyre (1899) when he, sent a long cablegram to 'Joey' Chamberlain, protesting against his deportation by the Nyasaland government. But he protested in vain and was escorted to Chiromo, where he got into Portuguese territory, then hopped across the Shire river and, after a 300 mile tramp, popped up near Kota-Kota to shoot game for sweethearts and wives ....
Our next meeting was in the year 1901 somewhere north of Changa-Changa's Fort Algoa, where, to illustrate his story, he offered to shoot my tame baboon, which had played such an important part in our peaceful occupation in 1900. (See Chirupula's Tale).
He told how shortly before the 1896 Rebellion when he and a partner were working a gold claim somewhere outside Salisbury, a 'cheeky' native was about to club the partner, when, with lightning speed, Kachololo drew his revolver and shot the assailant stone dead.
In the Magistrate's court, the partner said there was no necessity to kill, so Kachololo was found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced to six months' 'hard'. When securely 'inside' his partner sold the claims, pocketed the proceeds and left Rhodesia - which was just as well for personal safety, because K. swore to shoot him on sight, and to show how he would do it, offered to shoot my baboon, as related.
But fate, and prison regulations decreed otherwise. With other white prisoners, Kachololo had to sweep the streets of Salisbury town, under the surveillance of a white guard on horseback. Down the street in question cantered Colonel X on his well known white horse. From force of habit, the horse stopped at the door of a well known bar; the rider-dismounted-flung the reins over the hitching post, and went inside.
'I bet ya a chew o' baccy, ya darena' jump the' white horse an' skedaddle!' said a gaol companion: 'Taken!' rejoined K and when close to the horse, Kachololo darted from the gang, jumped on it's back and away . . . Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang went the guard's rifle, but strangely, since the guard, Swede George Ernest Magnus Lever was a marksman, Kachololo was not hit and only the 'Man in the Moon' was in danger. (As an aside, in North Eastern Rhodesia, Kasama district, it was the same Leyer who grabbed the Wembaregalia, without which no native king could be right royally installed. In this ceremony a throat had to be slit and, the blood slithering through a sable bull's horn, was required to fall on a suspended bell, thus proving the succession valid.)
Meanwhile, the white horse, knowing its way, made for near Mount Hampden, where its rider, honest man, put it in its stable.
Kachololo walked to Tete on the Zambesi river, and on to Blantyre. Thanks to Rhodes' African Trans-Continental Telegraph Com-pany, Ltd., Kachololo was arrested on a telegraph warrant.
But, as Blantyre was sadly lacking the hallmark of civilisation, a gaol, he was lodged in the bulk-store during the night, and escorted by two native askari during the day. These, however were not as assiduous in their duties as they should have been and twice they 'stacked' firearms whilst they went courting or drinking and, so that these precious weapons should not be stolen (remember this was about the time of the 1896 Rebellion's afterclap) Kachololo had to carry them back across the Mudi stream to town in which was his prison.
Reprimanded by their officer, the guards vented their spleen on Kachololo when he was safely under lock and key in the bulk-store. What they said and did to him is unprintable, and their behaviour was so atrocious that Kachololo, having discovered a keg of gunpowder, feigned illness one evening and shouted that he was dying. Along came the white police officer on duty, who immediately sent for the Collector to whom Kachololo unfolded his woeful tale of sorry treatment: unless the Collector gave his word of honour that he should have white man's food from the Wally Kieller's hotel, the lighted candle would be dropped into the open keg of gunpowder !!
Taken aback, the Collector gaped, took a quick breath, and made a smart decision, whereby Kachololo gained his point, suffered no more anoyances from the askari and hastened his FIRST deportation from Nyasaland.
How he joined the prospecting expedition consisting of eight whitemen under the leadership of Frank Smitheman, the first 'Bwana Makubwa', (F. E. F. Jones being the second and myself third) I do no know. But he was on the Iruma mountains at the head of the Chang'wena stream when Fort Elves was being built on the suggestion of Colonel Manning who was preparing to 'smash' the Angoni, (which was done according to plan, and Mpeseni's son shot at dawn in 1898).
