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Pappy
Yes my dad did own DK Pestcontrol. He lives in Durban and has his own home maintenance business. He is well.
Barbara Doherty [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 17:38:59 (UTC)
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To Lynn Szeftel:
Well Lynn. I never knew Roy had a sister. He never mentioned it. Whatever Roy said had to be sifted and filtered for various reasons so maybe what he told Bob and me (see Bob`s post) about Pip and himself was not so. Anyway, I`m chuffed Pip is well, happy and safe.
By the tone of your post I have obviously offended, I therefore apologize unreservedly. I will not be posting in the future so this will not occur again.
Ross
Rossley Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Leicester, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 15:09:45 (UTC)
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Pierre
Yes I am still here and see Henri every now and again. Look me up when you come here
Gerard
Gerard Fagan [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Kitwe, Zambia
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 15:07:31 (UTC)
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Dave Swan,
Zat's a good one about Eurospelling. Makes my spelling look positively erudite! A good site on spelling reform is www.freespeling.com (with one L).
Re crosswords I got an excellent program from http://www.bryson.ltd.uk/teabuy.html
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 14:52:39 (UTC)
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To: Ross Gillies
Let me correct you. My brother Roy, does indeed live in Manchester but no way did he end up with Pip or even has anything to do with her. She is my best friend and has been for many years and still is very happily married to Peter Juerges and has two beautiful daughters.
My brother married a girl named Sue Page whom he met here in Lusaka and also has two children. Yes, he is not a 100% health wise, much of it due to his own fault.
Cheers
Lynn
Lynn Szeftel (née Mayoss) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 13:25:52 (UTC)
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Barbara,did your dad own D.K.pest control,if so I worked for him.is he still around.
Pappy Papier [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 12:03:05 (UTC)
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Neville
We lived in Kitwe until 1981 and the farm was owned by Wally Dickerson. My father, Mike Doherty, was a good friend of Wally's and used to play tennis over at the farm. I loved going with him just to ride the cable car over the river. When we arrived on the main side we would have to hoot that we were there and Wally would send the cable car over. If it was windy it would be a precarious ride over, but I loved it. If the river was high the the cable car wouldn't be far off the water. The gardens were fantastic with a wonderful tennis court ,big pool and everything blending in with each other so beautifully. I sometimes would go horse riding with Phillip, Wally's son. I loved visiting the place.
Sad to hear that Wally died.
On another note,could anyone tell me what type of passport they obtained if they were born in Rhodesia before UDI. I am trying to work out if my British passport was given to me because I was born in Rhodesia while it was still a British colony or because my parents were British. It will have a bearing on weather my children are entitled to British passports.
Barbara Doherty
Barbara Doherty [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 11:31:43 (UTC)
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David Hoyle and Heather,
Yes, Des Hunt, brother of Johnny is still in Kabwe farming about 10 miles south. His latest ventutre is growing coffee and Dave Murdoch took Tweedie and I out to visit him last January. He celebrated his 80th birthday last April.
I have a few photos taken at the farm, at the dam and showing off a very impress coffee crop. I'd post em if I knew how.
Jack Wardell [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scotland, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 09:38:49 (UTC)
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Jigger Edwards
Best wishes on your birthday
DAVID HOYLE
There is a Des Hunt who is still in Kabwe. Don't know if it is the same one.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Saturday, January 31, 2004 at 09:06:07 (UTC)
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EuroEnglish for Doug Grewar
The European Union is fast becoming a joke. EU commissioners are expected to announce soon that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.
But as part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for "EuroEnglish".
In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. The hard "c" will be replaced with a "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome"ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 percent shorter.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, always a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go. By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by "v".
During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
Efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking ze lengwage like zey vunted in ze forst plas.
This was in a letter to The Herald a few years ago.
I cut it out and knew it would come in useful 1 day.
David Swan [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 22:29:41 (UTC)
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Bob looks like Ross has popped his head up at last,knew if we waited long enough he would.Stay on the G.N.R. Ross and we will jog your memory for you.
Pappy Papier [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 20:06:26 (UTC)
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Gilly the last time I saw you, you were shaking a little as well, I must admit so was I, but don't go climbing any ladders will you, Love Johnny.
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Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 18:29:34 (UTC)
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Hah, all becomes clear. My memories are not too good on our earlier life, due to a trauma suffered a few years ago, Bob has far better recall than I. Pip Bessant was indeed my first love whom I`ve never forgotten over the years despite being happily married for 23 years now. I`d love to meet her again and I think she lives in the Northwest around Manchester or Chester area. This is what Roy Mayoss told me the last time I saw him. He lives in Manchester UK. He gave me a first Edition copy of his book, "A taste of dust". All about us and our antics.
Roy`s health is not too good so anyone knows him, wish him well. Did`nt know Pip ended up with Roy though?
Will email you soon Bob OK.
Anyone remember the Ace`s band or Sounds 5 plus one. Someone must have heard us play. Let me know as I was the drummer. We gigged at the hangout Luansha, at ndola hotel and the greek hall kitwe among other places.
Ross Gillies, (brother to Bob)
Rossley Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Leicester, United Kingdom
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 18:18:42 (UTC)
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Gordon Rossiter, where are you???? A message out of the blue which I replied to in double quick time then nothing. No I am not one of the maidens Wilma has spoken of but one of the little sisters who had a huge crush on you. Where are you, what are you doing etc. etc.
On the topic of the circus - nasty story. Went with my Mum when I was about 9-10 years old, the trapeze artist lady was climbing up the rope stairs and I noticed she was shaking like a leaf. When she got to the platform I turned to Mum and said "that lady is going to fall". Jeez got such a resounding clap around the lug for it and Mum hissed in my ear "behave yourself, your a very bad girl". Five minutes later, the lady fell - broke her back and ended up in traction at Muf hospital. Mum and I never mentioned it again - don't know if she put it down to the "eyes of a child" or what. Put it this way, had long hair at the time and when she brushed it or combed it, didn't feel like she was trying to find the ole "666" imprinted on my bonce!!!
Tara for now
Gill
Gill Main [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Aberdeen, Scotland
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 18:07:57 (UTC)
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Craig & John Pringle
Thanks for the tips. As soon as I finish with GNR I am heading there.
Doron
Many a true word said in jest. I occasionally battle with a crossword only to find it's my bad spelling causing the problem. I have the same problem with several of the many other languages besides English that I speak, for instance Scots, Irish, Welsh, American, Canadian, Australian etc. :-)
To further fox thing up we have 11 official languages in South Africa plus several unofficial ones, not to mention derdetaal and tsotsitaal.
My son, who can spell far better than I, goes to a Hoerskool ( not an academy for ladies of the night ), while the german kids go to a schule over the road. No vunder zat I is kak mit my spellunks.
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 17:58:47 (UTC)
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here are a few for the new month:
Intaxication : Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with.
Reintarnation : Coming back to life as a hillbilly.
Bozone : The atmosphere surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating.
Cashtration : The act of buying a house, which renders the subject financially impotent for an indefinite period.
Beelzebug : Satan in the form of a mosquito that gets into your bedroom at 3 in the morning and cannot be cast out.
Ignoranus : A person who is both stupid and an a***hole.
Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
Bob Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Springs, Gauteng, South Africa
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 15:06:37 (UTC)
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Exactly as you said:
Placing all of your trust in your tools (whether it's software, a car, an aeroplane, or the like) without the commensurate knowledge to back it up is a dangerous thing.
