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Fiona,
Hear hear!
Chris,
Yes, I took the test.
Either you can't read or are too lazy to:- It should be obvious from the site that they are based in the UK. (See FAQ #22.) Their contact information is readily available on their Web site and in various publicly-accessible databases, so I don't see why someone else should have to do your homework for you because you are too lazy to.
- Either way, how is it relevant where they are based? (See FAQ #3.) And repeating your question to me about who and where they are is pointless; I am not affiliated with them any more than I am affiliated with any other site to which I choose to publish a link.
- As to your assertion that the people who put this together are obviously left wing -- well, they even address that too. (See FAQ #1.) Apparently your response is quite predictable. Besides, to do a proper and balanced job of gauging beliefs, surely they need to ask questions that make both left- and right-leaning statements, and to gauge non-economic beliefs (the second dimension) they need to ask non-economic questions that address such issues as the ones with which you took umbrage. It obviously wouldn't be much use if you came up with all the questions for such a survey.
- And well done for concluding that various world leaders (some of who died before the Internet was even a twinkle in Al Gore's eye) did not actually take the test themselves. (See FAQ #4.) Being public figures who have stated their various beliefs publicly, even a handful of academic conservatives (never mind "academic liberals") would be able to divine how each public figure would answer the questions in the survey because they have most likely already answered them in public statements or actions. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out... or to read the answer on their Web site!
No doubt you will take from my points above that I am connected to the (in your view) left-wing fanatics at the Political Compass. Fill your boots. I simply couldn't resist pointing out your fatuous arguments. You fail to see that I am not arguing for or against coal miners, steel workers, Doug's friend Mittal, or whatever red herrings you choose to produce; I have not addressed any of those issues. All I did was provide a link to the Political Compass and you took it from there and blew it out of proportion, and I have just responded by pointing out the holes in your arguments.
Gosh, isn't it interesting that research into nuclear physics can lead to atomic bombs... "but so bloody what?"! What a moronic conclusion. It would seem your favourite professor has about as much connection to reality and the planet Earth as you claim is the case with the professors whose views you don't like.
Jilly,
Loved your story and the apparent lesson learned. :)
Craig Hartnett, Canada [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 22:55:38 (PST)
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Chris Tamm
You really are an arsehole aren't you? Why do you have to be so bloody nasty to people you don't even know? How Alix feels is her business, not yours!!! Now, go ahead, have a go at me. Do your worst because you are a bloody nothing and a waste of space.
Fiona Gayther, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 20:44:23 (UTC)
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Comments that just don't sound right somehow...
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Osama's brother Yeslam Bin Laden on Osama - "He was always more religious than the rest of us".
Tina Magee, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 20:32:56 (UTC)
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Esther if you knew nothing about the spray did you ask his secretary if it worked?
Johnny, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 20:31:40 (UTC)
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Esther
What a tongue you must have had.......!!!!! What was the spray doing in his drawer in the first place??? Talk about a tantilizing experience for your mouth!!!!
About Guy Fawkes, (or however you wish to spell it). My memories of the 5th November in Zambia are mostly bad ones. I am an avid animal lover and can only remember the pain and suffering of dogs and cats that had crackers tied to them and then ignited. Sounds unbelievable but very very true. The 6th November was always a sad day finding tortured dogs on the street, frightened and in pain. I have heard of similar stories here in South Africa but have never seen any evidence of it. I have vivid memories of many dogs that I helped while living in Bancroft. We had no vet. My father was the one that had to put many of these suffering animals out of their misery. The worst part of it was that the 6th November is my birthday. I dreaded the 6th..... !!
Desi
Desiree Van der Spuy, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 18:57:07 (UTC)
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the provocative Ms Sleutel:
RegThanks for your posting,lets hope that our beloved Zambia does become the "Bread Basket of Africa,"....with positive people like Heather, Kevin and You posting the "good News" first hand it makes up for the negative postings about Zambia that we seem to get from a certain few......
Here we have the inimitable Ms Sleutel talking about her beloved country. If your bio is anywhere near correct, you would have left your beloved country when you were a mighty 4 year old, yet talking about it as though it was a watershed moment of your life?
Get real Ali - stop the whinging and baiting, and grow up. We have heard from others here that it is apparently now possible for you (and others) to return to your beloved country. So why don't you? Why don't you check with your local travel agent about a one way ticket to Lusaka, and make your dreams come true.
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 18:45:10 (UTC)
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The school is St Peter's York, where Guy Fawkes was a pupil.
http://www.st-peters.york.sch.uk/history/guyfawkes.htm
Neil Smith, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 18:34:06 (UTC)
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Mike. Thanks for correcting me.
There is a school in York where the boys are not allowed to burn a guy on November 5th. They consider it bad form to burn an old boy.
Peter Bromwich, Spain [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 17:39:17 (UTC)
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RegThanks for your posting,lets hope that our beloved Zambia does become the "Bread Basket of Africa,"....with positive people like Heather, Kevin and You posting the "good News" first hand it makes up for the negative postings about Zambia that we seem to get from a certain few......
Ali Key, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 13:33:08 (UTC)
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Jack
The Gunpowder Plot had nothing to do with avenging the death of Mary Queen of Scots.
The conspirators were a tiny number of English Catholics who felt that King James had failed to live up to promises that he had made about relaxing anti-Catholic laws. .
It is unlikely that the Scots (as a nation) would have regarded them as heroes because if they had succeeded then James would have been killed.and he was also their own King James VI of Scotland.
Mike Slement, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 12:44:07 (UTC)
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Chris,
The rhyme you quoted was usually chanted by beggers (us too) just before Christmas and went something like this:
Christmas is coming and the geese are getting fat,
Please put a penny in an old man's hat,
If you haven't a penny, a ha'penny will do,
If you haven't a penny, then God Bless you.
Jack.
Thanks for enlightening me on the meaning of Halloween.....I really thought is was something American.....there you go, we learn something every day.
Cheers,
Maxie.
Maxie Lindenberg, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 11:46:58 (UTC)
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Reginald,
Thanks for an excellent first hand account of what is going on in Zambia. Let us hope that the scrouge of corruption is curtailed; although I have my doubts. Zambia's future lies in the Agricultural Sector.Glad progress is being made.
Glen,
No more pennies..more like a minimum of 20p..otherwise you get a nasty look!!
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 10:34:21 (UTC)
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SAVE ZAMBIA’S FUTURE FOUNDATION.
From what I have seen or read, it appears that an appeal through your website to “Save Luanshya’s Future”, has now become a foundation to “Save Zambia’s Future”.
The original idea of raising funds for projects in Luanshya, I support whole heartily and it is far more practical for the amount of donations you are likely to receive from an Internet Website appeal.
The people themselves, and their Government with the help and assistance from First World countries, in the form of loans or donations, can only save Zambia and its economy.
Yes, Zambia has a great potential, and could have a great future if we decided to move along a path of economic recovery and development without any form of corruption.
President Mwanawasa has pledged to rid Zambia of all corruption, and has been making former government ministers and officials accountable for their plunder of the economy in the past.
The Zambian Government has recently stated that owing to a “bumper” crop of maize this year in Zambia, we will be able to export maize to other African countries in the region.
We have had a large influx of good experienced farmers that have been “chased” out of Zimbabwe, together with South African farmers seeking “greener pastures.”
Although they came here with little or no money, they have been given land by our government, and it is “unbelievable” what they have managed to accomplish so far.
We visit the Mpongwe region, which is about 50 miles (80 kilometers) from Luanshya fairly frequently as my daughter lives out there, so we can see the progress going on.
This is only one small part of Zambia, and similar new agricultural developments are going on all over Zambia.
With the agricultural potential here, I would predict that Zambia could become a “bread basket” for the rest of Southern and Central Africa.
With government assistance, there is no reason why the people of Zambia should “starve” or suffer from any food shortages.
The HIV/AIDS pandemic, obviously will take its toll for some years to come. Again government assistance, sex education, and large donations of finance and drugs, will greatly assist in reducing its devastation.
Antiretroviral medicines are available here at a cost of US $ 8.00 per month, although a figure of US $ 800.00 is mentioned on the website?
The idea of an Orphanage in Luanshya is a good one, however this project will take a huge amount of money and planning.
My suggestion would be that it is built on the lines of Da Gama Home, possibly next to it, and run in a similar manner. The other venue for this project could be close to Luanshya, on a plot or farm where power and water is available.
Initially it could be built for, say, two hundred children, with provision to keep expanding when funds are available.
Using private houses for small Orphanages is not practical, and would benefit very few children.
Regards,
Reg Hughes.
Reginald Hughes, Zambia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 09:00:01 (UTC)
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Dear Keith:
Passively speaking I am me, myself and I, and unfortunately motherless after 3. I shall raise a glass for absent hecklers :)
Dear Glen:
Egads and forsooth. Wot doth thou spouteth, Willie? Desire is but a fleeting hope in the minds of merry (old) gentlemen.