He was there when the coastmen's emissaries from what is now Ndola township were given the 'Union Jack' which they were to flaunt at any Belgian intrepid enough to invade Rhodesia and, mark well, the date would be 1896 or 1897.
Kachololo's birth-name was, I think, Edward Spencer, but this can be ascertained from his book entitled Kachololo which tells his life story and Asian adventures up to his coming to Southern Rhodesia probably in 1895. He did not print his Rhodesian escapades, which is a pity, for fact is often stranger than fiction. I am not clear about the change of surname to Bloomfield, which was, with nearly all of today's black intelligensia not by deed poll. The title 'doctor' was obtained in one of the United States of America, where, after a brief examination and payment of five dollars or some small fee he was exalted!
He was a 'crack shot' and made a living by shooting elephants, sometimes in Portuguese territory, sometimes in Rhodesian, and as he was there before effective administration, he saw neither need nor necessity to pay for game licences.
His last amazing escapade was at Chutika's village on the Luangwa near the 1900 crossing to Ilala and the West.
The husband grew the finest cotton ever seen, beating Egyptian even! The wife, after a couple of lonely years in Britain, came out to Fort Jameson, and after a matter of weeks, presented her husband with a baby! The little mite lived but a few days, then died and the mother went to her sadly neglected husband. When Kachololo called the husband was out hunting ivory. She did the comforts of the house while Kachololo as a medico 'comforted' her. After some talk he asked her, 'Are you really Bessie Pumpkin ? (a fictitious name, of course). The lady simpered but did not answer. 'Would you like to be Bessie Bloomfield ?' and the lady fell into his arms.
Kachololo left a note for the husband (sic) and in a canoe, took his bride down to Beira, where Cecil Courtenay Shackleton, the official, legally married them, to live happily for years.
I say no more except to thank Carl Wienand for bringing up the names of these two heroes.
Chirupula Stephenson
Arthur Steevens Click here to contact me
Stockport, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 08:59:46 (UTC)
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AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE BIRTHDAY FAIRY (IF I COULD EVER BE CALLED A FAIRY):
I promise not to be so slack in the future.
Elizabeth Lawson, James Parker, Andy Dray
Happy Birthday
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Friday, September 27, 2002 at 08:46:34 (UTC)
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Hi David
Thank you very much for those pictures of Jan and Aub. It is so wonderful seeing them again. You have made an old girl very happy today!!!!! I am so longing to see them next year. The photos will keep me going.
Thanks
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Friday, September 27, 2002 at 08:11:26 (UTC)
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To Ken Fernie, I replied to your Query via reply on your EM see result below,
This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
dysart52@cox.net
Sorry.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 08:05:45 (UTC)
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Northerners !

Congratulations to Aubrey Wienand - have a great 89th birthday on Saturday the 28th of September !!! May you have many more !

Aubrey and Jan Wienand celebrated their 63rd wedding anniversary earlier this year. They live in Ballito, KwaZulu Natal, with their daughter Marje Nel (GNR).
David Gray
Some more Banbury Bash pics.

Thanks go to Des Kenny, Johnny Green and Fiona Wall.
Please note these will be the FINAL photos posted from the Banbury Bash.
I am sending this photo on behalf of Peter Beckett

Hope it reaches you in good order.
Regards,
Michael Chandler
Arthur Steevens Click here to contact me
Stockport, United Kingdom Friday, September 27, 2002 at 07:35:43 (UTC)
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Steven and Margaret de Lange
Hi Popeye
It has been a looong time since we last met ! Good to make contact again after all these years. Thanks for responding to my request for info on the 'Maizie'. Most interesting information you have come up with. You mention two boats. The Rhokana Review April 1955 issue (page 30) describes a barge named 'Bean' - could that possibly be the second 'boat'? I know that a relation of the Coetzees (who lived on the corner of 4th Avenue and Club Street) was involved in bringing frozen bream in from Luapula - I wonder if that was part of the operation you mentioned ? I could do with a nice fresh small mouthed bream at the moment - it sets the taste buds tingling!!!! But then you have all that salmon in Canada.