CU
Robert
Robert Worrill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Christchurch, New Zealand
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 11:08:31 (UTC)
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Doron
You should try finding the shift key. lol
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 05:54:36 (UTC)
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Linda,
If those viruses emanated from Australia then blame the Unions. Not the Roos. It's always the Unions here. I'm sorry if I inadvertently sent you one the other day. I usually follow Craig's advice and am very careful with what I open.
John Evans,
Our London staff have told us how cold it has been in the UK. Lots of snow too.
We're back up to 34 degrees celcius on Sunday and the temperature will climb steadily throughout February. I always warn visitors not to visit in February if they don't like the heat. Marble Bar has our temperatures for their winter season. Summer's a killer up there!
Johnny,
Lovely funnies today, thank you. My friends thank you too!
Marilyn Noall (née Shooter) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 03:26:00 (UTC)
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Doron,
The likes of McAfee and Symantec/Norton would like you to believe that their software is all you need to defend yourself. However, if that was the case we wouldn't have these outbreaks. The fact is that the most effective anti-virus software comes pre-installed in every human being -- it's called your brain. I used to have anti-virus software installed on my computer for a brief period, but I haven't for years and I have never been infected in nine years of being on the Internet.
Placing all of your trust in your tools (whether it's software, a car, an aeroplane, or the like) without the commensurate knowledge to back it up is a dangerous thing.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Friday, January 30, 2004 at 03:07:46 (UTC)
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Also everone, i don't get it. If you have mcafee or norton, surely the virus thingy is moot.........or not?
Doron
Doron Grill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 23:29:35 (UTC)
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Doug,
wile you'r abowt it, try finding a speling prograam. That way your reCearch will trewly help you. lol
cheers,
Doron.
Doron Grill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 23:27:18 (UTC)
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Doug,
Another good site for software downloads for both PC and Mac is: www.tucows.com.
A search for "crossword solve" returns 74 programs that are "Rated" by the site.
Regards
John Pringle [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Atlanta, Georgia, United States
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 22:25:23 (UTC)
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Doug,
Thanks, and you're welcome.
Download.com is a good place to find software. A search on their site for the words "crossword solve" yields eight possibilities. A search for "anagram" yields nine results.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 21:37:16 (UTC)
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Craig
Thanks once again for all your efforts on our behalfs. I would like to ask a non-germane question of you or anybody who is a crossword fan.
I have been using wordperfect 6 on an obsolete computer just for solving crosswords. If you press Ctr F2 then L for lookup in has a word search program. If you know 2 or 3 letter in a word you fill them in, inserting question marks (?) for the letters you don't know. Wordperfect then searches thru the dictionary and up pop all the possible matches. Frans calls it crooking. I call it recearching.
Now the obsolete is kaput and I am stuck! I bought an encarta 2004 premium suite for my P4 but am dissappointed to find that it has no word search facility. Can any kind person recommend a program that is good for word searching to solve crosswords. If it can also give all the variants of an anagram that would be even better.
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 19:48:06 (UTC)
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I have just realised that I am posting this at the end of the month, so I will respost it at the beginning of next month too.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 18:27:36 (UTC)
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AN IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT KEEPING THE E-MAIL ADDRESS IN YOUR NAMES DIRECTORY ENTRY CURRENT
Summary:- Please keep the e-mail address in your entry current.
- Please keep a record of your GNR user ID and password.
- Please use the password-recovery form to have your user ID and password sent to you if you have lost it before your cancel your current e-mail address.
Most members maintain their Names Directory entry with little or no fuss and little or no help from me, and for that I thank you. I am glad that people care enough about the GNR to keep their contact information on the site current.
However, I have been receiving a steady stream of requests these days from people asking me to update the e-mail address in their entry. My first response is always to tell people that they can do it themselves by logging into their entry at http://www.greatnorthroad.org/names/edit.php. Additionally I add that, if you have forgotten your user ID and/or password, you can have them sent to the e-mail address currently in your entry by entering that e-mail address into the password-recovery form at http://www.greatnorthroad.org/names/lost_password.php. Obviously you need to enter the e-mail address that is known to the Directory; if you enter any other address, the form will respond by saying that it has no record of that address, so it can't send your user ID and password to you because it doesn't know which ones to send you and, besides, even if it could magically guess which ones you wanted, it doesn't know that you are authorised to have them.
For those that might wonder why I can't just do it for you and so save you the hassle, please take a look at the number of members in the top, right-hand corner of this page. As I write this is stands at 1374. Is it reasonable that I ask you to maintain your own entry, or is it reasonable that I have to maintain 1374 entries? Members who have been around long enough will remember the time when I did do it all myself before the automated log-in system was put in place (when we only had a couple of hundred members), and they will also remember that I was so far behind that the Names Directory was useless.
The problem comes when people cancel the e-mail address that is in their Directory entry before updating their entry with their new address. The people I usually hear from have forgotten their user ID and/or password, therefore, they can't log in. However, because they have already cancelled their old e-mail address that is in the Names Directory, the password-recovery form is useless to them as they will never see the log-in information it sends to their old address and it doesn't recognise their new address.
This is where I have to take a risk that the person sending me an e-mail message with their tale of woe really is who they say they are, and not some Nigerian trying to take over an existing member's entry for the purpose of spamming the GNR. (That's only one example of what could be happening and why.) However, I don't take their word for it immediately; as it says at the bottom of the Names Directory page, "If you neglect to [have your user ID and password sent to you before you cancel your old e-mail address] you will have to go through a very annoying (to you) process to prove to us that you really are who you say you are." This involves the exchange of several e-mail messages where I appear to be rather stupid because I am asking strange questions repetitively, especially if you don't answer them the first time I ask; the process is annoying to me too, actually, so don't think for a minute that I enjoy running you through the wringer.
In the past this has usually gone well; I have updated the member's entry and he or she is reinstated as an active member with a working e-mail address and so can log in to post on the message board. However, sometimes (and more often recently) some people have apparently become annoyed (I did warn you) at the process and given up. Then I don't hear from them, and I am not going to chase after them and beg them to complete the process; after all, I have another 1373 members to worry about. Then a month later they try again, chiding me by telling me they tried a month ago to do this, as if the whole thing is my fault. However, at that point I have to begin the process again, and a couple of people have partially completed the process more than once before disappearing yet again. In fact, there are a handful of you still out there in limbo in this process.
I hope that explains how the system works. It's much the same on any other membership site that you or I belong to, so it's not as if we are asking too much on this site for you to keep a record of your user ID and password somewhere where you will be able to access it so that you can maintain your membership on the GNR.
If you have any questions or concerns about this, please post them here so that we can all benefit from any discussion that arises. Thanks.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 18:19:32 (UTC)
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Marilyn/ Jane (Madam Donna!)
Just to confirm my rooinek tendencies I will update you folk from sunnier climes about our weather!
Chester has missed (again) the worst of the alledged big freeze. It snowed for about 30 minutes yesterday and then froze, leaving the roads a bit tricky to drive on. Today its like a spring day with the sun belting down and a temperature just above freezing. They promised us -15degrees!
My daughter is in Newcastle and the northeast, along with Scotland, bore the brunt of this Arctic weather. She reports loads of snow and very worried looking brass monkeys!
John Evans [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Chester, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 13:23:04 (UTC)
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Just FYI, every single one of the viruses that my computer has received have originated in Australia. Don't know what that means but just thought I would mention it.