Pssst! Don't let everyone know, but I actually do not drink anymore. The last drink I had was at the Banbury Bash in 2002 (just to get rid of the shyness... oops I almost typed slyness... that too.. grin) However, me (is that better grammar, Keith?) don't want to let the side down at this late juncture, so I will make the effort and can possibily be coaxed into accepting at least one. "Yo ho ho and a bottle of (Pirate's) Rum!"
Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 01:55:50 (UTC)
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My remembering and I think my brother Glen as well was. We use to get a old pair of pants a shirt. Stich the two together, fill it with news papers put a fancy head on it. Old pair of Takkies (shoes)
Put it in a Kiidie car and pull it around. Collecting pennies followed by a rime :-
Penny for the Guy,penny for the guy.
if you dont have a penny
a alf(half) penny will do
If you aint got a arf penny
God bless you.
Then if we could by crackers always crackers we go to the local Bomb fire and put him on that (the guy).
Now that was was way back when in Plymonth just after the war.(56) I think.
Hey we real oldies hey, but that's my memories of Guy Fawkes.
Chris Drake
B.C.
Canada
Christopher Drake, Canada [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 00:52:25 (UTC)
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Guy (guido) Fawkes,
The history of the gunpowder plot was all about Catholic disenchantment over their treatment after Henry VIII, Liz 1 ! etc.
After Liz died in (about 1603) they decided to have a go. As others have said Guy was the man with military (explosives) knowledge but about 20 co-conspiritors were executed in the end.
Maxi;
You might not have heard much about halloween in England but it was pretty big in Scotland when I was growing up (still is). We always went "Guising" (dressed up in goolish disguise and sing a song or two) at halloween to get some pocket money. Scots seemed to focus on 31st October where as English were more on the "penny for the Guy" aimed at 5th November. I guess we are not traditionally associated with celebrating the apprehension of the "Gunpowder" plotters as they were essentially trying to avenge the execution of our Catholic Mary Queen of Scots who was beheaded by LIZ. If they had succeeded they might well have been Scottish heros.
PS. Spanish Armada invasion was supposed to avenge beheading of Mary - singular failure!!
Apparently Scottish tradition claims Halloween is a time when witches, devils, fairies and other imps of air and earth celebrate. The idea of this either scares people, or ticks them off because they haven't been invited to the party. In the past, some believed that those born on All Hallows' Eve were granted the gift of 'double sight,' and had influence over spirits.
Linda - end of my history knowledge
Jack Wardell, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 00:48:53 (UTC)
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Jill,
When I was a young girl, we used to sing:
Here's to remember,
The fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason
Why gunpowder and treason,
Should ever be forgot.
As was traditional, we made our own guy, wheeling them in the streets in a wheelbarrow, shaking our "begging Bowl" and chanting:
Guy, Guy,
Stick him in the eye.
Hang him on a lamp post,
And leave him there to die.
The pennies collected for our efforts, would be used to purchase a few Jumping Jacks, Bangers, Cathrine Wheels and/or Sparklers. These would be let off on bombfire night on the village green, where a massive fire had been built, All of this was great fun.
Strangely enough, although I spent the first 12 years of my life in England, I cannot remember anyone celebrating Halloween Night. I think this celebration must have been imported from the U.S. quite recently.
Cheers.
Maxie.
Maxie Lindenberg, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 22:09:48 (UTC)
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Doug,
Thanks for the welcome, I have posted before, a couple of times to help with the BH street names, after one I got savaged by a pair of dead sheep (JOKE) who didn't realise I was joking when I "moaned" about the nasty slurs they were making about BH. My brother visits RSA on a regular basis and has stayed at the Fancourt. He is out there again next week for 6 weeks with a view to buying a property, oddly enough he is having a weekend at Fancourt. I wonder if he has more cash than he lets on!
Bye.
Mike Fancourt, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 20:34:46 (UTC)
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Peter
Correct.
Guido is the correct name of Guy Fawkes but he was not Italian
He was an English born soldier /mercenary who had fought overseas for many years acquiring extensive knowledge in the use of gunpowder. If he had not had this
knowledge he would never have been asked to join the group that were plotting to blow up Parliament although he was fully committed to their cause. He was a very minor player in the conspiracy and is only remembered because he was the person
caught red handed.
The other more important conspirators were also hunted down and executed.
Mike Slement, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 20:30:11 (UTC)
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I can’t remember anything funny happening on Guy Fawkes’ night when I was in Zambia. Even though there is the famous ditty:
Remember, remember, the Fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot….
Is there any more to this?
Anyway, as a result very few people forget my birthday – having a great sense of occasion I was born in London, England on the 5th of November – a very long while ago! I also have red hair. Unfortunately, I am not at all good at remembering even my most loved ones' birthdays?
One funny story about fireworks of a different kind that I remember was about going to a horse show in Lusaka in 1967.
Being a keen show jumper, I always wanted to go to the prestigious Lusaka Show, but my folks would never let me because I was too young and too naive to go alone. When I was 15 my folks finally relented as there was another young lady from the Polo Club going and she was a few years older than me, very sensible (and from a good family) and could act as chaperone. I think she was about 21.
So off we went to Lusaka and that night there was a midnight movie in town – it was called “Le Mans”, I think, and was about a 24 hour car race. The horsy fraternity in Lusaka invited us to go along, and we got a lift with two of the hottest (but married) riding blokes in Zambia. I had never been out this late in my life and I was terribly excited, but obviously not as excited as my erstwhile chaperone who promptly started smooching one these okes as soon as the lights went out. It was a long movie, and I was very uncomfortable about what was going on next to me, and the other bloke was sitting on the other side disturbingly close to me, but he was the perfect gentleman (he obviously knew how young I was! And to be honest, I was a little disappointed!). Anyway, when the movie finished the young men would be taking us back to our horsebox at the showground where we were camping and I would be able to relax and get my hormones back down to earth…
On emerging from the cinema we found the guys’ car had all the air taken out of the tyres. Obviously the wives had cottoned on to their husbands’ errant ways and had taken revenge. Unfortunately all the garages were closed, so replacing the air was no mean feat, but eventually they managed to break a lock on an air pump and hastily filled the tyres – by this time the two men in question were not so full of bravado and kept looking around nervously. I was terribly unhappy, both at the late hour and the predicament I had found myself in whilst in a strange town. The hormones were definitely changing gear and raw fear was kicking in.
At last we were off back to the showground – and then we had the ride of our lives because the wives drew up behind us in another car and started chasing us through the streets of Lusaka. Talk about a night of fast cars, fast men and women scorned – it was a nightmare! We screeched around Lusaka at break-neck speed with the wives chasing us and threatening us with really evil things – I was terrified! Eventually the boys managed to throw off the attentions of the wives and hurtled into the showground at sunrise where myself and the chaperone were almost thrown from the car while the two men sped away. Talk about being unceremoniously dumped!
I was mortified. I had to ride in the show later that day. I was tired, frightened and rather grubby after my jump from the car. I kept as low a profile as I could, but being a small community, everyone had heard of our adventures of the night. I fully expected one of the wives to ambush me and probably scratch my eyes out. Luckily I managed to both avoid the ladies and to win my classes and we drove back to wonderful, safe, quiet Kitwe that night – away from the wicked wives! Needless to say, the next show was at Mufulira a fortnight later and Dad was propping up the bar – and he heard some very interesting stories about his sweet, innocent little girl! I was never allowed to go to a show in Lusaka again!
If any of the wives are reading this – I was an innocent victim, but boy did I learn an important lesson that weekend – show jumping definitely is an adrenaline rush!
Ciao,
Jilly
Jill Aplin, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 20:20:21 (UTC)
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Keith,
See Imran Khan and his children got held by armed robbers in Pakistan yesterday. Took his mobile phone,money, credit cards etc. off him. Not having a good time is he??Now the Germans spell his name Kahn!
If women drivers are that bad why do buyers of used cars mainly look for cars with.... "one lady owner"?
Another thing that has come to my attention is that the law on ownership of residential properties in the UAE has changed or has it? Are foreign Nationals allowed to buy their own homes there? I know that in other Middle Eastern countries like Saudi Arabia..non-indigenous residents are not even allowed to run businesses on their own..one has to have a Saudi partner...even if he does put any effort/money into the business!
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 18:57:14 (UTC)
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Linda,
I thougth YOU would have known whether you were active or passive. You are passive in the following:
..."just let Fiona or I know" (you are me not I, in that context). I wouldn't have mentioned it except you did say:
I was going to take the mickey out of Ayub for his spelling of "Guy Fox" but decided I better get my facts straight before I did so.
Have a good reunion!!!!
Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 18:07:09 (UTC)
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Chinyerezi Chintu,
Different Party I think,
Isn't it called New Labor (no u)?
Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 17:51:40 (UTC)
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TYTHERINGTON TIYENDE ATTENDEES
Please tell this to Linda at the soiree - she may be in no fit condition to read . . . . . and it is very important !