Cheers
David Gray.
David Gray Click here to contact me
South Africa Friday, September 27, 2002 at 07:22:13 (UTC)
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Bash Attendees
Did any of you have photos taken with your camera of me and you together? I had planned to take 6 rolls of film but did not manage that and the majority of mine are actually of the band on Saturday. I would love to have memories of friends, old and new, and would appreciate it if you would be willing either to email me copies, or send me a copy by snail mail. Please let me know. Thanks!
PS: Bwana Grins, please do not post the one of me on the 18th hole. It will get us both into a lot of hot water!
Linda Hayes (née Dore) Click here to contact me
Austin, Texas, United States Friday, September 27, 2002 at 04:24:49 (UTC)
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David Grey mentioned the boat the Maisie, Steven (Popeye) remembers the boat well and several years ago contacted Andy Sokolich and received this reply - Yes, Steve I remember there were two boats. The year was 1944. They were built at Nkana Mine for the government. After they were tested in that water circulating dam, my Dad launched them in the Luapula River. At that time, my Dad was foreman of the waterworks, and after those boats were launched, he left the Mine and went into partnership with man whose name was Katz. They had an iceplant on the Luapula and transported fish for the Govt. and for the mines from Lake Bangula to Kapalala where the iceplant was. From there, with refrigeration trucks, they transported the fish to the mines. Unfortunately, the Govt.slowly took over the business, and my Dad returned to the mines to work in the locomotive shop.
Steven and Margaret de Lange (née (wife) Margaret Charles) Click here to contact me
Langley, British Columbia, Canada Friday, September 27, 2002 at 04:06:06 (UTC)
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Banbury Bash ...... For the record (ref Brian Geyser).
I was on the phone again to Brian Geyser (The Crusaiders) today discussing his and the other musicians performances at the recent bash ...... again I say THEY WERE ALL SUPERB!!!!
To put the record straight for all those whom have after Banbury been ringing and e. mailing Brian asking where and when he plays in the UK, Brian does not play publicly and has not done so for the past 25 years. His performance at Banbury was the 1st time in 25 years that he'd played publicly! Elias hope U R now convinced. I know I was thrilled by his superb mastery of the "original (yes) Hank Marvin Stratocaster guitar" that he purchased many years ago. If one shut one's eyes you would think the great master "Hank" himself was at the Bash playing that is how dedicated Brian is to his musical talent! The same applies to all the other musicians/performers at the Bash! Superb.
Heather Chalcraft.
The kids and I may just take U up on the Livingstone Bash offer subject to the final outcome of the impending divorce we have to face. I am sure we will need the change of environment! Thanks to all those people whom have been supporting and encouraging us during this difficult past 3 months.
Gary Brassington Click here to contact me
Banbury, Oxon., United Kingdom Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 20:42:41 (UTC)
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Can I add my voice to the chorus of THANKS for a wonderful evening in Banbury? I would have done so earlier but have been on a sick bed since returning to London! I am not sure if I should blame Johnny Green for dragging me round the golf course in the middle of the night! Or should I blame Elias for pouring all that Vodka down my throat!! And Arthur your camera tells fibs!! I had a fantastic time and wasn't sulking at all!
Tina and Linda
It was great meeting you both. Hopefully there will be another opportunity to spend more time together. If you do organise a bash in the States I will be there!!
Ada
Let me know when you return from your visit in Feb and I will make a point of coming to hear all the stories first hand! Enjoy it girl!
A huge thank you once again to Gary, Natasha and Scott, ALL the musicians who were fantastic! the chefs, cooks, and the wonderful company that made the night so special! Definitely a memory to cherish.
Hugs to all on the GNR.
Jacqui Milward (née Lackenby) Click here to contact me
London, England Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 20:00:20 (UTC)
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Heather I did not get the right train I got on one which was about 5 mins earlier but I thought as close as this to my time this must be it running early, it was'nt so i had to get off it and was lucky to catch the correct one 5 mins after i had got off but marknysarkny.Love Johnny.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 18:13:52 (UTC)
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This is really punishing my memory but here goes for Paudie.