Perhaps the Roos have revolted in support of the Penguins? :)
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 12:51:04 (UTC)
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Rick,
Thanks for that. Please everyone heed Rick's advice and check your computers. I have been bombarded myself over the last few days by dozens of these messages, all to my greatnorthroad.org and northernrhodesia.org addresses. Because I use these addresses only for GNR business, it's quite likely that the sources in my case are GNR members. I know for a fact that a couple of the sources are in the UK and Australia, two of the places with the most GNR members.
However, it's also possible that the sources are e-mail contacts of GNR members who have nothing to do with the GNR. I can't stress enough how important it is that, when you are sending e-mail messages to multiple recipients, you put all of the recipients in the "Bcc" field. That way you are not contributing to the spread of these viruses and worms by feeding them with fresh e-mail addresses, as happens when you send a message to a whole bunch of people and put all of their e-mail addresses in the "To" or "Cc" fields where the worm can see them and exploit them.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 07:33:24 (UTC)
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John Evans,
I hope it continues to snow your end. Loved those little stories.
I see we were all really good, careful drivers in the North. Lucky most of us had friends in the then police force!
Bob Gillies.
There was a Holdsworth Chemist in Kitwe, it was right next to Star Jewllers.
Marilyn Noall (née Shooter) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 03:40:57 (UTC)
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More on the MyDoom / NovaReg worm.
The worm is not relatively benign just because it doesn't trash your hard disk. The main aim of the worm is to take your machine over so it can be controlled remotely by spammers. Or worse.
See here for more details on the spam dimension:
MyDoom article.
The mail server I look after at work has intercepted dozens and dozens of infected mails over the past couple of days.
For more details on the virus itself, and a virus removal tool, try here:
Virus description.
Downloadable removal tool
Download the removal tool.
Battered penguins do not have a lot to do with this one Linda. :-)
Rick Rosewarne [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Edinburgh, Scotland
Thursday, January 29, 2004 at 02:19:36 (UTC)
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Just in case there is still penguins on people's minds...
On this address you can send those wingless birds 512 feet with one hit.
http://games.apropo.ro/penguin-modified.html
Douglas Borland [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 20:27:31 (UTC)
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Jane,
Just noticed your reference to Mita Hills and I presume this is the same area maintained for damming the water for Kabwe Mine power supply. Sometime in the early 70's I had the privilege to camp at Mita Hills with John Hunt, who was the NCCM man in charge of the dam. The necessary luxuries on such a trip was 1 Cold box full of Castles and bbq food. That night we had over 1 million mosquitoes for company. John had a brother called Des who I met quite a few years later in Kabwe, I went fishing in the dambo there on a farm that I think Des owned or managed.
Does anybody else remember John or Des Hunt?
David Hoyle [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Muscat, Oman
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 19:14:20 (UTC)
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John, Peter, Denise and Norman.
Thank you for your emails re Zambian Banknotes and I trust that you have found my replies of help. I only collect banknotes and my knowledge is therefore restricted to these i.e. I am not experienced to give advice re coins or stamps.
On the question of selling Zambian notes, coins or stamps, I would say that items from ex colonies around the world will probably have the biggest interest in the "Mother or home country". This is obviously a major problem if you are sat in the Yukon holding a very rare Zambian item.
Although auction sites might seem tempting I would suggest finding a dealer in your area and asking him for a valuation. If you are trying to sell a banknote I am always available to give you a second opinion/valuation as I do maintain the latest world catalogues and prices.
The most important single factor in evaluating a note is establishing its condition. i.e whether it is Good, Very Fine or Uncirculated and I will be more than happy to expand on these definitions if it of interest to any GNR member.
David Hoyle [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Muscat, Oman
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 18:40:12 (UTC)
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John Evans,
How long is this big freeze going to last?
Madam Donna
Jane Todd (née Zwanenburg, formerly Bye, Kelly) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Shatti Al Qurm, Muscat, Oman
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 17:14:09 (UTC)
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Mark Donkin, Bruce Nixon
Best wishes on your birthday
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 15:54:10 (UTC)
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John & Hartley, Thanks for recalling details of the prang. With memories like ours we should all have been coppers. I will tell Ross to log on and he can see his ex still owes me. John, my buzz bike was a 49cc Philips Gadabout, I have never seen one since. After that one I had a Maserati 125 and sold it to Bruce Harvey later for 50 bucks. I wonder where it is. There were only 3 imported into Zambia and I think Jeff Stepny (Clayface) had one but wrote it off hitting an Anglia. I still have a bike, now an AJS500 single 1964 with 2061 miles on the clock, that one I am keeping!
David, I worked at Holdsworth Lusaka in 65/66 but did not know a Len Willis. I moved to Kitwe in 1968 and don't recall a Holdsworths there. But there was a Ken Reynel who worked at Holdsworths Broken Hill in 65/66 and he became a customer of mine here a few years ago until he passed away suddenly in 2002 from a heart attack. He was a quiet spoken guy and was busy revamping a Cortina Mk1 and had a Capri in good nick. He had bought a pub called Sundowners here which got very popular while he ran it but he was running the perspex and fibreglass bath factory here as well, long long hours and all the smoke in the pub and the social side must have taken a toll on him. Anyone out there who knew him from Broken Hill?
Bob Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Springs, Gauteng, South Africa
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 15:21:52 (UTC)
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Its snowing and I'm bored...... some funnies to prove idiocy isn't an African monopoly!
Commenting on a complaint from a Mr Arthur Purdey about a large gas bill, a spokesman for North West Gas said, "We agree it was rather high for the time of year. It's possible Mr Purdey has been charged for the gas used up during the explosion that destroyed his house." (The Daily Telegraph)
Police reveal that a woman arrested for shoplifting had a whole salami in her knickers. When asked why, she said it was because she was missing her Italian boyfriend. (The Manchester Evening News)
Irish police are being handicapped in a search for a stolen van, because they cannot issue a description. It's a Special Branch vehicle and they don't want the public to know what it looks like. (The Guardian)
A young girl who was blown out to sea on a set of inflatable teeth was rescued by a man on an inflatable lobster. A coastguard spokesman commented, "This sort of thing is all too common". (The Times)
At the height of the gale, the harbourmaster radioed a coastguard on the spot and asked him to estimate the wind speed. He replied he was sorry, but he didn't have a gauge. However, if it was any help, the wind had just blown his Land Rover off the cliff. (Aberdeen Evening Express)
Mrs Irene Graham of Thorpe Avenue, Boscombe, delighted the audience with her reminiscence of the German prisoner of war who was sent each week to do her garden. He was repatriated at the end of 1945, she recalled "He'd always seemed a nice friendly chap, but when the crocuses came up in the middle of our lawn in February 1946, they spelt out "Heil Hitler."
(Bournemouth Evening Echo)
John Evans [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Chester, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 14:28:09 (UTC)
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Hartley,
Yes. The Fiat 500 was pranged as we turned off Gt East Road into Cecil Rhodes Drive and I was sitting in the back watching this pair of headlights speeding towards me! Apart from hysterics from the driver - Pip (thanks Bob). I didn't remember too much about the aftermath apart from us driving away.
By coincidence, the police were on the scene in seconds because they had been called out to another accident further out on the GER! After seeing there were no injuries, they buzzed off to the other accident.
Bob,
I remember (with some dread) Pip insisting that you had allowed her to drive the Flea. Ater a few yards, it was apparent that driving was something of a mystery to her! The front passenger seat had been taken out and reversed so the 3 passengers could confer on the clues. Probably why Chris couldn't see how erratically we were being propelled down the road!
As you say, happy, very irresponsible days!