Macbeth (by William Shakespeare) Act 2, Scene 3 before attending the above soiree. . . . . . . .
" . . . it provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance"
Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 17:30:05 (UTC)
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A lighter look at Christianity :
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS JEWISH
He went into his father's business
He lived at home until he was 33
He was sure his Mother was a virgin, and his Mother was sure he was God
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS IRISH
He never got married
He was always telling stories
He loved green pastures
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS PUERTO RICAN
His first name was Jesus
He was bilingual
He was always being harassed by the authorities
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS ITALIAN
He talked with his hands
He had wine with every meal
He worked in the building trades
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS BLACK
He called everybody "brother"
He liked Gospel
He couldn't get a fair trial
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS A CALIFORNIAN
He never cut his hair
He walked around barefoot
He started a new religion
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS A WOMAN
He had to feed a crowd, at a moments notice, when there was no food.
He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it.
Even dead, he had to get up because there was more work for him to do.
(Above definitions are credited to Joany Binder - whoever she is?)
Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 17:12:35 (UTC)
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I don't know about his second name, but his first name was Guido. He was Italian.
Peter Bromwich, Spain [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 15:27:40 (UTC)
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TYTHERINGTON TIYENDE ATTENDEES
This is a reminder to send your payment to Fiona Gayther if you are planning to come to the party.
There is still time to put your name on the list. Just let Fiona or I know so that we can include you in the count for ordering food. Anyone is welcome.
We are going to the pub on Friday night for drinks and a bite to eat if anyone comes in early. Johnny Green will be the entertainment for that night. He does an amazing impression of a 60's hippy. Just so you blokes know.. two drinks and I'm anybody's, but three drinks and you're wasting your time. The trick is knowing if I had a snort before I come to the pub...grin. Okaaaay, I'll be on my best behaviour. Glennie, since you are not coming to the party, you cannot respond to this :)
If anyone has any blast from the past music they want to bring to Fiona's, please feel free.
There is still time to run... You have been warned! :)
Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 14:44:50 (UTC)
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Johnny Green
Please contact me through the GNR with your phone number.
Thanks
Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 13:57:11 (UTC)
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Ayub
Tony Blair has never been a socialist. He is the leader of the Labour Party but he has never been a socialist. Michael Foot, Tony Benn maybe but never Tony Blair.
God knows where he came from to be in the Labour Party. He must have taken a wrong turn but not the left turn ( so to speak).
Chinyerezi Chintu, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 13:25:13 (UTC)
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I have heavily culled the following article for brevity. It appeared in one of yesterday's daily papers. Political correctness in most places wouldn't allow editors to publish this patronising material but here anything goes. Suggest that someone be stoned to death or criticise her driving. It's not just in letters to the editor but in main stream articles.
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If women were presumed to be inept behind the wheel in the past, the figures presented by Dubai Police now lend some weight to this claim. There are indications that women are involved in more accidents.
Men have long accused women of sending out 'mixed signals'. But in Dubai, traffic police have come up with the statistics to prove it.
Whereas the overall rate of traffic accidents in Dubai has decreased during the year 2001, the number of traffic accidents caused by women in particular has notably increased.
Last year, 97 accidents, that were fatal or resulted in serous injuries, out of 164 were the result of women drivers. Studies attribute the growing trend to a number of factors, including the use of mobile phones while driving, women's emancipation, and even hormonal fluctuations.
If she is not touching up her make up in the rear-view mirror, claim the naysayers, then she is gossiping on the mobile phone with a girlfriend.
Deputy Director of General Traffic Department, Dubai Police, commented: "I myself have noticed many women trying to take over other cars on the road. They have very bad habits while driving. Women tend to drive too fast, and without caution."
Commonly committed driving offences include speeding, jumping red lights, and making U-turns abruptly.
According to Lt. Col. Al Zafeen, most of the reckless drivers are UAE national women, followed by Indians. He pointed out that more and more local women are getting their driver's licenses now, in contrast to days bygone when most women stayed home, or were driven around by chauffeurs.
"This trend is caused by the gradual urbanisation of life in the UAE. In the past, there weren't so many women drivers. Fewer women stepped out of the house on their own. If they did go out, they had drivers. But now they are getting their own driver's licences.
"There are more women who work now. And they are under more pressure than they used to be. She may be facing problems, and she blows off steam when driving her car," he explained.
A study conducted by Dubai Police confirms that the increase in traffic accidents caused by women is directly linked to their emancipation. "We try to alert them about the perils of reckless driving, for their good and for the good of others," said Lt. Col. Al Zafeen.
"I prefer to see ladies driving in a more lady-like manner, instead of the aggressive style I see," lamented the official.
One unfortunate cause of accidents noted in the study made reference to harassment on the road. A significant percentage of the accidents caused by women were a result of women trying to flee men who tease or taunt them. "Harassment distracts women, and it makes them nervous and flustered. When they are in such a state, they tend to drive faster," the study concluded.
Another factor listed in the study involved biology. When women are undergoing pre-menstrual syndrome (PMS), they are prone to lose their temper faster, drive more recklessly, and get into accidents, the study suggested.
Additionally, the study makes mention of women's 'talkative nature'. The use of mobile phones while driving is prohibited by Dubai Police, and yet, many people - particularly women - continue to defy the law.
The study found that women are more frequently caught using their mobiles - whether actually conversing or sending SMS messages - while on the road.
Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 12:08:44 (UTC)
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wot a faux pas!
Happy fireworks everyone when you "let them off" This weekend is normally when Bishops, in Cape Town has a huge display and they have hundreds of folk with blankets on the cricket field & picnic baskets, toasting each other & enjoying the magnificent pyrotechnics. I LOVE FIREWORKS! Thank goodness we have such a gorgeous way of celebrating a silly man's folly!!! AND Viewing the Festival of Fire in Cape Town with the music provided by the local radio station, for those unable to get close to the waterfront orchestra. Is a real treat. We've sat up on the hill in front of the Holiday Inn watching the international competition of colour errupting in choreographed order, I was ecstatic. It always ends faaaaar tooo quickly for me.
Am I a lone nutter in this respect?
Jurina Lang, New Zealand [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 11:37:58 (UTC)
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Was he not a Fox??...Sly..wanted to blow up the Parliament!!!!! Oh well!
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 10:34:35 (UTC)
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Guy Fawkes (sp?)
All I remember about Guy Fawkes in Broken Hill was that it ALWAYS rained on November 5.....
Peter Dielissen, Canada [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 07:55:03 (UTC)
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The hazing Texan:
So, here is the question of the day. How is his last name spelled? Which of the following is correct:
Fox
Faulks
Fauks
Fawkes
Faulkes
Fauks
Fawks
Who gives a Fawkes
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 03:18:01 (UTC)
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Okay all you history buffs:
I was going to take the mickey out of Ayub for his spelling of "Guy Fox" but decided I better get my facts straight before I did so. Otherwise I face public ridicule and Lord knows I handle that well.. I looked up our illustrious "fiyah weks" fiend on the internet and was bemused to find numerous spellings of his last name.
So, here is the question of the day. How is his last name spelled? Which of the following is correct:
Fox
Faulks
Fauks
Fawkes
Faulkes
Fauks
Fawks
Fuc oops sorry
Any other spelling submitted
How about some funny stories involving fireworks incidents while growing up in Northern Rhodesia/Zambia?
Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 02:58:14 (UTC)
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Welcome Mike
I can't remember you posting before. At least we are getting some of the lurkers to bite!
I see you are a golfer. We have a very expensive golf estate in the Cape called Fancourt, which is the only other place I have heard your name.
Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 21:57:56 (UTC)
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Colin,
Scargill didn't take on the blessed Margaret, he got thousands of gullible miners to do it for him, as a result many of them end up bankrupt, losing their houses in some cases. King Arthur was not so stupid that he had to resort to soup kitchens for his meals, he still got paid during the strike and he still has his big house. A clever man our Arthur, getting people into a battle they had no hope of winning. Maggie ran rings round them, maybe she would have been a better commander for your army!
This is a bit tongue in cheek but true.
Mike Fancourt, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 21:22:52 (UTC)
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Doug,
Diwali is normally a 3 day festival which starts this year on, or around the 12th November. The Hindu New Year is the day after. On this day the Hindu Goddess of Wealth ,Lakshmi ,is supposed to visit houses and hopefully will furnish the occupants with wealth and prosperity in the following year.Yes, you are right..some may have started the celebrations early..although they could be celebrating Haloween or Guy Fox!! In cities like Leicester and places like Wembley in London the atmosphere is stunning with streets lit up and processions galore! Leicester becomes Mumbai for a few days.I know during my young days in Lusaka many celebrations took place at the Hindu Hall on Obote Rd (formerly Moffat St). Think the hall is still there.
Get a pair of ear plugs..and one set for the pets too! Here they will arrest anyone setting off fireworks after 11pm...if they can catch them!