Paudie asked me if I knew John Maxwell GM ex NRP and I said Yes he was a good friend of mine and asked me to post the story of how John lost his leg to a crocodile on the Kafue river so here is the story as I remember it.
John had been assigned to farm patrol a job he seemed to relish and of course he made many farmer friends between Chingola and Solwezi One of the families was called Cox and they had several young children on the farm, and the night before he had mentioned he was going into the river with these children and I remember reminding him of the crocs that were plentiful in those days as I had a plot on the river at that time and had been in the country a lot longer than John and felt justified in warning him, he shrugged off my warnings and the next day off he went, I canot vouch for the next part of the story as I was not present but I believe John was there and the kids were playing in the water and John had climbed out on the bank when he spotted a croc speeding towards one of the kids he screamed a warning to the children and promptly dived in to grab the one the croc was after which he suceeded in doing and threw him onto the bank out of harms way but as he himself was hauling his body out of the water the croc siezed him by I think it was his right leg dragging him back into the river but John allways a fighter gave it a mighty punch on the snout and suprisingly it let go of him by this time he was again in the centre of the river and turned to clamber on to a large rock there but as he was attempting to climb out of the water the croc came at him again and this time it got a good grip on his other leg this time it took him down to the bottom of the river and was holding him down there hoping to drown him, and as John told me it could have only been a minute down there but it seemed like a life time, but once again the croc underestimated our boy and John felt along its jaws and teeth with one hand either side of its jaws until he came to its eyes and then gouged both its eyes out with his thumbs that did the trick and it immediatley let go of his leg but this time the damage was terrible to see and this leg was nearly severed he pulled himself out of the water and laid on the rock in the middle of the river the commotion had attracted the attention of an African lady who on seeing Johns plight waded out to him and some how got him to the bank and into his land rover I think he got one of the older children to drive and he fitted himself up with two tourniquet's one on each leg and just managed to make it back to the main road to Chingola flag down a motorist and only just made it into hospital before he died from loss of blood a very courageous man, I went to see him the next day and was amazed at the change in him his hair had turned white over night and the shock and pain in his eyes was terrible to see they had amputated one leg straight away and were considering taking off the other one, and after seeing him I myself had a few nightmares thinking I was lying on the bottom of the river would I have thought about gouging out its eyes I doubt that nobody in his position would have, you would have been to happy to drown, what a guy, eventually he was shipped back to the uk and I think it was in a Liverpool hospital where he spent months that he met a nurse who was looking after him and eventually married her Paudie reminded me that her name was Janet she and my wife became good friends, John returned to the force and carried on his duties with great gusto never letting his leg bother him and eventually retired and went into the private detective game and when I left in 76 he was still living in Ndola, He is now living here in the uk and I believe that he is divorced, I rang him about a couple of years ago he did not seem to be a very happy man but if any one would like his number contact me privately. Johnny.
PS The African girl was given a new bicycle for her bravery.
Johnny Click here to contact me
Scarborough, United Kingdom Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 18:04:06 (UTC)
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Dear Medem Heather
I am confused.
How will writing IT teach me to spell braii?
xx Tina
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 16:29:01 (UTC)
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Heather.....
With a lump in my throat I say thank you.....what a beautiful picture, with the researching I have been doing....I have fallen in love with this mighty expanse of water...and the picture you have posted has put the icing on the cake.......and the Zambian/Rhodesian Teak..thanks, now I have a better understanding, every time I looked it up on the web I would get the most exquisite pictures of Teak furniture etc but no description of the actual tree..thank you so so much.......what would we do without you.......
Ali
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 15:33:37 (UTC)
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At long last ... I have finished my magazine and can now get around to this posting so stand by for a long one, because not only do I have a million comments to make to everyone, I also have nearly three weeks of postings to catch up on.
Brasso, Tash and Scott
I don't quite know how to express my thanks. I know what a big job it was and everything went off without a hitch. Well done and if you're at a loose end next year, I might offer you a job to help me with the one in Livingstone. How does that sound?