John Evans [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Chester, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 13:18:43 (UTC)
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I guess you are all aware of the latest worm virus that is spreading like wildfire? The name of the worm is Novarg if you need to know that. Apparently it is one of those that gets to your address book and starts working through it. It is not destructive. It just goes to lots of places. If you were running a mail server, it could be a disruptive nuisance as that is all it does.
Go to http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/enterprise.htm and click on Virus Alert for more details.
This is not a link. You have to type it in.
(I heard a rumour it was started by a battered penguin... grin)
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 12:34:26 (UTC)
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Bob Gillies
Does the name Len Willis of Holdsworths in Kitwe ring a bell and if so do you know where he is now. I heard that he had moved to Durban but none of the Willises listed in the phone book knew anything about him.
Cheers
David Gray [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
South Africa
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 11:50:12 (UTC)
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Aw come on Philip you can't let 1000 viewers of this site sit with half a story, how can a man get divorced by using the GNR ? unless his wife caught him E mailing some other dolly with words of endearment, but whatever we all want to know we are all nosey b----ers. Johnny.
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Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 11:12:15 (UTC)
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Linda
You were almost right, they were the "French Hell Drivers". I have found one photo so far but I am sure there were more. Will see if I can find them later today.
Hartley
Hartley Heaton [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Binfield, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 09:25:19 (UTC)
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Hi all
Just a quick note to let you all know I am still around but going through a rough patch at the moment.
I recon that I may have set a new first for the GNR. I don't know if anyone else has got divorced because of it.
As soon as my life is back on line " I'll be back "(Said like Arnie)
Take care all
Cheers
Philip Pain [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Eshowe, Kwazulu Natal, South Africa
Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 04:57:53 (UTC)
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I have just returned from 3 wonderful, warm, weeks in Lanzarote, (you can just about avoid the tattooed unwashed) and to my delight met two enterprizing Zambian gentlemen (from Lusaka), selling curios on the beach. Being a soft touch, of course, I bought yet another wooden giraffe for my menagerie, but I took my hat off to these guys, they work all night in a fish factory in Arrecife, and then get the bus down to Puerto del Carmen, and flog wooden carvings on the beaches. We shared a beer and reminsced awhile, took me back! Ciao, Megz
Meg Rybicki (formerly Margaret) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Mullanyduff, Co Leitrim, Ireland
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 21:43:34 (UTC)
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Bob
Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the accident happen on the Great East Road at the bottom of Cecil Rhodes drive. If my memory serves me correctly the Merc had to be towed away whilst your car was still drivable.
Hartley
Hartley Heaton [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Binfield, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 16:57:52 (UTC)
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John Evans, Thanks for confirming that was Rob Hendry in the photo. We used to go to his house often and swim in the pool. His mum made the best apple pie!
I kept friends with Rob right through his Salisbury and Durban days seeing him regularly, he was my mum's favourite and used to go the my folks house in Salisbury in the 70's to see them while I was still in Zambia. He is in Australia now and we are still in contact. As regards that car prang. It was my Fiat 500 that was involved. It was a youth club rally I think from the Church up opposite Stewart Park. I had helped to organise it so could not take part. I lent the fiat to Chris Midgelow and Ross's chick at the time was Pip Bessant. She went with Chris and later asked to drive, Chris asked her if I used to let her drive and she said yes! Apparently she put one indicator on and turned the other way and a car (was it an old black merc) whacked the side of the fiat.Lucky there were no injuries Anyway Chris came back most upset and Pip being Ross,s bit had the opinion she did not have to pay for the damage! I got it fixed as best I could with no money and traded it in on an old (about 1961) MG Midget that was in a car lot opposite the 20th Cinema. Pip went on to be Roy Mayoss's girl and I think she may still be in Lusaka. She was quite a dish when Ross took her out, he had met her at The Glee Club at Lusaka Theatre Club where we used to help with lights and curtains, some memories!!
Bob Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Springs, Gauteng, South Africa
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 16:17:10 (UTC)
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Helen
Glad to see that you have the link. Only just caught up with the message board, been in SA since the end of December.
Linda
I don't think you are too far out with the name of the group that did the two wheel driving. If I remember correctly they were French. Towards the end of last year I was going through a collection of slides and there are a number of photos of the team taken at the Lusaka Showgrounds. If I have time this evening I will try and find them, scan them and put them on the net.
This brings me on to 'the slides'. They were taken by my dad and once the family has been removed I will be left with a number of photos from around Lusaka that include the decorations put up in October 1964. Nearly 40 years ago.
Heather
I understand what you said about your decisions for staying in Zambia and sometimes wonder what would have happened if we had not left. I do believe that if you have the aptitude you can make a success of your life where ever you are, it is just more difficult in some places than others. I am sure that your sucess has been more down to you than Zambia.
I for one miss Africa and Sue is no different. We were driving along a road in SA last week and Sue said something to the effect that every time we leave we miss something which is just Africa. Is it the style of road, the bush, the people, the trucks that get in your way or the taxis that cut you up without hesitation. I don't know but there is something that will draw me back until my dying day. I for one don't think that this thing I call 'Africa' is different in any of the countries south of the Sahara and I have visited most.
We have made a success of our life in the UK but I have never really felt 'at home' here. We are lucky that we are also able to get away whenever we want but in general we migrate back to Africa, 4 times last year, and made the decision early last year to establish a more permanent link by buying a house in South Africa.
Ali
I was tempted to also purchase a Ferrari, http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page4.do?dau22.oid=3892&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=17&ctx1=UK&crc=1186406248.
Hartley
Hartley Heaton [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Binfield, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 11:27:55 (UTC)
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Good morning campers I have sent this off to a few of my friends but I think it is worth sharing with you all and please smile.
Twee boere ry in 'n bakkie in die yellow lane..........simple dronk.
'N swart speedcop trek hulle af ne vra " Excuse me sir but do u know
that the yellow line is for buses only?"
Een van die boere se toe "Ja we know, I am Baas Piet en this is Baas
Koos!
Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 08:54:15 (UTC)
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Eric Pitt, Jean Anderson
Best wishes on your birthday
HELEN D'CRUZ
The Fusco's number is ringing continuously with no answer. And I haven't yet got around to phoning Kiran.
AN INTERESTING TIP
I don't know how many of you ever need to use 3.5 inch discs, but here we use them faily often for transferring information from computers in the office to our computers at home or vice versa. Last night, my daughter had done some homework on one of the computers in my office and copied it onto a disc. When we got home, the disc would not work. My neighbour gave me a tip - put the disc in the freezer for two minutes and then put it into your computer - you will be able to retrieve the data. But only this once - after that the disc is kaput.
It worked.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 06:26:01 (UTC)
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And a "Stompie" is a cigarette butt, what a laugh.
Regards
Rob.
Robert Worrill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Christchurch, New Zealand
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 03:35:44 (UTC)
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John Evans:
Thanks for finding the link to the Lusaka Convent Photos! I appreciate it very much.
Helen D'Cruz
Helen D'Cruz [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Temecula, California, United States
Tuesday, January 27, 2004 at 03:34:08 (UTC)
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Arthur
Thanks for the pictures! Great as usual. Also the link to Peter Bennets site. That chap is realy having the adventure of a lifetime. Fantastic! He actualy returns to the house where he was born in Uganda. Winston Churchill called Uganda the 'Pearl of Africa'. Those were the days!
Beth
Your photos of Chirupula and others at Mkushi are very interesting. Please fill us in on who the other people are and what is happening. I have visited 'Stonehenge' but only after the old boy was dead, and I have read his biography 'Jungle Pathfinder'. I found the place heavy with a kind of sad nostalgia as you could see the efforts that Chirupula had put in to try and develop the place, which was being reclaimed by the bush.