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 20:57:03 (UTC)
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Bill,
You say a country's essential public services or strategic resources beneficiation should be protected against private business profiteering, for the benefit of all its citizens. Very well put. Privatization without adequate competition is a disaster.
I think the upcoming Bok tour to Britain, Ireland, and Argentina is going to provide some class rugby and I am sure the Boks are going to do well. The first match is in Wales, I believe?
Ayub
You know the old saying, ‘Lies, damn lies, and statistics.’ Everybody chooses the stats that best suit their own purpose. Whatever the figure is, it is too many.
Esther
I fell off my chair laughing at your posting and Keith’s reply. The worst I ever did in that line was to use spray and stay instead of underarm deodorant. It was like walking around with a roll of barbed wire under each arm. That was a bad day. I had such a babbelass that I chucked my dirty clothes into the toilet and started peeing in the clothesbasket. I was rewarded with a fat clap from my wife.
Chris
I think that the high oil price will accelerate the development of new energy sources such as the hydrogen cell. As they say every cloud has a silver lining.
Harshad
I was a bit premature in wishing you a happy Diwali. I see the celebration in Durban are only starting tomorrow and continuing until the 14th of November.
For non-Hindu’s Diwali is one of the most sacred days on the Hindu calendar and for many it marks the return home of Lord Rama after 14 years in exile. It commemorates his reclamation of his rightful place as heir to the throne. It is symbolic of the joy at the victory of light over darkness and is a time to promote peace, goodwill and tolerance. Please take note Chrisbhai.
It is also a time unfortunately of a great noise of fireworks which scares the sh*t out of domestic pets and keeps the SPCA busy.
Almal
An interesting new development has occurred in the Zim situation. In contrast to Mbeki’s policy of quiet diplomacy the Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) decided to visit their fellow unionists in Zimbabwe on a fact-finding tour. Cosatu with the ANC and the South African Communist Party (SACP) form the tripartite government of South Africa, so they carry a lot of influence. Mugabe refused them permission to enter Zim but they flew up anyway. They managed to meet with their associates in a Harari Hotel, when Mugabe’s police pitched up and ordered them to leave the country forthwith. Mugabe’s thugs dragged a SA woman unionist around by her hair and a man by his testicles. The Zim unionist immediately got a high court order stopping Mugabe from deporting them but this was ignored. The party was forcibly loaded onto a bus and driven to Beit Bridge border post and thrown out of Zim.
This has enraged Cosatu and embarrassed the ANC. The unionists and the SACP said this proves that Mugabe is a tyrant and a barbaric thug with no respect for the law and called on the SA to take action against him by closing the border and cutting off all supplies of electricity, fuel etc. This may be the beginning of the end for Mugs.
Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 20:04:33 (UTC)
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Robert,
On the whole they probably are. I was giving you examples of the problems consumers are facing and have been facing since some of these Utilities were privatised here in the UK You try contacting them on the phone..you might be have to spend a good hour before you even get thru..."you have 5 options..press 1 for sales..2 for billing inquiries...3 for this..and then the same over again..and then finally " you are in a queue..please wait..some crap music comes on..you wait...and you can finish your dinner whilst waiting.....
Effeciency is when you provide a good quality service at a reasonable price! Most here have failed the test..dismally! Safety on the railways have been compromised since privatisation. The subject will come up again when we have another rail disaster!
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 19:01:14 (UTC)
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Neil,
I know. Was referring to anyone who lives abroad and tries to raise funds..best for them to go visit Zambia and oversee their funding.
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 18:52:30 (UTC)
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A.I. Zumla,
State monopolies are monstrously inefficient. If they were as good or essential as you suppose, why is Fed-Ex or UPS so successful? Competition in Britain for many years was a no-no. As a car buff, I was nonplussed by the prices being asked for run of the mill automobiles in the London showrooms. It seemed they were half as much again as something I could buy in Switzerland. I realize taxes and duties were one thing but the idea of the American "deal" seemed unheard of.
Robert Huntley, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 18:44:07 (UTC)
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Esther - Ahah! Finally we understand where you're "coming" from.
Poor Baby . . . . . . . never mind, I've heard that men use it when they find it tough to please a woman.
By the way - did you ever encourage HIM to spray it on his tongue?
Just curious . . . .
Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 18:43:10 (UTC)
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Ayub
Reg lives in Luanshya, He's not merely a visitor.
Neil Smith, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 18:03:22 (UTC)
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Doug,
The UK Medical Journal, Lancet, in an article( out today) on research done by John Hopkins University (USA) and Iraqi health workers puts the figure of Iraqi deaths at 100,000; mainly the result of US bombing since the invasion. lancet only publishes articles if they have weight and substance in them. Jack Straw (having seen this report) is in a muddle and is trying to still clutch at straws!! The majority killed being women and children. Puts your figure of 10,000 in some sort of perspective.
Kevin,
Your assertion that very little money is sent back by Zambians living abroad is correct.Perhaps the Government needs to make those who Graduate from Zambian institutions at Government expense stay and work in Zambia for a stated period of time...although eventually the salaries offered abroad will prove too tempting. Even the UK Government is actively encouraging skilled Manpower to come here from the Third World..while at the same time (hypocritically) tries to show how concerned it is about poverty in the Third World! It is currently actively recruiting 6000 teachers from, would you believe it, Bangladesh!!!!!!
Keith,
Think Imran Khan would/could/should suffer the same fate with the number of maidens he has bowled over!!!
Professor "Freidman" Tamm writes "competition is good"!
Try telling that to UK residents who have to pay higher Gas and Electricity charges coupled with a lousy service! Any country that sells off its family silverware..will have little left in the future to rely on. Thatcher sold most of this silverware dirt cheap! Some people made a killing out of the share issues.
There will be a lot of fun once the predicted power cut syndrome hits UK households in the near future! Lets see how the various power companies fall over each other to try and tackle the problems this will bring!! The Post Office is going soon..not much left now to sell off save the air that we breathe..that will come too!
Talking about Political compasses..Blair is now more right-wing than any Prime Minister in Britain's history..he sure took a 360 degree turn since his inception as a Socialist PM some years back. I think he is in deep trouble at the next elections.His Presidential-style leadership is causing unrest in his own Party. He seems to think he is on some sort of "mission"....baffles me!
By the way BP has just announced record profits..while we pay high prices at the pumps! And we, with our North Sea Oil, should be self-sufficient!!
Glad someone is keeping an eye on the situation in Luanshya. There is nothing like going there and finding out for oneself.
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 17:47:30 (UTC)
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Kevin: Thanks for your input re-the figures on thecurrent cost and selling figures of copper in Zambia. Regarding the Coal-mining Industry: I started work in coal-mining in Scotland when I was 17 years old, went to Mining College and got my HNC when I was 22.The President of the Scottish Division of the NUM was Mr. Abe Moffat, a die-hard Communist, but also a very shrewd negotiator.He uncovered a large amount of anomalies in the price charged to big Industry against that of Household use.The word "Strike" was very rarely if ever used, by him or the other senior members of the Union, including John MacArthur. John Woods and Abe's brother John, who resigned his Communist Party membership over the Hungarian uprising in '56.
I lived and worked in Wakefield, West Yorkshire, in '79 prior to coming to the States. Even at that time, there were rumblings of a National strike, being initiated by "KIng" Arthur Scargill. It should also be noted that the strike in '80 was totally unofficial, so-much-so that Michael Magahey, the Scottish President, whom I knew personnaly from the old days, decried the action and as a result was attacked and badly beaten in Edinburgh. The statements being made at that time were of the order of, "We got rid of Heath, now it's Maggie Thatcher's turn." Anyone with half a brain would know that nothing is forever, this being the economic reason for closing unproductive collieries. There are still millions of tons of quality coal in Scotland alone, but no-one in their right mind will go near deep-mining again, based on the previous shenanigans of the National Union, which I'm told is passe. For anyone interested, I have a copy of "A History of the Scottish Coal Miners". I would be only too pleased to let anyone borrow this.
Ken Fernie, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 14:23:11 (UTC)
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Ken Fernie
The production costs at Bwana Mkubwa is around 99 US cents a kilo and $1.65 at KCM. World copper price yesterday was $2,863.00 a metric tonne.
Ayub
Not many of the old cabinet are still serving under the new administration.
I hear what you are saying about low wages but are we ever going to progress if people that we train become economic migrants.
Unlike the Sub Continent’s labour force that sends money back from the Middle East very little is send back here because most of those that go over make plans to settle where they are.
Government wages could be higher if the thieves were stopped from raiding the coffers. In today’s paper it has been reported that K40 billion (about $8million) was prevented from going out in a scam. How many of these go through taking money that could be used to better the lives of all the citizens.
Kevin Shone, Zambia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 09:05:07 (UTC)
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Hi Donald
Your "Beginners Guide to Southern Africa" really cracked me up, and brought back many words which I had completely forgotten about. One word which I do remember (and use far too frequently) is "shame". Another one to add to your list perhaps?