Dawie, Arthur, Craig
I'm not going to say too much here because I'll blow my image with everyone else. But I am sure that I get a lot more pleasure out of the GNR than anyone else does and it is only because of you three.
Elias
Me swear? You're thinking about someone else. And why were you too scared to come into a dark room with me? I only wanted to show you my fluorescent nail varnish. But you won't get such an offer again you're too old now - what with you being a Grandfather and all!!
Brian Geyser
Yesterday while I was putting my magazine together, I had your CD's playing - superb. I shall treasure them. And now I'm going to have a look at the photos of Jim and Sonya's wedding and see if I can spot you in any of them. just a few minutes ago, Essie Stucki came in and she remembers you well and your music.
John, Kim, Jamie, Brian, Julia, Paudie, Thelma, Mike
Don't put those instruments away. You have a date in Livingstone in September 2003.
Tina Magee
Good to meet you. But you really must learn to spell BRAAI. You can write it out 100,000 time and send it to Arthur.
Laura Charbonnier
Sorry we didn't have more time to chat - I would have liked to have caught up on the news of Frank and the rest of the family.
Mark Powell
Yes, you had better get rid of that limey accent quickly, otherwise you will be barred from entering Zambia.
Scarscalp
Good to see you and Debbie again and sorry I didn't go all ga-ga over the picannin - we left Craig to do that on our behalf. It was Blitish Scareways (we had a good fright) that brought me back so quickly. And via Johannesburg too! Had Kevin Shone snoring next to me all night and it was so bad that the woman on the other side moved in the middle of the night and NEVER came back. Not even the next morning. Ag Siestog!!
Johnny Green
Hope you got the right train and didn't end up on the wrong side of that little island.
Cookie and Theresa Brassington
Thank you for all your hard work too. Send me an email confirming what day you arrive in Lusaka so that I make sure I don't go off somewhere. And I'll organise a proper breakfast for you too.
Hartley Heaton
Yes, the picture in your mind is of my father and he still wears khaki shorts, khaki socks and keeps his pipe in his sock. I haven't had a chance to chat to him yet, but I shall ask if he remembers you, which he undoubtedly will.
Mike Wilson
Good to chat to you and I'm looking forward to those photos that you took in Luangwa.
Chris and Ada Cantrell
Really was good to meet you and I look forward to meeting you again in Zambia in January/February. Let me have the details of your trip and I'll sort it out for you.
All the other people at Banbury were fast asleep - they missed out on what is probably the best, most easily readable book that has been written on Zambia's history - Show Time by Dick Hobson. Don't you just love all those little stories about the different people - the Susman Brothers, the Jerominskys, Captain John Brown, Billy "D", J W Penny, Mopani Clarke.
Bill Laing
What happened? I was looking out for you.
Banbury and the Questions You Ask
I managed to speak with many people at Banbury and they all asked the same questions, so here are the answers for those who also want to know but didn't ask:
Roads - the Great North Road from Livingstone to Kalomo is in good shape. The section from Kalomo to Monze has just been rebuilt and should be opened in the next week or ten days. From there is it is in good condition (except for about five potholes near Chisamba) until you reach Kabwe (Broken Hill). The section from Kabwe to Kapiri is being rebuilt now (the contract has only just started). The road from Kapiri to Nakonde was rebuilt about three years ago. From Kapiri to the Copperbelt, the road is in good shape, except for the Luanshya Bypass. The road from Chingola to Chililabombwe (Bancroft) is good, From there to Kasumbalesa, the road is bad, but the contractors should already be on site. The Great East Road from Lusaka to Chipata (Fort Jameson) is good except for about sixty kilometres just after Petauke. The road from Chirundu to the Mazabuka junction is good although it needs some work done quickly otherwise it won't last long and the road to Siavonga has been rebuilt. The road to Mansa (Fort Rosebery) all the way up to Kawambwa is good as is the road from Mpika to Kasama and onwards up to Mpulungu although the section between Kasama and Mbala (Abercorn) is starting to form potholes. The road between Kasama and Mporokosa is a nightmare, but its still a gravel road so not as bad as a bad, tarred road.
