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Martin Thompson Happy Birthday Kathy Watson Here is a picture of Linda Van Blerk and another of her husband, Harry Thomas, taken in September last year. Not the best I'm afraid and they'll probably murder me for putting such grotty photos on the board. Was the Pam Taylor that you mention from Mazabuka? If it's the same one, she passed away a few years ago. Her brother Bruce is still in Mazabuka. I wonder what happened to the Waldrons? Alexandra and her family lived next door to us on the Leopard's Hill Road in the 60's. 'Winkie' Gosling's family is still in Mazabuka, but I'm not sure where Winkie is. Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) — Click here to contact me Lusaka, Zambia Monday, February 24, 2003 at 15:02:45 (UTC)

Hi Arthur Will send these pictures one by one as two of them are quite large and I don't know if they will cause you any problems I am probably going to be in the "Dog Box" by putting the "Eldridge Girls" (current) on the GNR, but it was such a happy occasion (my eldest daughter's wedding) and we don't get together and have a photo taken often so I thought, what the hell. Left to Right: Heather Eldridge, Vivienne Eldridge, Lynthia Eldridge and Shirley Naude (whose mom was an Eldridge) I have been meaning to send you the "Garneton Gang" (GG1 and GG2) for a long while, but have only managed to get around to it now. The pictures bring back so many wonderful memories and I am sure that the GNR'ers will enjoy them and they will spark more wonderful memories as most of those pictured are known to many on the GNR. GG1: Left to Right: Sitting on the car - Bruce Thurtell, Terence Naude and Henry Novak Standing in front of the car - Peter Strydom, Graham Eldridge and Chris Hill (I'm not quite sure why the cigarettes, but they all look so cute!) GG2: Left to Right: Sitting on the Fire Truck - Graham Eldridge, Gary Eldridge, Shirley Naude, Lynthia Eldridge and Bruce Thurtell In back of truck - Vivienne Eldridge and Henry Novak Standing in front of truck - Peter Strydom, Terence Naude and Chris Hill (The pool was being filled thus the fire truck - wasn't life marvellous in those days!) Regards Viv Vivienne Jeannette Buitendag - Boksburg, South Africa Hello Arthur, My Mum unearthed the attached photo of Marymount College. I think it was taken in 1967/68. Marymount College is in Umtali (now Mutare) - actually, just east of the town itself. I do have a few names - here goes :- Ann Needham, Charlotte Joiner, Alexandra Waldron, Diedre Fitzgibbon, Denise Darey, Kathy Jackson, Chatalle, Calliope, Linda Van Blerk, Cathy L'Eclazio ( spelling ??) Jane Acton, Sandra Penfold, Lindsay Stanton, Jane Christopher, Jane Godsall, Jane Godwin, Antoinett and Joan Kufall, Pam Taylor, Robyn Farquason, Mary-Ann Acton, "Winkie" Gosling, and so many more The only message I can think of is that I had such a wonderful time there. They say your school years are the best, and in this situation they are very right. I am trying to reach a few old friends, and have managed to get in contact with one so far. Many thanks for adding this to your site - I am hopeful it will jog a few memories. Kathy Watson - Wokingham, Berkshire, United Kingdom Hi Arthur I'm one of the Eldridge Girls, in fact Viv's sister Heather. I am at long last sending you the photos which I scanned about 15 months ago, from Des Burns' collection and have been meaning to send them so that you can put them on the GNR. Grant went through them last night and tried to fill in all the names, but there are some that stumped him, but he has done pretty good. This first one is Under 14 Kitwe Boys High - 1963 Please put a little message that this one is "especially for Pappy and sorry it took so long" Des Burns Boxing 1964 From Des Burn's Collection 37 Years on. What I did with this one is a little cutting and pasting. I thought it was great to be able to have a picture of these three in the good old days, and the three of them 37 years later, quite amazing, especially when Noel is now living in Australia. The picture of the three of them taken in 2001, was taken at Richard Borejszo's place in Muldersdrift, Gauteng, RSA, while Noel was out here on a holiday. More of Des Burns's photo's. Boxing 1 and 1961 are also put on the GNR for Natasha Malan, cos they have got her Dad, Eddie Malan in them as well. The lovely lady in this photo is Marion Griffiths our Great Aunt (Heather and Vivienne's) and Mom of our very own Maz Martin. These are the last 2 old School photos that I have. Hopefully will be able to post some more a little later, I will get all the old Kitwe gang that we have here to go through their albums. Thanks Heather Knowles (nee Eldridge) - Boksburg, South Africa Northerners ! Some more great wildlife shots from Mike Wilson And also from Mike a brilliant photo taken from the top of CPC tower Nkana East Overlooking Central Street - facing north-westish Central Street is the main road at the bottom of the photo - heading leftwards is towards town, heading right is towards the Kafue River. The house on Central Street bottom right is where I learned to ride a two-wheeler bike and my friends house. Riverain School on Geddes Street can be seen - about quarter of the way down from the top and about a third of the way in from the right of the photograph. 