June
June Dobson, New Zealand [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 06:15:17 (UTC)
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I am more involved with the ex-Luanshya Website, and only visit the GNR occasionally. However, it was brought to my notice that there is a project involving Luanshya being discussed on this website, so I decided to find out if I could assist.
I visited the Helen Kaunda Memorial Library yesterday (incidentally it is only five houses from our house in Luanshya), and spoke to Miss Lennie Moonga the assistant librarian regarding the appeal for new chairs.
She informed me that Theresa Lungu had offered to raise money for the chairs, but that I should speak to Mr. Mulenga, the Director of Housing at the Luanshya Municipal council.
I eventually managed to talk to Mr. Mulenga, who informed me that quotations for chairs had been sent to Theresa Lungu, but so far he had not had any “feedback” from her.
I am more than willing, and it would be a pleasure, to assist with any charitable or humanitarian projects in Luanshya, as I have been doing for donors involved with the Da Gama Home (see ex-Luanshya website).
If needed (as I read US $ !000.00 has already been donated), I would be prepared to buy the chairs, deliver and present them to the Library. Then send you photos or the event together with an invoice and receipt by e-mail.
The Helen Kaunda Memorial Library is owned and run by the Luanshya Municipal Council, who should supply the chairs and be involved with all the repairs and maintenance of this establishment. There are chairs there at the moment, not the best, and odd (not matching), so I assume the new chairs will replace them.
One wonders if there are not more worthy projects in Luanshya, such as Da Gamma Home that needs more beds, and bedside cupboards for the children’s belongings.
Finally, I see an address of a box number in Luanshya were donations should be sent, with no name or contact number of the persons responsible here.
I would be obliged if you could give me these details as I would like to meet them, and offer my assistance.
Regards,
Reg Hughes.
Reginald Hughes, Zambia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 06:10:46 (UTC)
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Esther,
You don't expect anyone to swallow that do you?
Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 06:06:37 (UTC)
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Desi - Really funny story :))))
Here is one for you... true story - I swear to God.
Years and years and years ago...
I am a "tidy freak" and addicted to peppermint mouth spray.
My husband was out the office for a while (we worked together) and I decided it would be a good time to tidy his desk drawers.
Lucky me, in the top draw and right in front of me was a small spray can. I immediately put it in my mouth and sprayed - Chreeeeeryst it tasted aweful - so I read the label- it was to extend penis erection. You can imagine the state of my tongue.
Esther Pettersson, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 04:03:50 (UTC)
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Colin,
A very interesting synopsis (on the German economy). Thank you.
Arthur Scargill? Was he the rabid union leader for the pommy coal mines? And was it not him who is/was very anti royalty, offering to close buck house and offer the Queen a job at Woolworths? I suppose he might be a gutsy kind of a guy, but surely one could also point a finger at him for "over unionising" the pits and causing them to nearly collapse? I have to confess I have not paid much attention to the UK coal mining industry over the years and cannot particularly recall what Maggie did and did not do to it, but when it was Brit Coal, it ws very unhealthy (economically speaking)
As for the new energy source for the future, it seems that hydrogen fuel cell technology is very much in the forefront of R&D right now. As for oil? That will run out some day but just like the tree huggers dire predictions during the 1972/73 oil crisis (when they said it would run out in 20 years!), I have a gut feeling that there is plenty yet to be found, and it will continue being available for another 100 years at least. But I also feel that there is enough pressure on the Hydrogen folks to press on and perfect the new fuel cells for daily use. When that happens, I believe I could see the 1st world saying to the middle eastern oil producers - sorry maningi chaps, but henceforth we are offering you $10 per barrel - take it or leave it. Now would that put a cat amongst the pidgeons. Imagine the UBL's at that time - what would they say? ("We also have rights" probably!)
You see Captain Craig, you can run all kinds of Compass tests all day long, but at the end of the day it is the economics that rule. Our mukker in Vryheid can beef all he wants about the poor unemployed 30,000 former steel workers (could they be called "stealers"??) but should Iscor be taken back by govt, it will continue stumbling along, placing the labor overhead on the tax payers, until the whole house of cards collapses.
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 02:39:31 (UTC)
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KEITH : Coal, oil, gas, whats the difference? They are all carbon based forms of energy utilised in different centuries, as you point out, but none will see out this century if the latest forecast , which is that the world will consume 1660 billion tons of the oil equivalent of carbon energy in the 21st century , considering we only used only 500 billions tons in the 20th century. I assume this is taking the figure of present demand, as it would be impossible to forecast the usage of the new economic giants, China and India ( and others as yet un- identified in so young a century) The fact that this (Blair)government is commited to a "low carbon"economy and a 60% cut in carbon-dioxide emmisions by 2050 and at present the only renewables, wind, water, and biomass (which are the only ones I can think of ) provide the UK with only 8% of our energy at present
( most of it comes from Scotland), can only leave one source of energy in the future, Nuclear! CHRIS: Re Craigs Political/Social/Economical Theory; this has been already been played out and tested to be true in the years of 1939-45 by the BIS ( Bank of International Settlement) in Basle when the Bank of England, First National of New York, Bank of Italy and the Bank of France, under the Chairmanship of the American, Thomas MacKittrick, got together with war criminals, Puhl and Funk (not to mention Otto Ohlendorf who was eventually hanged at Nuremberg for his crimes) and used this Bank as a conduit for the Nazi gold and assets which Heydrichs's economical empire realised. (Cash, homes, businesses, shares, in fact everything the Jews in occupied Europe ever owned down to their clothes and gold teeth.) A major player in this unholy ecomical alliance was the the Reichsbank , still in existance today known as the Bundesbank. The wartime Governor of the Bank of England, Sir Montagu Norman and the Prime Minister, Chamberlain, even returned the Chech gold reserves , which had been taken out that country with Britsh help, to this source. A known fact today, although Chamberlain stood up in Parliament on May 16th, 1939 and said "It was not". They all, Americans, British, Italian and French and Gods knows who, sat throughout the war dividing the spoils in the name of economics. Within five short years, by 1950, Germany was on its feet again, albeit financied paradoxically by the SS and their spoils from Europe while the rest of Europe took years to recover, such is the power of economics over politics!
DOUG: Your mention of Arthur Scargill (( last coal mine to close) who had the courage to take on Thatcher))reminds me of the fact that he had more balls than five million Scots put together at that time, who did not take the inititive to get Independance when it was there for the asking. How I wish Arthur was head of our Army in '45, what a different outcome there would have been. (Or even in the seventies)
Colin Munro, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Friday, October 29, 2004 at 01:19:23 (UTC)
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Captain Craig,
I took that test. To no one's surprise, my red dot ended up in the middle of the upper right quadrant.
I will repeat my question. Who/where is this Political Compass? In looking at the questions about gay sex and child discipline, my guess is that the test was put together in the political science department of a strong left leaning liberal arts university. Most people have their own compass, and do not need to complete a test such as this in order to establish their direction. My guess too, is that someone other than the named names in the test placed them there, i.e. doubt if the Pope, Mandela, Saddam Hussein, Blair, Bush etc. actually took it. No no, it was more likely the collective wisdom of a handful of academic liberals who, knowing better than anyone else of course, agreed in a democratic process of elimination where each of the personalities would fall in the matrix.
I had a Prof at a university in Pomland who would have aptly labelled this test as a "Gosh" test. He would elaborate - "Gosh, isn't that interesting, but so bloody what?"
Gosh!
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 22:27:19 (UTC)
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Want to hear a funny (but true) story?
About 1960 my Dad worked at Bancroft mines on the Copperbelt. He had a guy that worked for him. His name was Size (as in what size shoe do you wear...) . Now, in their tradition a man was judged by the length of his beard, ( their hair didn't grow very fast so it took great effort and pride to gain a mean goatie!!). My Dad discovered my Mothers "nair" cream, wich he found very facinating so took it with him to work. I might just add here that he was a naughty bugger in his time.....! Him and Size were busy working when he told Size that he had some wonderful cream to make his beard grow longer overnight. Size excitedly took the cream home and rubbed it all over, not just his face but his head aswell. To his dismay he awoke the next morning like a newborn....bald and sans any facial hair. Not a nice story...but has a happy ending, for Size anyway. My Dad was working on one of the main pump lines from the mine and Size was in control of the main switch. He (Size) "accidently" turned on the line my Dad was working on and with the pressure the hose lifted him off the ground and deposited him at Sizes' feet. In hospital, one with a broken arm and the other with a bald face and head they looked at each other and didn't say a word. Size was very forgiving as what my Dad did to him was not forgivable but they had a certain rapport. They worked together for many years after that and when my Dad passed on Size stood in front of the crowds of mineworkers at my Dads funeral and lifted his hat..... only to reveal a very very bald head! But, he did it with pride.
There are real people in this world.... just wish we could find them all.