The roads in the towns are not so good except that all the high-volume roads in Lusaka, Kitwe, Ndola, Solwezi, Livingstone, Kabwe, Mansa, Mongu, Chipata and Kasama have been done in the last three years and this year, they are doing Luanshya and Mufulira. The roads in Chingola are still not good.
Shopping and Shortages - We no longer have shortages except occasionally we can't get some things - king size prawns, French wines, kippers, caviar .....
The Auction
The total amount raised from the auction was £ 216, with the best selling item being a bottle of Mosi which went for £ 50. John thanks for doing your auctioneer bit, Shamus for buying it (did I spell that right and sorry, I have no idea what your surname is). It certainly was worth carting it around with me for two weeks before the bash. The funds raised have been handed over to Craig to cover the expenses he incurs every month in hosting the GNR.
I also got my brain in a twist. I thought Arthur still had two copies of the book Waterfalls Of Zambia by Francois D'Elbee so didn't bring any with me. I also didn't manage to get any copies of Francois' latest book, The Bush And Eye - there was a problem with the printing and even though I tried to arrange to pick up copies in Johannesburg on my way, I failed. I do however have copies sitting in my office with me now.
Doug Grewar
Sorry I missed your birthday. I hope it was happy. As Arthur correctly said, I was swanning around Europe. Dave and I were watching a programme on television about the Battle of Agincourt and they mentioned the town of Harfleur and we decided that it looked like an interesting place so we jumped on a train the next day, spent the night in Harfleur, had a good look around and came back the following day, after a delicious lunch in Paris. Now this is the way I like to travel - spur of the moment - and at last I've found someone who will do it with me. Just don't know what I'm going to do after next Tuesday when he joins the working classes again.
Gordon Garlick
Thanks for the drink, much appreciated.
David Gray
Tell me more about 'Maizie' and I'll see what I can find out.
Charlie Cartmill
What about the Cape Town Caper?
Alix
You asked about the source of the Zambezi. Here is a photograph which I have scanned from Zambezi, Journey of a River by Michael Main
I was hoping to get up there next month, but don't know whether I'll be able to or not - I have to make a choice between that (including Mwinilunga, Sakeji and Kalene Hill) or Isanga Bay on Lake Tanganyika. And then in between all of that, I have to go to the Kairara Gova Traditional Ceremony on 12 October and the Mbambala Traditional Ceremony on 15 October.
You also asked about Rhodesian Teak. My book calls it Zambian Teak (probably because it was published in 1979 and to say Rhodesia then, was to swear. Its proper name is Baikiaea Plurijuga or Zambezi Redwood, Mukusi (Lozi) or Mukushi (Tonga). It is a deciduous, semi-deciduous and sometimes evergreen tree, up to twenty seven metres tall with a straight bole. The leaves are up to ten cm long and consist of three to six thin, leathery leaftlets, dark green and glossy above, paler and slightly hairy below. The leaves fall from April to October and new leaves occur from August to December. Between November and June, the purple flowers appear and each flower lasts only one day. From mid-June to mid-November the dark brown pods mature, opening explosively to release the seeds. It is found throughout the Western Province. The wood is very hard, heavy, strong, stable and durable with a fine even texture. It was widely used for railway sleepers, mining timber, furniture and flooring. Both heartwood and bark contain tannins. Decoctions of the bark are used to treat syphilis and to make a fortifying tonic. (From Know Your Trees by A E G Storrs)
Show Time
For all the Banbury Bashers who were asleep that evening - this is your chance. And also a chance for the lurkers on this site.
A few weeks ago, I managed to lay my hands on the last few copies of the book Show Time by Dick Hobson (Dick passed away about three weeks ago). Although it says that it is about the history of the Agricultural and Commercial Society of Zambia (the Show Society), it contains much, much more than that - stories of the non-mining pioneers of this country - Hugh Walker, the first man to occupy a farm in North-Western Rhodesia and how he came to Zambia in 1898; Josselin de Jong who was a cotton farmer in North-Eastern Rhodesia and first entered Zambia in 1896; Tommy Moore; Henry Rangeley, Gordon Lobb, the tale of Makeni; Boyd Cunningham; Ben Woest; C J Hazard; Wingy Werner; the Woodrow Cross'; the great locust plague of 1930; the list goes on and on.