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 19:59:22 (UTC)
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Helen Da Cruz
Hartley' photos were posted on a separate website which was linked from the message board.
I think it was //www.isilwana.net/zambiatrip/
Good luck
John Evans [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Chester, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 17:41:49 (UTC)
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Bob Gillies
Yes it was Rob. He lived opposite Woodlands School and they had a swimming pool. Happy times jumping off their roof into the shallow end!
Talking of pals, we used to have other mutual friends, but I can't remember whether it was Peter Wincell/ Sean Casey (big game hunters pellet gun style) or through Gilbert Rennie friends. At that time, you had that angry wasp of a moped and you always seemed to be stopped by the cops so they could check if you were old enough to ride it!
Do you remember the youth club car rally when you borrowed Ross's car. I can still see the look on the other driver's face as he sailed into the side of us! Ross's girlfriend was driving at the time as I remember.
John Evans [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Chester, Cheshire, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 17:36:31 (UTC)
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The other clown in the Boswell Circus was called stompie.The other Circus was the Wilkie Circus.
Garry the pool we used to swim in was opposite the pump station.
Pappy Papier [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 16:48:44 (UTC)
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John Evans, Re your photo max rush class. The tall guy at the back looks like it could have been my pal Rob Hendry He was tall, fair and wore glasses. Can anyone confirm.
Bob Gillies [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Springs, Gauteng, South Africa
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 15:52:33 (UTC)
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This message is for Hartley or anyone who remembers the wonderful photos he took of Lusaka Convent:
I searched the December and November 2003 archived messages to view the Convent photos. I can't seem to be able to locate them! Please help! I was sure it was in the December archives. Please, Hartley, could you tell me what date in Dec. it was that you sent the photos.
Heather:
Were you able to get in touch with the Fuscos or Kiran Ranchod? I appreciate all that you're doing.
Helen D'Cruz [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Temecula, California, United States
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 14:08:46 (UTC)
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Peter Cornelius, Roderick Riordon, Gerald Sarson, Quintin D'elboux
Best wishes on your birthday yesterday
Paul Cowie, Karen Trout, Katherine Williams, Robert Mattsson
Best wishes on your birhtday today
CRAIG
No, you are wrong - we ran into him at Bridge Camp on the way up to Tundwe.
PETER BROMWICH
I am going up to the Copperbelt next week and have sent an email to the address on the web page telling them that I would like to meet with them and to see what they are doing/have done. When I've checked them out, I shall report back.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 13:00:04 (UTC)
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Dear All
At long last I have time to read and write to the gnr site. We have been really busy with our move here to Maastricht
All my belongings are still in storage, otherwise I would have been able to send a photo to the site of the clown tickey and his spanish partner, it is a photo of Anne Leverington myself and Lesley Hargrieves (I think) when I have moved into my house I will see if I can find it.
We are in a flat at the moment in the middle of Maasticht, and it is approaching Carnavel time, here in Limburg they close the cities for 3 days and it is party time. We will have a great view this year as the procession will be going past our flat. So we are looking forward to that.
I have also been in touch with Gordon Rossiter he used to live in Mufulira. Many a young lady was charmed by him. He is a lurker and not a writer, so by doing this I hope that he comes out of his shell.
Well folks I will end now, keep happy and enjoy the gnr for what it is.
Bye for now
Love Wilma
Wilma Wall (née Henry) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Almelo, Netherlands
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 12:05:55 (UTC)
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Yes it was Tickie, I remember him to, and there was more clowns. A tickie is a 3d piece is it not?
I also remember the Luna Park (Hurricanes) and the Harlem Globe Trotters and the Coon Carnival, and the touring party from the East German Republic who came on a convoy of trucks to our Kansenji Primary School and made bowls out of discs of stainless steel and gave us flags and showed us things I had never seen before. Lord Mountbatten in the Ndola park and the Ndola Industries Show (coloured chickens), the Army Marching Bands and many other things that people over here cannot relate to and have no knowledge of at all.
Regards Robert.
Robert Worrill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Christchurch, New Zealand
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 09:40:34 (UTC)
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Hi Arthur,
Robert is right. This was Boswells' Circus and they used to erect their big tent on the spare ground in Nkana that later became the agricultural show ground. I believe that one of the clowns was called "Tickie"
Regards, Mike
Mike Wilson [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Dawlish, Devon, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 07:29:19 (UTC)
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Thanks Johnny...
Having a nice quiet day..34degs under the shade of a coolabah tree........going to the skyworks later on......
Ali
Ali Key [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Australia
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 06:51:04 (UTC)
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To all our comrades living in Australia have a very happy Australian Day and that includes any Aussies that deign to read our board from all the Gnr members.
Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 06:27:08 (UTC)
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.............hello there.......
Bledy penguins have invaded my household now........hmmmph
Ali Key [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Australia
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 05:22:04 (UTC)
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Bill Hunt,
No, not really any help. We were all adopted away from our family when we were kids. We have found my sister (living in South Africa) but cannot find any trace of the brothers.
Hoping to find someone that knew the French family and what might have become of them.
Glenda Housley (née Bays, formerly Zeeman) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Decatur, Alabama, United States
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 03:58:06 (UTC)
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Hello All,
In reply to the circus question, I remember that there were two troupes that toured Zambia from R.S.A. called something like :
"Wilkeys" and "Boswells"
I think.
Regards Robert
Robert Worrill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Christchurch, New Zealand
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 03:29:13 (UTC)
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Cathrine Nelson
I never managed to get to Livingstone but now, thanks to your lyrical descriptions, I feel as if I just visited. A piece beautifully done deserving a round of applause.
Arty and all the contributors, another load of really interesting photos... thank you.
Sue Coughlan (née Forde) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, WA, Australia
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 01:43:13 (UTC)
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Dear Headmaster Steevens:
I apologise for leading others astray, but the Johnny Man made me do it, honest! I shall present myself first thing in the morning. Your cane or mine?
Your naughty student
Bird Brain Dore
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 01:34:39 (UTC)
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Hilton Williams
I nearly forgot
Your soapbox driving licence !
Arthur
Arthur Steevens [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Stockport, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 00:27:58 (UTC)
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Yesterday I knew I had well and truly left behind Livingstone after my visit there in the last days of December 2003. I drove past a now empty lot a few blocks down my street here in Washington DC where, the last time I had looked, a huge, lovely early 20th century home had stood and recently sold for, I imagine, a couple of million dollars. Soon an even larger, more luxurious house will be built on this site following a trend now common in the inner reaches of this nation’s capital.
What struck me most of all on my visit to Livingstone, the place I called home for about 6 years, was that little had been torn down and replaced. Some things had gently crumbled away, some minor things had been taken down, but most seems to have been used, benignly neglected, or when absolutely necessary, fixed in the least aggressive manner. It is like an aging body under the care of an old fashioned country doctor with few resources but the firm resolve to adhere to the spirit of the Hippocratic Oath to first do no harm.
It would be narcissistic to say nothing has happened since I rolled out of town in a Morris Traveler 33 years ago. Down by the Falls much has been rearranged and my first thought was that someone had been messing with my mind; even the roads seem to be in different places. But all was well when I gazed at the Falls and realized nothing really can be done to alter that view. With my back to the couple of fabulous movie star type hotels, and the roar of the Falls in front of me, I no longer cared what had happened to the old trails through the bush, the rough roads to the gorges, and the little rondavel we called home in 1952. By guesstimating the distance from the lip of the Falls to the bend in the river and a little beach we’d lolled about on as teenagers, I think I even figured out where the old Vic Falls Restaurant had stood.