Desi
Desiree Van der Spuy, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 20:27:22 (UTC)
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Glen,
I don't think I recognised any name on that "Professional" list. Impressive? Well, maybe and maybe not. If Professor Tickey Tembo had endorsed it then perhaps I might give it some attention. Get my drift? There are some universtity professors who have lost all contact with planet earth.
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 20:15:37 (UTC)
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Craig
Thanks for the link to the Political Compass. I got -5.62 on the economic scale. This puts me slightly left of centre. On the social scale I get 0.31 that puts me slightly on the authoritarian side. The person nearest to my position was Pope Paul! If I hear anyone calling me Poopaul I will sentence him to 3 hail mary's and the rough end of a pineapple.
Mr. Bones
You are so fast with your labeling you could get a job at OK Bazaars putting the prices on the canned beans!
Why are you so unpatriotic to drive a Toyota? If you cannot afford a Cadillac, what is wrong with Dodge, Buick, Oldsmobile, Chevy etc.
I also drive a Toyota but to be patriotic here I would have to drive an oxwagon which is a bit slow, altho pretty good on fuel consumption. I don't think the oxwagon would be a solution for your USA fuel problems because the manure probably wouldn't meet the emission control standards.
Let us know your score on the Compass quiz.
Glen
You say 'it happens all over the world.' That's what I have been trying to tell ou bones all along but he is a very stubborn okie.
Bill Hunt
Talking about labeling, when I visited John Glen in 1969 after his move to Bulawayo, I learned something new about labeling. The supermarkets used to mark their prices with marker pens on the goods. When we went shopping the first thing John grabbed was a can of hair 'spray & stay' and a marker pen. He used the spray to remove the prices and the pen to replace them with what he thought was more fair to him. This cut down his cost of living much better. Once he nearly got caught at the till but talked his way out of it by saying it must have been old stock.
Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 18:31:45 (UTC)
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Chris - can't figure out why you think the address is important when you can obviously do a detailed check on the veracity of many of the individuals contributing to the "Professional Feedback" - some of whom are quite impressive - wouldn't you agree?
Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 18:17:56 (UTC)
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Doug
Privatisation
Ask any Californian about Enron & why the lights went out!.
Ask any Brit about the quality & safety of rail services since privatisation.
Make sure your engine is running, you'll have to leave in a great hurry!!
I agree with you , a country's essential public services or strategic resources beneficiation should be protected against private business profiteering, for the benefit of all
its citizens.
Forget economics & concentrate on the upcoming rugby tour to the home countries, We are going to give them a delux dondering!
Bill Hunt, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 18:13:16 (UTC)
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Philip
Just a quick note to tell you that I have finally got an ex Mufulira Wolseley 6/110, bought by a Mr Eksteen who worked at Muf West.
She was acquired on the 16th January 1968, and was left to his son in his will.
I found him by snooping around the local Austin/Wolseley expert in Natal, who informed me that the "best original Wolseley in Southern Africa" was right here on our doorstep, but not available, as the son would not sell her....Once the son found out about the Muf connection, the deal was concluded, and I took delivery on the 17th October...the car has, apart from a full service history, a DIARY, in which Mr Eksteen kept a note of everything ever done to her, in her entire 36000 miles up until my purchase!!
She is magnificent in every respect, and even has a Northern Rhodesian badge, as well as an NR Road Safety badge!. I have sent photos to Arthur... what a gem....and of course, you cannot get the smile off my face!
Paul Cowie, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 18:10:22 (UTC)
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Commander Craig, in summation:
This might explain Doug's apparent flip-flopping and why he might actually have more people nodding their heads when he writes than others. Your one-dimensional view of the spectrum is passé.
There is nothing "apparent" in the flip flopping. It is absolutely and demonstrably factual.
BTW, I did not take that test. Did you? I looked for the address of the outfit but could not find it. Is it a yankee domicile? Curious why they would want to conceal it.
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 17:42:13 (UTC)
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Whenever I think of politics and how the game is played I naturally tend to reference the southern countries of Africa. I do so from a country (for that is really what California represents as far as world economics is concerned) which plods along merrily doing silly stuff like electing Arnold Schwarzenegger as Governor.
But today (10/28/04) I feel that it really doesn’t matter where one lives, everyone is getting screwed by everyone else.
The latest rumor is that Russia was the country that had supplied most, if not all, of the missing 380 tons of “high explosives and ammunition” that Senator Kerry is now accusing Pres. Bush of “losing” before the invasion of Iraq.
Now just think about the ACTUAL farce being played on the world stage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . it goes like this . . . . . . . . .
Years and years ago, without the knowledge of the US, Russia and France cut a deal for oil with Hussein.
“We give you arms and you supply us vouchers for oil – simple. Hey, food for oil – well, that’s another story – that we’ll leave the US to tell.”
Everyone’s happy except that there’s a little shortfall in oil and poor Iraq ends up owing the Ruskies and the Frogs beaucoup bucks; like I mean BILLIONS baby! Anyway, the US, very nervous after 9/11, figure first they’ll zap UBL and his al Qaeda in Afghanistan. They go, whack a few heads (unfortunately not including UBL’s) and put their best efforts forward to install a “democratic” government. Meanwhile, the same lousy intelligence (which hadn’t figured out the back door deals that France and Russia had going on with Saddam) tell Georgie Bushy (#43) that the bum that his Dad (#41) let off the hook has WMD’s and he’d better finish off his Dad’s job.
Now here’s the kicker!
Imagine what happens when #43 phones up his buddies Alexander Putin and Jacques Chirac, ignorant of their “arrangements” with Saddam, and says “Hey, I’m going in to take care of business in Iraq so here’s a heads up. After all, we don’t really want any of your friends to get caught in the crossfire so you’d better tell them to leave.”
“Oops.” Say Alex and Jack – “we’ve got stockpiles of arms, ammo, you name it – a lot not yet paid for in oil or money. We can’t stop the invasion using votes in the UN – how embarrassing! When the yanks get to those cadres of goodies we’ve being supplying the Iraqi’s, mon Dieu, they’re going to add 2 + 2 and come up with 4! We’d better move all the incriminating new weapons off to Syria, Lebanon, Turkey . . . wherever . . . .before those US forces get there.”
The funny part? The above happened.
I guess what’s even funnier is when I read the GNR and Ndalima’s naivete prevents him from figuring out that this is exactly what happens when money is sent to Zambia. It is misappropriated and sent out of the country.
Is Ayub right?
Why worry about ZAMBIA – it happens all over the world . . . . . .
Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 15:21:01 (UTC)
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Doug/Ali,
I think the low crime environment is more to do with full employment than radical punishment. However, the letters in the otherwise high quality papers here are essential reading every day. You could make a book out of them. One correspondent was strongly suggesting that Jemima Khan, former wife of Pakistani cricket icon Imran Khan be stoned to death for her affair with Hugh Grant. Serious stuff.
Old fart? I don't think so - marginally older than me so I couldn't go along with that!
Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 06:58:20 (UTC)
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Chris,
I know that your mantra is, "Economics rules the world", but since you're fond of applying labels to everyone you might consider the two-dimensional political/social spectrum advanced by the people at The Political Compass. It's quite possible to have what have usually been considered left-wing views on economics while having what have usually been considered right-wing views on social issues, and vice-versa. This might explain Doug's apparent flip-flopping and why he might actually have more people nodding their heads when he writes than others. Your one-dimensional view of the spectrum is passé.
Craig Hartnett, Canada [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 04:10:20 (UTC)
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Ali
Remember Bubba? Well he says tuh tell yuh ma'am with respect thut iffn yuh wuz raised in Texas y'all woulda larned Texas geo-graphy and y'all woulda knowed thet Texas ain't no state it's the whole durned country. You jest ax a Texan, ma'am! Bubba wuz top o' his class and thet Pres'dint Bush was right smart too cuz he allus came second in class right smack dab after him not the width of a road kilt armadiller betwixt their grades. Yes ma'am!
Tina Magee, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 04:03:48 (UTC)
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The Vryheid closet communist suggests:
The sooner the Government renationalizes this the better. It is no use to privatize a government owned monopoly to a private monopoly.
Jislaaick Douglas, you sommer have me mightily confused. When we first started talking here, your views were full on liberal. Ag ja well no fine. At least we could talk. Then more recently you came out on the side of the arch conservatives, coming up with some very pragmatic conservative thinking. And then a complete 180 back to the far left. To suggest that the steel industry be re nationalised makes me shudder in my shorts. The only statement I agree with is about the monopoly factor. As I said earlier today, monopolies can be really bad news and without proper laws, rigidly enforced by the courts, they can upset the apple cart quite succesfully.
Now then, what to call you:
1- A closet conservative
2- A closet liberal
3- A closet Socialist/commie
4- All of the above
#4 would worry me a little because nobody knows where you stand, which allows you to duck and dive and then pop up elsewhere wearing a different uniform. A bit like an Italian war hero - who fights on the winning side!