This book will be sent to the person who bids the highest for it and the proceeds will go towards Craig's expenses for hosting the site.
Place your bids on the Message Board.
DON'T MISS IT - THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!
And now to look at all those photographs.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) Click here to contact me
Lusaka, Zambia Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 14:37:55 (UTC)
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Johnny's Pole Dancer identified -
Turns out to be a very pretty and proper picture of Moi Moo tango-ing with one of the marquee posts. She has one slim leg draped elegantly down the front of the pole. So maybe we can now call her Moi Moo Von Saracen after Hennie. Except she "parks thet bleddy thing" much more scenically than poor Hennie Von Saracen did in the song.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) Click here to contact me
Texas, United States Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 13:17:48 (UTC)
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Elias Georgopoullos
Those weren't insults, they were first impressions :>)))))
Great to meet you at the Bash.
Johnny Green
Don't forget to post the story of John Maxwell, NRP ex-Chingola. I remember now that his wife's name was Janet.
Paudie Coughlan Click here to contact me
Ireland Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 10:57:46 (UTC)
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Wilma Wall (nee Henry)
I am so sorry I didn't meet you at the bash. You were one of the people I really wanted to speak to. We probably passed each other often. But there were so many people to talk to and so much to do, the night just went. What I wanted to ask you was where is your brother George? He and my brother, Bob Wienand, were great friends. Maybe at the next Bash I will get to meet you.
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 08:01:28 (UTC)
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Alan and Theresa
I hadn't forgotten you. I really enjoyed our time together. The whole of the Bassington family are terrific and we hope that we can all meet agan soon. How are the feet Theresa? Take care of yourself.
Mark and Liz
Great to see you again. Good luck with the medicals. We shall miss you at any future GNR get togethers but good luck with you plans for the future. Just keep in touch on the message board. I am terribly jealous of you heading for all that sun!!!
Lorrain, Ian and Family
Well what can I say. It was wonderful meeting you all and I hope that we can meet again soon. Lorraine remember what I said. Any time you want to talk just send an email or phone. Best of luck for the future. I llok forward to hearing from you.
Guy
I hope that you do contact us when you are next in Hastings. Both Chris and I would love to meet you again.
Fiona and Graham
Hope to see you both again soon - we didn't manage to spend enough time with you, but the time we had was great.
And everyone else that I have missed out it was great meeting you all.
Ada
Ada Cantrell (née Wienand) Click here to contact me
Hastings, East Sussex, England Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 07:40:52 (UTC)
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What a wonderful weekend – it was over too soon and I didn’t want to go home (nothing to do with the hangover I had on Sunday, I promise). It was great to meet up with old friends and to make new ones, just like one big, happy family.
A BIG THANK YOU to:
Gary and his family for working so hard to organise the weekend.
The band for the entertainment – I think I danced all night (my leg muscles think so anyway!)
Artie, Heather (you told me I had to post more often!), Dave (do I really look like your sister?) and Craig – what would we do without GNR?
Linda and Tina – I can’t remember when I last laughed so much. (Linda – you are a very BAD mother – poor Innocence is now an orphan!)
Fiona and Graham – what gems – let us know when you are due back in the UK so that we can get together.
Fiona (Fifi) for introducing me to GNR and being there for me.
And everyone else who made the weekend so memorable.
Zambia here I come in September. A little bird mentioned that there might be another bash being organised in a field early next year, I do hope its true – I cant wait!!
Diane
Diane Sewley (née Longman) Click here to contact me
Bristol, United Kingdom Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 06:03:30 (UTC)
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Sorry the message board was down for a bit -- lots of HTML to clean up, and I promise not to point any fingers in public. :)
I am back from Banbury (for almost 24 hours now) and catching up on work, but I will have something to say when I get a moment. Of course, I can at least thank Gary for organising a hell of a do. Thanks Gary! (I can also point out that Elias has incorrectly spelled my name yet again.)