I never did get over to the Zimbabwean side which I understand became the tourist Mecca for the Falls when Zambia was out of favour. And I have never made it to Niagara. But if you haven’t been back for most of your adult life, never fear, they have not Americanized, Disneyfied, made safe, or done anything foolish to ‘our’ side of the river. You want to jump in? Go ahead! There are no sissy barriers to stop you. A new, little bridge has replaced the swinging wooden thing in front of the Falls, and for that I am grateful.
I spent only one day exploring Livingstone. I have read a little science fiction and now found myself the subject of an experiment in interplanetary time travel. I felt I was in a parallel universe close to but different from the one I’d left 33 years earlier. It was Livingstone but it was not. Like the aftermath of a neutron-type bomb the physical objects were almost all the same but the details had changed, their atoms rearranged and almost everything had received a little nudge in another direction, even if it was simply that it had not been painted in all that time. But by the end of the day I felt back in my own skin and ready to move back home and settle down!
Dear old Hillcrest High is well used, well attended and still very recognizable. Classrooms have been added and many wide open spaces have been filled. The athletic fields are still there and that sacred, slightly sunken square between the boys and girls hostels remains. Bless their hearts for not renaming the Rabb Hall although I am sure not a sole remembers Ann Rabb’s dad for whom it is named. The bones of the pool now lie dry, like the useless old elephant carcass we saw in Chobe a few days later. I’m sure it has been out of commission for years, if not decades. The Tuck Shop, that place out of site to Ada Warner but public enough to ensure that no boy or girl got up to anything more awful than a little hand holding, still stands. It appears locked and defunct but looks sturdy and ready to stand another 40 years. I had in tow my ever-patient daughter and Muzeya, the delightful, kind and also patient driver who carted us round town. It was a typical, hot December day and I could see that hanging out here too long would have bored them silly, so we drove off, through the gates, to see where I had lived, a few doors down from the school.
Finding my house was easy! The trees in the front garden have been rearranged and the sandy driveway seems sandier. I waved to the present occupants.
I kept seeing the houses of old friends and yelling out their long-forgotten but now remembered names to Meg and Muzeya. Next time I will take all day and walk these streets and stand like a dilly old duck gazing at the houses and recollecting friends, afternoons of fun, and hours of hanging around. It’s good to know it is all there and all I need is money and time to revisit.
I was surprised that the place of greatest delight to me turned out to be St. Andrew’s Anglican Church. As a border and a day scholar I spent most Sunday mornings in a back pew. Above the altar there remains the long, slim stained glass window. I always thought it was the loveliest work of art I would ever see. And I might be right! A benign, intelligent Jesus stands tall and kindly above a magnificent, full flowing Victoria Falls. In my adult life I have seen much of the world’s great art and many of Europe’s loveliest cathedrals but, dear reader, there is no piece as sweet as this single stained glass window!
It was Saturday and the Mothers Union was meeting. We accepted the invitation to stay for a service with 12 other woman. It’s hard not to sound sentimental about the a capella singing, the harmonizing and the joy these women generated.
Livingstone is a small town of about 150,000. I suppose the national statistics are true here too and the literacy rate is around 78% and average life expectancy around 37 years. I forget the staggering AIDS rate. Our stay was brief and all I have are impressions from one day of wandering around town. It is not a busy town, there are few if any old folk, the people are handsome, slim, and dressed well enough. I was ready for disease and rags, but saw none of that. English seems to be understood by everyone and kindness and helpfulness abounds. The town reminded me of a hand me down article of clothing, taken care of to the best of the recipient’s ability, well worn in the busy places, and fixed as needed.
The steps of the Capital seems to be the gathering place for loud, but good- humoured teenagers even though the projector inside had not worked for a few months. The Post Office is eerily the same as it ever was and the two banks continue to command respect. The shops along the main road now reflect the needs and income of the local population and the Excelsior, Oza’s, and the other shops are no more. The shop buildings remain but the contents are now meager and repetitive. I found an aged Mr. Patel who had been a shopkeeper since the 1950s but since he had moved from a shop on the back street to the main street, I don’t think we remembered each other, nice as that would have been. I think we saw one of the legendary ex-Zimbabwean farmers the Zambians have invited to farm commercially in the area.
Returning to Livingstone was in great part thanks to people posting on GNR, and especially to a few old friends that I never thought I’d find again and who have become occasional or frequent email buddies. Thank you, dear friends, known and unknown!
Cathrine Nelson [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Washington, DC, United States
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 00:21:29 (UTC)
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Northerners !
Something to get us back on the Great North Road
I was pleased to see Peter Bennett's Journal has been updated recently. Peter, if you drop in to the GNR on your travels I for one am really enjoying your magnificent photos and reports as you make your way across Africa. Look forward to seeing a lot more of your photos when you return to the UK.
Beth Lloyd brought along these photos for me when I was over at the Livingstone Lark in September.
Thanks Beth - I increased the resolution on the scans and was suprised at the detail in the photos.
Please drop me a line and I'll post the originals back to you.
Neville Cowan
I used to live at the second last house on Central Street at one time. I have seen an article or two in the Rhokana Reviews on the farm across the river. I will keep looking and post some up for you.
In the meantime I saw this photo, maybe it will bring back a memory or two.
Heather Knowles
I will drop you a line later this week re the scanning. Keep up the good work !
Birdbrain addicts
Waddle along to the headmasters office please.
Arthur
Hi Arthur,
A challenge by Bob Allan In Melbourne, a Drivers licence earlier than 1965.
Here's mine, please post at your convenience, BUT I have a licence to race a soap box on a public road in 1955.attach photo of my first drive!!
regards
Hilton Williams
Arty can you put this on for Bob Allan
Bob this one is a little older.
Arthur
Over Christmas whilst at home I was having a little root-around and came across a torn off piece of blue card to which I had stuck the receipts of each year that I played for the works Rugby team whilst undertaking an apprenticeship.
Turning the card over I was pleasantly surprised that it had been the front cover of an old exercise school notebook. I have attached and should you believe it may be of interest to remind the GNR members who attended school in those days of good school times and times too when one was in for it then please add to the GNR!
Kind regards
Bob Eglington
Finally overcome the technology and scanned in a couple of photos from school. (Yes it was Kabulonga School for Boys by then!)
The first is Max Rush’s class in 1967. Any ideas who is who? Note the sliding wall behind the group. Fantastic bit of architecture in the hot season!
The second is the Debating Society started by Doug (Bug) Phillips a Canadian whose father was advising the government. It was sparsely attended, mainly by Doug’s friends and family and by those guys whose bus home was later in the afternoon. Although there, very few boarders ever attended!
John Evans
Hi Arthur,
Someone during the month mentioned a circus. Here are a couple of photos taken during a circus performance in the 1960s. No flash was allowed and the light level was very low so the development of the film had to be forced.
The juggler was doing five things at the same time!
Regards,
Mike Wilson
Mike - what was the name of the circus, do you remember ?
Thanks to everyone sending stuff in.
Arthur
Arthur Steevens [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Stockport, United Kingdom
Monday, January 26, 2004 at 00:17:38 (UTC)
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Neville Cowan!!!!
