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Posting on behalf of Helena Lane.

Helena has been involved with Basenjis for over 60 years.

She is seeking information about Sir Stewart Gore-Browne’s Basenjis. I know that there is some interest in these dogs among GNR members so can anyone help?

She also mentions the BBC Congo film recently re-shown here in the UK where she heard mention of Harold Gore-Browne and wonders, if this is not an error, what relation Harold is to Sir Stewart.

I will be pleased to forward any messages to Helena.

Ian

Ian Singer, Scotland [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 21:17:40 (UTC)

Keith (my brother)

A posting at last!!! Joburgers, stand by for a snowfall!!

Keep it up boet!

Cheers - Doug

Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 19:50:02 (UTC)

Hi All

nrzam.org.uk has been updated.

Created a new section for the Northern Rhodesia
Government Staff List for 1962. There are
approximately 5500 names in the list which is
provided by courtesy of the Northern Rhodesia
Reunion Association. The information is organised by Ministry and Department. The list will obviously be of
interest to those who were working for the
Government in 1962 and their descendants but it
also provides a fascinating window into how the
country was run in those days.

Regards Ian

Ian Singer, Scotland [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 19:49:50 (UTC)

Johnny & Tina
There is a reason that I dress like a tramp as Johnny says. It always helps when I plead poverty to the taxman. Also I don’t have to waste money hiring a scarecrow for my mealie patch!

Cheers - Doug

Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 19:47:51 (UTC)

Mwizenge
Re the Discovering Africa teacher’s curriculum site recommended by Peter the following appears.

“The Niger-Congo languages are popularly known as Bantu languages because Bantu is the common word in all the Niger-Congo language for “person” or “human being.” (The plural form is Muntu.)”

This is obviously wrong. Bantu is plural; muntu is singular. Maybe with you being in the education field USA could email a correction to them.

They say that the colonials used to call the indigenous by saying, “Bantu come here.”

I have heard “Iwe, bwerani kuno!” or ‘Wena, boya lapha!” or “Imwe, iseni kuno!” or “Wewe kuli hapa” or “Iwe, come here!” These all mean “You, come here!” None of these are very polite, but I have never heard anyone say, “Bantu come here.”

They then say that Luanshya is bigger than Mufulira. This is definitely wrong.

Further down they state that the economic decline of Zambia began in the late 80’s. It began in 1968 with Kaunda’s economic reforms.

There are 2 sides to every story and this site only portrays the bad side of colonialism. It doesn’t mention that, “the fine towns that are just like those in the US,” were built by the colonialists.

If this is what they are teaching the teachers no wonder the average American has a very poorly informed view of the rest of the world.

Cheers – Doug

Doug Grewar, South Africa [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 19:46:57 (UTC)

Tina,
I'm not so sure it is "hypothetically" scary - I think it is just plain scary . . . .
I'm sure you'd agree that (especially here in the US where we both live) any government related body that has something on the books which could result in some one saying "yes, legally that might be possible, but we wouldn't do that" it would wave a red flag to all the corrupted legal professionals wanting to make a fist full of dollars.
You do sum it up rather well though, namely, it would the ruling judge who would decide and he/she would either . . .
Follow the law . . . . . ?
or
Interpret the law’s "intent" . . . . ?

Glen Drake, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ] [ Web ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 15:54:44 (UTC)

Hi Linda,

No you didn't imagine it. The archive was as you described and when I tried to open December 2004 it was just a blank page. Now everything seems to be ok.

Mike Wilson, United Kingdom [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 15:44:09 (UTC)

Hi Keith:

I know I must have sounded quite dumb after being on this site for so many year, but I am pretty sure it did not look like that when I checked last night. 2004 was the last column on the right of the table and 2005 was not there yet. I guess I logged on between readjustments of the table.

Oh how I wish I was on the beach in Perth right now. It is bleddy freezing here, raining miserably with no end in sight.

A funny Valentine's story to share. I may have told this one last year. Sorry if it is repetition. In the States, everyone and their cat sends a card and you know who it is from. When I was growing up, there was a mystery to the card. Much more fun. One year, after I had already been sent packing from my house, I sent my dad a card and scrawled in it, "Love Thy Neighbour." Never gave it a thought until I dropped round their house later to see if there was any chocolate. The mail had remained unopened until I was there for some reason. My stepmother, a.k.a. Witchie Poo, opened the card, took one look at the words and blew a foofie valve. Before you could say, "Who's your Daddy?" she stormed off next door and had a terrible row with the poor unsuspecting lady who lived there. I got such a surprise, and needless to say was not about to own up that it was me. I slunk away as quick as I could, licking her prized chocolates from my fingers.

Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 13:52:22 (UTC)

Glen

Re. Govt. unemployment agency cuts benefits if Berlin woman refuses work as a prostitute.

Tried researching the background of your article. Here is the link for readers from the English article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml

Here for German and Afrikaans speakers is the original December 2004 this article this is based on. Here it is a hypothetical situation to illustrate how people might be forced to work at anything. ("Prostitution is legal work, people can lose their benefit if they turn down offered jobs, so what would happen if...?").

http://www.taz.de/pt/2004/12/18/a0077.nf/text

The article is in the Berlin newspaper "Tageszeitung". It claims that it "would be possible" to cut benefits for declining a job in prostitution, but doesn't cite any actual cases. Employment agencies are quoted saying "yes, legally that might be possible, but we wouldn't do that".

Hypothetically scary though. While it seems as though this would never be proposed, and if it were, never stand up in court, you never know what a ruling some judge might uphold. What a wild world.

Tina Magee, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 13:23:09 (UTC)

Linda,

On the site menu on the right hand side click on Message Board Archives and it will open up. 2004 and 2005 are on a lower section than earlier years and may be just off the screen as it first opens up.

Happy February!

Keith Binns, United Arab Emirates [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 12:36:41 (UTC)

Have just come back from a holiday in New Zealand, have not been there before, but it is highly recommended, cannot ever describe the incredible beauty of the islands, it is a magical place.Caught up with some ex Zambians as well. Now it is back to work and back to routine, not a nice thought.

While in New Zealand got talking to ex South Africans there, and was asked if I could perhaps make contact with an ex Zambian. Her name is Hillary Webster (Webster being the maiden name) from Ndola. Hillary apparently was at UCT in 1976 with a Merle Schickering. Hillary studied Library Science at UCT, had done a BA at the Liverpool Uni in the UK. Hillary and Merle were in residence at Tugwell Hall in UCT 1976. Merle seems to think that Hillary married a pilot, maybe called Peter.

I am hoping someone somewhere may know of her and could perhaps ask her to contact me.

And while still in January, would like to wish everybody a peaceful and happy 2005.

Denise

Denise Horton, Australia [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 02:27:40 (UTC)

Craig:

How does one view the archived January 2005 messages, please? I don't see 2005 in the archives.

Linda Hayes, United States [ Profile ] [ Contact ]
Tuesday, February 1, 2005 at 00:01:18 (UTC)

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1st of the Month, 2004 at 00:00:00 (GMT, aka UTC)

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