23rd Avenue cuts across the photo leading off Central Street and you can see leading up to the right, Philip Street and then next Geddes Street. Dave tells me his house is just visible, 3rd house up from the entrance to Riverain. Kitwe slimes Dam is in the middle distance, Kitwe town centre a little further on. Fantastic pic Mike - this one brought back many memories back for me, all these roads I travelled as a youngster on my way back and to from school. As Dave Cooper said "thanks Dude" Arthur Bill Knotty Get your catty out boy ! From Peter Hills collection A good reaction to the Luanshya Map ! Next I will put up the Ndola map very soon. I have also had numerous offers of various town maps, some of them on their way to me right now, several including Lusaka and one I'm very interested to look at - Lusaka c1960. I contacted the printers of the Federal Survey maps to enquire about a map of Broken Hill, I got this reply: "Thank you for your enquiry, unfortunately we do not have such a map, this was to save printers ink, you see there was no need of a map - the road went in and then it went out before we did the by-pass. There was a railhead, a lead mine, and Boons Bar, an old skull, a tree which was left as a landmark to warn everyone approaching and .... that's it. Oh yes we nearly forgot - one petrol pump, but the attendant left for a better job ringing a bell. We would query your request for such a map, the residents were bushmen, bushwomen and a few bushwackers and wayward women from up north, stopping on occasion looking for business. After a thorough search we did come up with this post-card which may be of use which illustrate the towns "attractions". Please be warned to seek the advice of your doctor before attempting to travel here and ensure you are vaccinated for everything your GP can think of". Easy-read map of Broken Hill Thanks everyone - another brilliant round of photos! Arthur Arthur Steevens — Click here to contact me Stockport, United Kingdom Sunday, February 23, 2003 at 17:44:56 (UTC)

Chisanga My Bemba 'teacher' tells me: ichipembele is one, big rhino chipembele is just one rhino akapembele is a small rhino I too hope that history is kinder to Alice Lenshina than her contemporaries have been. I feel that the book 'Blood On Their Hands' goes a long way to exposing the true story. And there is obviously a lot to hide because according to the author, Kampamba Mulenga, there is no documentation on this in our National Archives and he had a hell of a time getting any information at all for the book. Finally had to rely on a few court records. However, most of the information came from eye-witness accounts, from members of the Lumpa Church, members of the security forces and members of the general public. He was a child of 15 at the the time and lived in the Chinsali area, but was not a member of the Lumpa Church. Hartley I have maps of Lusaka, Ndola and Kitwe as they are today and all without folds. We'll discuss and see what we can get done with them to get them onto the site. Johnny Green Chilanga is a variation of the word 'Chilongo' (don't know if I have the spelling right) which means 'punishment'. There was an open air prison at present day Chilanga and the inmates used to walk around shouting 'chilongo'. That is how Chilanga got its name. It is now part of the ZAWA headquarters. This is a picture of the inside of the prison enclosure. CJ What is happening about Charlie's Cape Town Caper? Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) — Click here to contact me Lusaka, Zambia Saturday, February 22, 2003 at 13:27:05 (UTC)

Northerners! Yesterday evening I went over to visit Peter Hills, about an hours drive away. Peter was waiting, grinning as he revealed his latest find, he knew I'd be blown away. I certainly was. On his office table were two large scale maps (3.16 inches to the mile) dated 1961 from the Department of Federal Surveys, covering Ndola and Luanshya on one map, and with Kitwe, Chingola and Mufulira on the other. Both maps are in absolute pristine condition, tucked away and nearly forgotten for over 40 years. The Kitwe Map on the GNR site is probably based on a similar Federal Survey Map - I will check with Dave Cooper tomorrow. I was going to keep these maps aside until the new GNR website was up and running, but they will take a little time to scan properly, the maps are creased on their natural folds and also need many hours of work to remove these creases digitally. So instead of waiting for months I am releasing a sort of preview before any work is carried out on them. I do not intend working on making another Kitwe map as there is no point, the