I'm delighted to see U managed to find the GNR and registrer as I recommended a couple of weeks back. See I told U that folks would come back with feedback. I too remember as kids with our parents crossing the Kafue on the pontoon when we used to visit you all on (if I recall) occasional Sundays. Do U recall we used to swim in a small pool built on a small kopie in amongst some rocks - correct me if I am wrong! My memory does appear vague these days. I also remember sometimes we used to all walk to the close plot which was near your parents place. I think they had a daughter named Helen!
To my other GNR friends sorry for the silence but family/personal matters have kept me away although I have been lurking. I have not abandoned U all & I apologise if it has appeared to be so as of late! Now that things have begun to settle down for me I will have more time to devote to the GNR.
Brian Geyser - pls give me a call one evening as we need to discuss matters ...... hee hee. U know what I am referring to!!!!!!
Johnny Green - good to see U are well and keeping these youngsers occupied.
Gary (Brasso).
Gary Brassington [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Banbury Oxon, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 23:11:13 (UTC)
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Sorry about the false figures below they should of course read 323,5 and 323,4 sorry again for frightening you all .
Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 21:26:56 (UTC)
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It is impossible to run two different programs so for simplicity alone we will use the the 236 + version for which I have recieved two genuine entries one from Tinas household
236,5 and one from Lindas household 236,4, so keep thrashing them you never know maybe 400 is possible. Johnny.
Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 21:21:43 (UTC)
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He's now taking the p out of me, so he's now banned till anyone beats his score.
Neil Smith [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Sheffield, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 20:52:33 (UTC)
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Batting penguins
I managed to hit him 1215 metres.
If you go to http://www.casper.ru/temp/pingu3/?namn=422 you get the same game but with a bit more welly : ) The most I managed on the other 1 was 323 metres.
David Swan [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 20:34:26 (UTC)
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To Those Afflicted:
My other son, 16yr old Chris, wanted me to post this message to those of you hooked on the bleddy penguin basher.
"Allowing yourself to become hooked an an addictive and mind-numbing game such as this, shows others that you are weak-charactered and lead a life of insignificance. Making sure others are aware of your scores only serves to reinforce that you have little else of intelligent or intellectual content to occupy your mind."
He would have posted it himself.. only he doesn't want to take his eye off the penguin in case he misses the shot. Ha! Ha!
Alrighty then.. I'm going to tear myself away and take down the Christmas decorations. Whaaat??
Have a great week and for those who are thoroughly teed off with all this penguin nonsense, my humble apologies. You will hear no more from me... unless I beat the reigning champion, Master Smith.
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 20:16:43 (UTC)
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My son (10) scored 324 with his very first shot. I've now banned him from penguins. (till I beat it).
Neil.
Neil Smith [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Sheffield, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 19:46:20 (UTC)
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Have been away from the site for a few days whilst I move (temporarily) to London. I'm trying to help my parents move, and they have oodles of books. Some time ago reference was made to the site www.booksforzambia.com. Does anyone know if the site is kosher? I used to send books to the library on my sister's farm, but it seems the staff were raiding the library and sending the books to a second-hand book-seller in Bulawayo. I don't want to pay a fortune to send books to Luanshya only to find that someone else is reaping the rewards.
Peter Bromwich [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Valderrobres, Teruel, Spain
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 19:26:45 (UTC)
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Re Upper limits of scoring on penguination. It's hard to tell if 323.5 is the top level. It's as high as I got last night. Really you have to try for a couple more days to see if anyone can go any higher since we don't know what limits the system is set for. 323.5 would be a weird place to calibrate it to......
Johnny I forgot to copy you on my last one to Tim last night. You should be getting it about now.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 19:13:30 (UTC)
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To all penguin bashers, I am afraid that verbal claims canot be accepted in the championship, any entry for them must be accompanied by a scan or verified by a witness that we reconize on the site if you dont possess a scanner then the witness must be over 18 years of age and understand the penalty for perjury, happy bashing Johnny.
Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 18:18:18 (UTC)
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Glenda Housley
I played soccer with a "Dendy" Zeeman in the early 50s.
I think he was at school in Ndola at the time.
He married Barbra Bennet.
Sadly I saw his death notice in the Natal Mercury about 18mths ago.
Hope this helps.
Bill Hunt [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Widenham, Natal, South Africa
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 17:43:30 (UTC)
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Jane & Doron
Thanks for the abbreviations clarification.
Linda
My problem is not penguins, it is the free cell game. It has become an addiction. I am now on game 7925. With windows 98 I had some hope of finishing as there were only 32,000 variations. Now with xp pro they have bumped this up to 1,000,000 so I have no chance. Can someone tell me how to get the animation of the card movement to work in slow motion. This sometimes happens by accident and is much more impressive that the normal speed. By the way Frans has matched your penguin score of 323.5. I think this must be the highest that one can get?
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 16:51:27 (UTC)
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Ferraris.....
I better come clean......my new "ferrari" is a preloved pc that has come to our household........after having one that ran on 16megs ram ,no sound and being oh so slow taking forever to download pics from the GNR..I now have this beast that downloads at a blink of an eye.......I am now looking forward to more pics etc........and sound!!!
just one problem I had was a WORM !......took 3 hours of talking turkey with the techs at bigpond to find out that was the problem........now I am racing.
Ali
Ali Key [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Australia
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 15:15:36 (UTC)
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PBA Meeting (Penguin Bashers Anonymous)
This to let you know that we are having our first online meeting at 2:30am tomorrow morning. Please try to drag yourself away from the computer for a short time so that we can join ranks to beat this addiction.. (grin)
Go on.. you know you want to give this game a try... oops sorry... I'm not helping much here, am I?
Oh, BTW, you don't actually have to click on the penguin or the batter to make them do their respective dive and bash. You can click anywhere on the screen. It is distracting, though, if you don't click on each of them as it gets your swing out of whack. (Pardon the pun). I like to keep my eye on the ball.. I mean penguin... so I can swing at the right time. And don't bother trying to find "cheats" that make the batter hit further, farther? fartherestest? I have tried every key on the keyboard.
Germane - perhaps I should jump into a croc infested river, or step into a mound of army ants to get this out of my system.
I'm off to church to pray for willpower.
Later, fellow penguinites
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 14:34:48 (UTC)
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Doug,
That reminds me By The Way that I hear that BTW has been injected into Billtong, with consequent demise of the naaitjie. I shall try to refrain from abbvs in future, but if you do look up the suggested site, here's a challange (get off that bl.. (which stands for...) penguin game, which now already has me hooked and dinner is burning in the oven..) and find out the connection between btw and vat.... (anyone? ..Do I hear someone from Amsterdam?).
Neville,
You have no idea how I simph(?) with you (Can't spell sympathize (?)..We were in our cabin at Mita Hills and in my dream there was a burning fire hitting me...The matebeles have this canny co-ordination that they all march up on you and the chief shouts 'BITE'.! and the whole lot from top to toe get you. I dipped my head into the "dirty dishes bucket', and three weeks later was still haunted by these hunters. That same weekend we were attacked by bees and all had to run into the croc infested waters and you won't believe this, we had cows grazing in our pozzie when we emerged.!!
P.S.
I won't tell the kids about the btw in the billtong!
Donna Jane
Jane Todd (née Zwanenburg, formerly Bye, Kelly) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Shatti Al Qurm, Muscat, Oman
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 13:42:38 (UTC)
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Doug,
Go here to get meanings of all abbreviations.
http://www.cknow.com/ckinfo/
then click on the letter u want
Doron Grill [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 12:16:46 (UTC)
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Tina............