Keep on trucking ou bees
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 03:52:59 (UTC)
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Craig ok.....so what state of the US would that really pertain to ?? Texas ?? ;O)
Ali Key, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 02:11:56 (UTC)
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Philip
Lovely spooky story. Sounds as though you scared your ghost just as much as it scared all of you.
Craig
Ted says Eh?
And sorry he'd talk longer but that's the only word he knows in Canadian ;-)
He's looking forward to a pint with you one of these days but he's a bit different in that he has enrolled himself in many advanced self-improvement courses in U.K. pubs over the years. The only one I remember not being too pretty to wake up to long long long ago was his introduction to Scrumpy in Devon.
Tina Magee, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 23:07:22 (UTC)
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Ali,
No, as a matter of fact, the Canadians came up with those warnings for the benefit of Americans who come to visit, and are not used to drinking beer that actually contains some alcohol.
Craig Hartnett, Canada [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 22:08:07 (UTC)
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Chris
You have misunderstood me. Iskor was semi privatised some years back and supplied South Africa with steel at a fair price on which they made a profit. Now Mittal has got control he has pushed the price up to what is called import parity. Now we pay 50% more for all steel and products using steel and 30,000 people have been thrown out of work. Everybody has lost except Mittal. What a crap system. The sooner the Government renationalizes this the better. It is no use to privatize a government owned monopoly to a private monopoly.
Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 21:44:10 (UTC)
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BEGINNERS GUIDE TO SOUTHEN AFRICA (SOUTH AFRICA)
BRAAI
What is a braai? It is the first thing you will be invited to when you
visit South Africa. A braai is a back yard barbecue and it will take place
whatever the weather. So you will have to go even if it’s raining like mad
and you have a hang of a cold. At a braai you will be introduced to a
substance known as Mielipap.
AG
“Ag” is one of the most useful Southern African words. Pronounced like the
“ach” in the German “achtung”, it can be used to start a reply when you are
asked a tricky question, as in “Ag, I don’t know”. Or a sense of
resignation: “Ag I’ll have some more pap then.” It can stand alone too as a
signal of irritation or of pleasure.
DONNER
A rude word, it comes from the Afrikaans “donder” (thunder). Pronounced
“dorner”, it means, “beat up”. Your rugby team can get donnered in a game,
or your boss can donner you if you do a lousy job.
EINA
Widely used by all language groups, this word, derived from Afrikaans,
means “ouch”. Pronounced “aynah”, you can shout it out in sympathy when
someone burns his fingers on a hot potato at a braai.
HEY
Often used at the end of a sentence to emphasise the Importance of what has
just been said, it can also stand alone as a question. Instead of saying
“excuse me?” or “pardon?” when you have not heard something directed at
you, you can say, “Hey?”
ISIT?
This is a great word in conversations. Derived from two words “is” and
“it”, it can be used when you have nothing to contribute if someone tells
you at the braai: “The Russians will succeed in their bid for capitalism
once they adopt a work ethic and respect for private ownership.” It is
appropriate to respond by saying “Isit?”
JAWELNOFINE
This is another conversation fallback word. Derived from the four words:
“yes”, “well”, “no” (q.v.) and “fine”, it means roughly “how about that.”
If your bank manager tells you your account is overdrawn, you can say with
confidence: “Jawelnofine”
JISLAAIK
Pronounced “Yis-like”, it is an expression of astonishment. For instance,
if someone told you that there are over a billion people in China, a
suitable comment would be: “Jislaaik, that’s a hang of a lot of people,
hay”
KLAP
Pronounced “klup” – an Afrikaans word meaning smack, whack or spank. If you
spend too much time at the flicks at exam time, you could end up catching a
sharp klap from your pa. In America and Europe, that is called child abuse.
In Southern Africa, it is called promoting education.
LEKKER
An Afrikaans word meaning nice, this word is now used by all language
groups to express approval. If you see someone of the opposite sex who is
good looking, you can exclaim “Lekkerrr!” while drawing out the last
syllable.
TACKIES
These are sneakers or running/jogging shoes. The word is also used to
describe automobile or truck tires. “Fat tackies” are big tires, as in
“Where did you get those lekker fat tackies on your Volksie (VW), hey?”
DOP
This word has two basic meanings, one good and one bad. First the good. A
dop is a drink, a cocktail, a sundowner, a noggin. If you are invited over
for a dop, be careful. It could be one or two sedate drinks or a blast,
depending on the company you have fallen in with.
Now the bad:
To dop is to fail. If you dropped Standard Two (Grade 4) more than once,
you probably won’t be reading this
SARMIE
This is a sandwich. For generations, school kids have graded sarmies during
lunch breaks. If you are sending your kids off to school in the morning,
don’t give them liver-polony sarmies. They are the toughest to trade.
BAKKIE
This word is pronounced “bucky” and it is a small truck or pick-up. Young
men can take their “cherrie” (girl friend) to the drive-in flicks in the
bakkie, but it is not always an appropriate form of transport because the
seats usually don’t recline and you may be forced to watch the film. This
is never the purpose of going to a drive-in flick.
HOWZIT
This is a universal S.A. greeting, and you will hear this word throughout
the land. It is often used with the word “No” as in this exchange: “No,
howzit?” “No, fine.
MRS BALL’S CHUTNEY”
We don’t know if the lady ever existed, but if she did she has earned a
place of honour in S.A. kitchen history. Chutney is, of course, of Indian
origin and is pickled fruit prepared with vineger, spices and sugar. S.
Africans are known to eat it with everything, including fried eggs.
NOW NOW
In much of the outside world, this is a comforting phrase: Now now, don’t
cry, I’ll take you to the bioscope (flicks) tomorrow.” But in S. Africa,
this phrase means a little sooner than soon: “I’ll clean my room now now,
Ma” It is a little more urgent than “just now” which means an indefinite
time in the future.
TUNE GRIEF
To be tuned grief is to be aggravated, harassed. Be selective about using
the term. For example, if your bank manager calls you in for an urgent chat
about your overdraft, you should avoid saying “Hey, listen. You’re tuning
me grief, man.” That would be unwise and could result in major tuning of
grief. There are variations. You could say about your boss: This oke is
turning me uphill.”
BOET
This is an Afrikaans word meaning “brother” which is shared by all language
groups. Pronounced “boot” as in “foot”, it it can be applied to a
non-brother.
For instance a father can call his son “boet” and friends can apply the
term to each other too. Sometimes the diminutive “boetie” is used. But
don’t use either term with someone you hardly know – it will be though
patronising.
PASOP
From the Afrikaans phrase meaning “watch Out”, this warning is used and
heeded by all language groups. As in “Your mother hasn’t had her morning
coffee yet Boet so pasop and stay out of her way.” Sometimes just the word
“posop” is enough without further explanation. Everyone knows it sets out a
line in the sand not to be crossed.
SKOP, SKIET EN DONER
Literally “kick, shoot and thunder” in Afrikaans, this phrase is used by
many English speakers to describe action movies or any activity which is
lively and somewhat primitive. Clint Eastwood is good for a skop, skiet en
donder flick.
VROT
Pronounced – “frot”. A wonderful word which means “rotten” or “putrid” in
Afrikaans, it is used all language groups to describe anything they really
don’t like. Most commonly it describes frut or vegetables whose shelf lives
have long expired, but a pair of takies worn a few times too often can be
termed vrot by unfortunate folk in the same room as the wearer. Also a
rugby player who misses important tackles can be said to have played a vrot
game – but not to his face because he won’t appreciate it. We once saw a
movie review with this headline: “Slick Flick, Vroy Plot.
GRAZE
In a country with a strong agricultural tradition, it is not surprising.
That farming words crop up (pun intended) in general conversation. Thus to
graze means to eat. If you are invited to a bioscope show (movies), you may
be asked “Do you want to catch a graze now now?”
CATCH A TAN
This is what you do when you lie on the beach pretending to study for your
matric exam. The Brits, who have their own odd phrases, say they are
getting “bronzed”. Nature has always been unkind to S.African school
children, providing beach and swimming pool weather just when they should
be swotting for the mid-summer finals. If you spend too much time catching
a tan at exam time, you could end up catching a sharp klap from your pa. In
America and Europe, that is called child abuse. In Southern Africa, it is
called promoting education.
ROCK UP
To rock up some place is to just sort of arrive. You don’t make an
appointment or tell anyone you are coming – you just rock up. Friends can
do that but you have to be selective about it. You can’t just rock up for a
job interview or at a five-star restaurant. You give them a tinkle first –
then you can rock up.
SCALE
To scale something is to steal it. A person who is “scaly” is not a nice, a
scumbag, and should be left off your Christmas party invitation
Donald Sydney, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 21:22:37 (UTC)
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The Vryheid oukie warns:
Chris
Competition is the last thing on Mittal’s mind. In RSA he has a monopoly and has pushed up the domestic steel price to match what it would cost an importer to buy from foreign steel mills plus the cost of transport. Stand by for your domestic steel price to rise sharply. This will bump up the cost of your new Cadillac.