one already on the site is probably the best you will ever see. Luanshya comes first - the other maps of Chingola, Mufulira and Ndola will follow soon. Please bear in mind this map has been compressed in jpeg and even so, is still a large image at 880kb (the average image posted on the message board is around 30-40kb). When the image has opened right click on it and save it on your computer to save it if you wish. It is not even near it's best and will be replaced in the future when I have worked on it. If anyone has access to, or knows of any people who can vacuum scan large dimension documents in the UK I would like hear from you. I intend to get these maps in high resolution and on to CD for distribution to the members of the GNR. This is another score for the Copperbelt! All the waiting images I have are also Copperbelt. It is no use complaining that the Copperbelt dominates if members do not send their images for posting. Has anyone a good detailed maps of Lusaka, Broken Hill, Livingstone etc etc.? Come on you people ! Luanshya - 1961 - Department of Federal Survey Map - Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland From the collection of Peter Hills. To those who have sent images in for the site and are awaiting their posting please be patient. I know you will all understand. Thank you Peter Thank you Craig Arthur Arthur Steevens — Click here to contact me Stockport, United Kingdom Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 23:02:02 (UTC)

Mary Fisher, Russell Volk, Madeleine Luckin Happy Birthday What A Disaster``` On Monday I thought I would take a quick trip to Blue Lagoon National Park. 'What? In the middle of the wet season?' I can hear you asking. Well ... just a few weeks ago, I received a press release from the WWF saying that the road had now been repaired, so I figured it should be fine. But it wasn't. I got about three-quarters of the way there to find an enormous mud patch and when we walked through it, we sunk up to our knees and there was no way round it. I decided to be sensible and turned back. But we did see a few interesting things along the way: The Mwembeshi River A false Baobab (I can't remember its proper name right now) and some Marabou storks We also stopped in at one of the game farms on the way back for lunch Alix Bemba - icipembele Kaonde - kipembele Lozi - sukulu Lunda - insontu Luvale - soto Nyanja - chipembele Tonga - chipembele Chipembele was the nickname given to Sir Stewart Gore-Browne of Shiwa Ng'andu. Chisanga Puta-Chekwe I agree with you - neither of the parties have a full appreciation of what is going on. There are a few individuals who do, but they are lonely voices. Marion ALice Lenshina's true name was Alice Lenshina Mulenga Lubusha. She was born in the early 1920's in Senior Chief Nkula's area of Chinsali. Nkula is a Bemba chiefdom on the loop of the lower Lubu River near the Lubwa River, at the far end of the Muchinga Escarpment. Alice was from Kasomo Village. Her father was a relative of Paramount Chief Chitimukulu, Senior Chief Nkulu Chewe and Chief Mukwikile. Her mother was Musungu Chimba who was also of royal blood. She was not executed. She died a natural death after being incarcerated for many years. She was arrested in Kasama on 11 August 1964 and spent her time in various different prisons around Zambia including Mumbwa, Livingstone, Chingombe and Kalabo. Despite being arrested in 1964, she was only served with grounds of detention in 1970. In 1973, a Tribunal was held to review her continued detention. The Tribunal ruled that her detention had been unlawful and that she should be released. However, instead of being released she was transferred to Mukobeko Maximum Security Prison in Kabwe. She was finally released from there on 23 December 1975, but was not allowed to leave Lusaka. From then until the beginning of 1978 she lived in a house in Chilenje, Lusaka where she was, effectively, under house arrest. On 7 December 1978 she died peacefully in her home. But even then, it did not end. The authorities would not release her body for burial. Finally, on 15 December 1978 she was put to rest in the small house built on the site of the demolished Kamutola Church. A bed was placed in the house and the roof was sealed. A small pigeon hole was left to allow fresh air to enter the hut. I also question whether everything about Alice Lenshina was 'to a negative end'. Her main crime, as far as I can see, was because her followers were asked to abstain from politics. Was this such a bad thing? And her religion - was it not a good thing as it was a truly African church and not something that was foisted on them by foreigners? Certainly, telling her followers that they would be protected from bullets was not right, but was the intimidation and violence unleashed on them by UNIP not the start of it all? Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) — Click here to contact me Lusaka, Zambia Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 14:05:49 (UTC)