For those of you waiting to have your new entries into the Names Directory activated, I will be getting to that today. I didn't do any of that while I was in the UK. Anybody also waiting for a reply to e-mail to me should get that today as well.
Craig Hartnett Click here to contact me
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 21:49:27 (UTC)
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HEY GRAND PAPA Elias......
Congrats to your son Jason and his girlfriend....
LOVE IS IN THE AIR !!!
to all the posters from the bash, what wonderful stories, info etc I can honestly say without a doubt these bashes bring out this crazy thing called love...wow....the goosies and the ganders are really there...thank you for sharing your happy moments.......
....you are making me all the more wanting to go to Zambia next year for the big one..oh man that will be a good one.....
hey Tina...you looked so slim and slinky and very pretty........(just love ya !!!)
Ali
Ali Key Click here to contact me
Perth, Australia Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 18:39:59 (UTC)
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PAUDIE
Hey you quiet Irishman!! Less of those insults. You and me might be related now. My eldest son and his Irish girlfriend have just had a baby girl. Knowing that all Irishmen are related you and me are now family.
JOHNNY GREEN
Johnny you are right about that Jaquie Milward, she is a looker, but she wasted the whole night talking to Dave Cooper about Ferrari gearboxes and Norton motorbikes. A long time ago she said any time I was in London, she would buy me a cup of coffee, but after seeing what I really look like, she never mentioned it again.
You mentioned Linda Hayes on the golfcourse. Are you sure it was her? Because I thought she was hiding in the cupboard in my room during Heather's inspection.
BRIAN GEYSER
Does anyone know whether Brian is making a fool of me or not? A number of people asked me where Brian performs and what his band is called. Now, Brian tells me he hasnt performed live for years which I find hard to believe as he sounded even better than he used to.
Elias
Elias Georgopoullos Click here to contact me
Dundee, Scotland Wednesday, September 25, 2002 at 18:18:10 (UTC)
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Back home in Texas. Ted met me at the airport with red roses. The house looks like a florist's shop with balloons and flowers. This is the sweetest, kindest, man. Son and dog (dog is youngest child) are lekker too.
Week before the bash at Fiona (Fifi La Gayther's) with her brother John, Linda Dore Hayes, dear Diane Sewley popping in and out and showing us her lovely new house and driving us to the Bash. Have never laughed so much. John the Creator "Innocent" was a work of art. Linda is a hoot! And you must all know when Linda Hayes is writing wickedly funny things on the computer she has this deadpan saintlike little expression all flowing hair, mona lisa smile and purity shining from her eyes. It is very very funny. Dave you cook a helluva good braii and it was lovely walking the dogs with you.
Pre-bash impressions: Linda Hayes and Diane Sewley preparing tables and blowing up balloons sometimes in rather phallic arrangements. Brassingtons and Forbes everywhere. Preparing salads with Fiona Gayther, Ada and Chris Cantrell, (Cantrells that was the best, warmest most talkative trip back in your car to Horley and too short. Thank you.) Fiona and Graham Wall can I come out with you and play next time if there's room in your mini? (It's a Jag). Dessie you are a star. Gary, Natasha and Scott. Gary can we get that NZ cook a stick of wors to try sometime. He was such a love and so helpful). HELLUVA bash Gary!!!
Bash Impressions:
Wonderful food and drink. Finishing defrosting wors in the microwaves prior to cooking.
Meeting Liz Starley Tring from Lusaka Convent again. Looking GOOD girl. ((Susan Anthony is out there too Liz. Email me again Sue!!! Laura and Dianne ex-Charbonnier are also Lus Convent girls and Janie Dalton-Ledeboer and Leslie Dalton)).
F & G Wall and Moi Moo dancing - woohoo!!! The whole dance floor supporting singing along with chorus bits of Love Potion Number Nine. Biggest regret - that you can't sit down and get to know everyone you are introduced to even all your own table and everyone looks |
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