Here you go answering your own question - local prices are bumped to match the imported stuff. What does that tell you about the efficiency of Iscor?? Sound mighty poor to me, but then we always knew that. Government cannot handle anything well (SAA, SAR, ISCOR etc etc) Give it to the private sector and they will fix it. Now and again, we run into a monopoly situation, which is not good either. Over here there are laws which in large part prevent the growth of monopolies, and Seorf Efrika would do well to follow suit.
I have always been facsinated by the ebbs and flows of the free market. Stand back and take a look sometime at an industry over here (Airlines, phone companies, technology companies etc.) Over an extended period, they come and go and any voids will always be filled by someone who has a "better mousetrap". Colin in Pom writes about the collapse of British Industry. True perhaps, but so what? As an example, BR was a vast failure and Maggie not only realised it, but dumped it. Is it better today? Better ask the locals but one thing is for sure, for as long as Pommies need to commute, there will be someone to provide transport. As long as Govt gets out of the way, it has every chance of working well.
BTW, I do not drive a Caddie. I drive a 2001 Toyota Camry and a 1997 Chevvie Astrovan for the business. Now there is a tough industry - how would you like to head up GM, or Ford?
Chris Tamm, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 20:02:38 (UTC)
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Colin
I hear the last coalmine in Yorkshire has finally closed so that is the final shot in the Arthur Scargill / Maggie Thatcher war. Remember Maggie used to be called “Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher” after she stopped the school kids free milk. Then luckily for her Argentina invaded the Falklands and Maggie regained her popularity by playing the patriotic card and sending the armed forces to evict the Argies. She must remember them in her prayers every night. Young Thatcher is still ducking and diving in Cape Town.
Keith
I think I must move to UAE. Sounds like paradise. Any jobs there for decrepit old farts whose only skill is blowing out the bullshit and playing FreeCell?
Ali
Sorry to hear about all the hassle with petty criminals. Our western justice system has gone completely overboard on the side of the bad guys and is now useless. Sharia law certainly has some attractions.
Chris
Competition is the last thing on Mittal’s mind. In RSA he has a monopoly and has pushed up the domestic steel price to match what it would cost an importer to buy from foreign steel mills plus the cost of transport. Stand by for your domestic steel price to rise sharply. This will bump up the cost of your new Cadillac.
Phil
Good story!
Our defense minister today gave a warning to all the South African National Defense Force members taking leave or resigning to do bodyguard work in Iraq. He mentioned that they were getting R60 to R70 thousand per month. Circa 10 to 12 thousand dollars or a years wages in a month. This will backfire, as even more people will rush for such money.
Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 18:43:19 (UTC)
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A Spooky Story
Hi all
Today I got closure on an incident that happened to three young ex. Northern Rhodesians about thirty seven years ago. Being close to Halloween I think it is appropriate.
To tell the tale I must first give you a little history of a place outside Pretoria called the Erasmus Castle.
East of Pretoria overlooking the Delmas road is a house built in 1903 by an eccentric farmer by the name of Jochemus Petrus Erasmus. The 27 000 morgan property is said to have been obtained by Erasmus's father in 1888 in exchange for a pair of velvet trousers and a salted horse.
Anyone who has ever seen the house will never forget it. It is a huge multi story mansion with tall evil looking towers reaching up into the sky. The Erasmus Castle as it became known was also a landmark and frequently marked on maps of the area.
The ghosts who are supposed to haunt the place are said to be the spirits of two or three of the Erasmus's children who were kept locked up in the main tower after it was found that they were suffering from leprosy.
It was around 1966 when Sid VanZyl, my girlfriend who had just arrived from Zambia and I had been to a late night drive-in show. As the drive-in was in the area of the "Haunted House" Sid and I decided to show the house to my girlfriend. (Nothing like stories of ghosts and haunted houses to get your girlfriend to sit real close to you.)
Sid and I tried to time our arrival at the house to be as close to midnight as possible, so taking a slow drive after the show we arrived at the turnoff to the house and started up the driveway. As the house is set a distance from the road and the approach being a potholed dirt track we had lots of time to sych each other up before getting there.
I was driving with my girlfriend sitting next to me with her hand on my leg. I was concertrating on driving as we approached the derelect old house when all of a sudden I had this excrucating pain from my inner thigh as my girlfrind dug her finger nails into my flesh.
My old Taunis 17M mk.1 had a six volt electrical system and not the brightest of lights but enough light to illuminate the veranda. Now I am not one to believe in ghosts and things like that, but I felt the hair start to rise on my head as we stared at the stoep. There on the veranda was this white apparition just standing there looking towards us. Well it didn't take much prompting to get my car in reverse and get out of there.
I have always wondered what it was we saw that night as the place was reported to be deserted.
Today I was reading a book about South Africa and came across an article about the same house and which I think explains what we saw. At least it makes me feel better.
"One particular night, a veld fire threatened the property and necessitated calling out the fire brigade. However, what the firemen didn't know was that a night watchman used to sleep on the stoep and that the man was hard of hearing and wore a long, old-fashioned white nightshirt. When the fire brigade arrived at the scene of the fire, the night watchman, disturbed suddenly from his sleep, lept up off his bed and ran around in panic on the veranda. As Eric Bolsman says, that indeed must have been a "ghostly" sight to remember!"
Cheers
Philip Pain, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 17:10:18 (UTC)
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Nsamwa Ndalima,
I read your posting with interest. You are trying to do a good deed. Before you try and request help from anyone please try and bear the following in mind:
1)People will not send cash donations without proof of a Charity being registered; proof of Bank account being in the Charity's name; list of names Trustees; statement of accounts etc.
2)As has been cited by other board members..the area of Charity is littered with misappropriation, scams and such like incidents not only in Africa, but in the Third World in general. Sadly we in the UK fell victim to this when we collected large amounts of money for earthquake victims in Gujarat, India a few years ago. Most of it landed in the pockets of Government officials in Maharashtra!! Anyone who misappropriates money destined for the poor should,in my opinion, be punished severely!
3) If you have had permission to build an Orphanage in Luanshya, please give details to members on this board. You also need to be in Zambia to oversee the project and keep a close scrutiny on its running. Sadly there are many crooks around.
4)The best way to help the needy in Zambia is to deliver the clothes/food items etc personally to them. You involve a middleman at your own risk! Never give hard cash to the poor..it often ends up in the tills of beer halls!
You have a tough task ahead..
Kevin,
I note with interest your concern for Zambia and also note that you cite instances of the economy improving under his new Government. I don't know if you will know the answer to this...I am curious to know how many Ministers in the current Cabinet also served in the Cabinet of Chiluba?I know my old pal Dipak did..any more?
Also, a friend of mine worked as a Gynaecologist at UTH for the past 15 years. Being a Zambian (of Indian extraction) he served the hospital well and had a lot of concern for the welfare of Zambians. His monthly pay after 15 years of service..$1000 a month! Last year a report came out (statement of accounts..Barclays bank Annual Report)) citing some Barclays Bank officials (all expatriate workers) were being paid yearly salaries in excess of £200,000 (two hundred thousand pounds!).Now do you blame this friend of mine... who has now decided to go abroad.
Ayub Ismail Zumla, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 14:24:48 (UTC)
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Linda if you are not winding me up size 8.
Johnny, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:22:04 (UTC)
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Hi Norma
Good to see you posting. You might not remember me but I was at school with your brother Gordon. I remember he once invited us to your house to see the pups your bitch had, that was the first time I met you. I was also friends with Ray he was going to join our band The Planets- myself, Kevin Mason, Stewart and Kerry Burns. I also met your mom when she came to Edinburgh to visit Mrs Thompson (Cate) Cathy Alexander’s mom. How are you all?
Sorry I don't know Christine Glasgow.
Cheers.
Nicky.
Nicky Kontou, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:18:24 (UTC)
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Linda, I heard that after you grew up it was like this:-
There was a little girl
Who had a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
When she was good
She was very, very good
But when she was bad
She was BETTER
Doug Gorton, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 12:07:27 (UTC)
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Craig are you the reason for all of these.???(giggles)
Canadian liquor manufacturers have accepted the Health Canada's suggestion that the following warning labels be placed immediately on all varieties of alcohol containers:
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really dying for you to telephone them at four in the morning.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause pregnancy.
WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may be a major factor in getting your ass kicked.
WARNING: the crumsumpten of alcohol may Mack you tink you kan tpye reel gode
Ali Key, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 10:46:40 (UTC)
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Keith
Maybe we in the west should bring in "chopping off the right hand " for thieves...believe you me they need it here in Perth at the moment, in the past week my car has been broken into twice and 2 days ago my Ringnecked Parrot was taken in broad daylight, cage and all.....oh and my two daughters bikes were stolen too..and to make matters worse there is continuous traffic so anything suspicious would be noted.....hahaha nah....bring in the axe I say.......
Ali Key, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ] Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 04:07:01 (UTC)
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A few random thoughts after reading the board.
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