The Ferrari is out of the pits and roaring.........
Ali Key [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Australia
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 11:07:33 (UTC)
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Donna Jane
What does btw mean? Maybe brandy, Tequila, Whisky? New flavours for biltong?
Cheers - Doug
Doug Grewar [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vryheid, Natal, South Africa
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 11:04:03 (UTC)
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Hi all
hey thanks for the response to the farm over the river, when my dad built the farm it was raw bush and he was the first one there at that section of the river, he built the river crossing as well. I remember the Page boys as my dad would say, would use the pontoon and leave it on the wrong side of the river, The Holtshauzen guys Richard, Donny, Werner and Jasper also had a bit of fun with it which I found out years later in SA. The Hippos used to come up at night and eat the cabbages, I remember waking up at night covered in army ants so that was fun plucking them off.
Neville
Neville Cowan [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Woodstock, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 09:08:20 (UTC)
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Bernie Horton, how can my poor little battered penguin be causing hassles between you ? is it because Denise will not leave it and come to bed?
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Johnny [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Scarborough, United Kingdom
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 07:30:30 (UTC)
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Could someonebody please take the penguin away!!!!
it's causing problems
Denise and Bernie
Denise Horton (née Wellbeloved) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 06:23:01 (UTC)
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Tim
I equalled your 323.5 but haven't been able to beat it so far.
Good luck to all penguinators. Beddy byes is calling. Hopefully there will be an astronomical score someone has set up to chase later on today.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 06:08:31 (UTC)
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Pappy
I can definitely recommend Gerard's billtong. I am hooked every time I am in Zambia. The billtong that is. (I do make my own here,just as good btw but the kids when they are here eat it as it's being made!)
I shall also be in Kitwe in March and would love to join you and Gerard for a mosi or two. I am joining the 2nd ever ladies team for the National Fishing Competition!
We are still looking for a third person.. ladies anyone?
Johnny
I dare not attempt the penguin stuff after the Alert warnings. I must prepare myself for poor lines in deepest darkest Garneton. Can't afford to get hooked on that too! Good Luck!
Donna Jane
Jane Todd (née Zwanenburg, formerly Bye, Kelly) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Shatti Al Qurm, Muscat, Oman
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 05:41:39 (UTC)
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And if you do get a higher score, print it out and scan it or otherwise save it to substantiate your claim. I have. Competition, it's the best! Good for you Tim. Watch out for flying penguins.
Tina Magee (née Wallace) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 05:30:04 (UTC)
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Johnny Green Penguin Alert!!!
Do not, and I repeat, do not go to this website address unless you want to be drawn into a totally addictive game of penguin baseball:
http://www.vickygsm.cz/public/penguin_baseball.swf
But on the off chance that you simply cannot resist, I will let you know that Tina Magee holds the reigning GNR member score of 323.4, while my 13 yr old has just smugly obtained 323.5. You have to click on the penguin and then when he dives, click on the batter.
BTW, it is not a link. You have to type it in.
You can blame Johnny Green for starting this addiction. I reckon we should string him up...
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 03:57:06 (UTC)
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Hi all,
What an active forum! Hopefully someone can help me with some information.
I'm trying to find my brothers Walter Zeeman, and Leslie Zeeman. The brothers Walter and Leslie were born in the 1950's which would make them in their 50's now.
The brothers were both adopted in the 1960's by a family surnamed French. Their adopted parents were Douglas French and Olive Avis French. Olive's maiden name was Olive Leahy or Olive Laye? The brothers were renamed Michael Walter French and Robert (Leslie?) French. Douglas French was associated with the Nkana mine at Kitwe, Zambia. We have heard that this family later moved to Australia but cannot confirm this. We have done some searching in Australia but have not been successful.
If anyone knows of this family please let me know. Thanks for any help!
Glenda Housley (née Bays, formerly Zeeman) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Decatur, Alabama, United States
Sunday, January 25, 2004 at 03:50:11 (UTC)
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Pappy,
Gerard is a member, and his Names Directory entry is here. Heather and I ran into Gerard in Tundwe (am I right Heather?) on the way to South Luangwa, from where he and a friend were coming.
Craig Hartnett [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 20:48:50 (UTC)
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Northerners:
Help a poor old lady with memory loss, please! Many moons ago, probably late 60's, myself and Bugs Da Silva (he was the one shaking and crying and kissing the ground afterwards... grin) were part of a stunt car show up at Kitwe Playing Fields. A team of stunt car drivers put on a show and asked for volunteers from the crowd to come and be in the car while it was driven up over a ramp to flip it over onto two wheels, and then driven like that all the way around the rugby field. Being the fearless maiden that I was in those days, I jumped forward and dragged Bugs with me. It was an adrenaline pumping experience for me (and a pants wetting experience for Bugs...) and gave me the same sort of rush as jumping off the cliffs at the rapids on the Muf road.
Does anyone remember the name of the stunt car group? I seem to remember they were called Hell's Drivers, or perhaps that is what Bugs was screaming hysterically all the way around the rugby field as he dug his nails into my skin. he! he!
Never mind, Bugs... I have it on good authority that you redeemed yourself eventually, and I'm still a fan of yours.
Linda Hayes (née Dore) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Austin, Texas, United States
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 18:39:17 (UTC)
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That place across the Kafue,were they the ones with the chickens,because the owns used to go on chicken raids at the weekends,after the Discos,the chickens were lekker,thanks to those concerned.some of the best chicken I ever tasted.ha!ha!
Where is Gerard Fagan,we used to hang out together,at the convent and Kitwe Boys.I hear he is the man to see for Biltong.I`ll be in Kitwe in March,so will look him up.
Pappy Papier [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 16:15:51 (UTC)
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Helloooo Peeps
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year. Ja I know, have been in"just now" mode (as all yous guys know this can take from 1 min to 6 months). Having lived in the UK for quite a while now have adopted a new saying, "Ja, yeaaah, in a minute" (this varies slightly from the above as the time limit starts at one min and extends to max 24 hours). Mind you, if one is being obstinate revert to the former!
As for the bickering, Chris Tamm - I suggest you "put a sock in it" - how long were you in Africa for? Six years was it? Apparently, this gives you the God given right to ridicule, humiliate and totally rub people up the wrong way - like a Ridgeback (it's a dog, Dear). Seriously, if you want to vent your political views on your "vast" knowledge of Africa go do it on an appropriate website.
ps: Did your brief visit to Africa enhance your career????
I rest my case -
TTFN
Gill
Gill Main [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Aberdeen, Scotland
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 14:25:22 (UTC)
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Hi June
See your request for some photos of Kitwe. I have just been doing some sorting, and will send some to Arthur to put on GNR, most of the old familiar places, Nkana Hospital, the front of Central Offices which I think was the same road as Hospital, Nkana squash club etc. and a few of town. These were taken three years ago.
I remember the place over the Kafue, went across on the pontoon, didn't people by the name of Thomas live there as well.
Denise
Denise Horton (née Wellbeloved) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 07:02:09 (UTC)
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Mark McDonald, Andy Jones, Dorothy Anderton-Shuttleworth
Best wishes on your birthday
JUNE BOHL
I shall be taking my camera with me and shall try my best although I have an enormous list of thing to do up there and not a lot of time.
Heather Chalcraft (née Bender) [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Lusaka, Zambia
Saturday, January 24, 2004 at 07:00:00 (UTC)
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HEATHER...
If you are going up to Kitwe soon, please take some pictures around the town such as Regent Avenue, the old Department Stores, the Catholic Chur |
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